Once Upon A Winter Night - [Game Over]

[beastcharizard]

It bothers me that now when it seems we have our second scum on the line, beast is ignoring it/pushing for an alternative.

The guy just said someone was scum and you don't like it because I have voted yet?

Also, there is no reason not to pursue other ventures at this time either. We have a scum lynch great, we don't have to lynch them right this second, the game can still be played and people will still react to things.

@ooba:

Why are you defending me if you think I am scum? That makes no sense what so ever.

[beastcharizard]

Everyone claimed so I don't see what you're getting at?

And what do you even mean your name was revealed like wtf

I am confused but let me try to answer your question.

I am right behind you in line for succession therefore my name was told to everyone in the opening post. The mod wouldn't lie about my name ergo you chose 1 of the worst two targets.

Why your targets semi-still matter: Someone could have lied about their name. We know that there is a name on that list that isn't actually in the game therefore if the scum somehow new that name, like the tried to kill it last night, they could use it as a fake claim to avoid any such actions that could be used on them. You could find out if someone lied by targetting them.

[ooba]

@ooba:

Why are you defending me if you think I am scum? That makes no sense what so ever.

I don't wear blinkers on my scum suspects. Not everything that a suspect does is scummy.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 4.2

Honey Bee [3] - Kovara, Konowa, Katsuki
Katsuki [1] - beastcharizard

Not Voting [5]

- Honey Bee, ooba, Tammy, Nobody Special, notscience

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

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Deadline is January 20, 2015, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2015-01-20 13:00:00)

[Tammy]

I'm of the mind that ooba not assuming that the vote represented a guilty result is more likely town. He also seems to be continuing his predecessors practice of missing stuff.

It bothers me that now when it seems we have our second scum on the line, beast is ignoring it/pushing for an alternative.

Is nobody special ever going to show up?

Well in beast's defense, kovara's post wasn't exactly clear.

Even with 4 scum, Kovara has no reason to lie since it isn't LyLo with those numbers yet.
- That makes Konowa town for his HB pressure yesterday
- I still think we're looking at two more scum apart from HB. beast+Kats
- Although my reads don't support it (NS), an all scum-servant setup would be really clever modding

That's a good point.

I guess it seemed clear to me because I was the one who had the conversation with her about the neighbors being confirmed, so when she said she was wrong and voted HoneyBee, I figured she was referring to the conversation we had and took that to mean she investigated her.

And, I agree that she has no reason to lie because this isn't mylo but I've been town reading Kovara anyway. I also think that honeybee's post sounded like she as acknowledging the guilty.

[Tammy]

It bothers me that now when it seems we have our second scum on the line, beast is ignoring it/pushing for an alternative.

The guy just said someone was scum and you don't like it because I have voted yet?

Also, there is no reason not to pursue other ventures at this time either. We have a scum lynch great, we don't have to lynch them right this second, the game can still be played and people will still react to things.

@ooba:

Why are you defending me if you think I am scum? That makes no sense what so ever.

I didn't say anything about voting. In fact, if you read I didn't want a bunch of people to vote because I want to hear from Nobody Special before the day ends and I want to make sure he knows that he's watching Kovara.

It didn't have anything to do with voting, and I'm not saying anything about not pursuing other ventures, but if you can't see how it would look suspicious to me then I don't know what to tell you. But you did day one go against the antihero lynch, and then day two try to get us to lynch marquis - even though he had been poisoned and slated to die - while we were lynching antihero. And then when Kovara votes honeybee you ignore that to go after katsuki.

I don't care if you go after katsuki and push him, what I do care about is that you've been actively avoiding scum lynches/pushes (or at least known ones.)

[Tammy]

Is nobody special ever going to show up?

Nope. At least having NS in games always makes me look better by not being as useless of a lurker in comparison. = =b

But I mean seriously. He's on site. I've seen him posting on site and he just signed up for a game. Couldn't he at least check in to the game this game day so he could give us info on his role?

This is like mega lurker mafia.

[Katsuki]

I totally forgot about the inheritance.

[Katsuki]

Is nobody special ever going to show up?

Nope. At least having NS in games always makes me look better by not being as useless of a lurker in comparison. = =b

But I mean seriously. He's on site. I've seen him posting on site and he just signed up for a game. Couldn't he at least check in to the game this game day so he could give us info on his role?

This is like mega lurker mafia.

You've never played with NS before have you.

[Tammy]

No, I have but this is getting ridiculous even for him.

[Katsuki]

Conversely we could just lynch him today to spare us the headache of having to deal with his slot.

I used to have this tell for reading NS but I can't remember what it is.

[Tammy]

Well he told me once he lurks as town and plays as scum, but I've seen him lurk as scum and play as town so IDK.

[Katsuki]

He lurks regardless of alignment.There's something else about his meta that in the past used to differentiate between his town and scum play.

[ooba]

I also think that honeybee's post sounded like she as acknowledging the guilty.

Well no counter vote usually is a scum-tell than a town one.

Conversely we could just lynch him today to spare us the headache of having to deal with his slot.

Lynch the watcher who is probably town? Hmm..

[Katsuki]

Oh wonderful he's a watcher. Though, that's never stopped me, I lynch based on play.

[Tammy]

I also think that honeybee's post sounded like she as acknowledging the guilty.

Well no counter vote usually is a scum-tell than a town one.

Yeah, that's what I meant by that. It's been a really long week.

[Katsuki]

So lets have a day that doesnt reach deadline

[Nobody Special]

I sincerely apologize for my absence. I have been overwhelmed recently.

I also sincerely apologize for allowing my busy schedule to prevent me from submitting a night action.

My schedule has become more manageable now and yes, I do understand that I am watching Kovara tonight.

Having said all that, I need to go back and re-read about Honey bee, as I do not understand why she is scum. I also think two scum-watchers in a neighborhood of three is excessive, but this is Fake God, after all.

[Tammy]

Nobody Special. I don't really care if you say you haven't submitted any night actions. Just recognize right now that you are to watch Kovara tonight.

[Nobody Special]

Yes. Watching Kovara tonight.

[Nobody Special]

Okay. I read more carefully and see the result on HB.

Shall we lynch now, or are there other matters {ooba, beast} we should attend to?

[Nobody Special]

Anyone played with HB prior to this? Does she lurk as scum? She has the lowest post-count aside from an altslip. That includes all the dead people.

[Tammy]

I'd feel better if nobody special said he forgot to submit actions both nights than his schedule prevented him from it when I've seen him on site.

I don't really have much more to say about the day and considering this is mega lurk had game, I doubt anyone else does either, but I kind of want to wait and have nobody special confirm that he has placed a watch target on kovara before we lynch honey so he doesn't oops it.

[Katsuki]

Lynch honey, then lynch NS.

[Konowa]

Okay. I read more carefully and see the result on HB.

Shall we lynch now, or are there other matters {ooba, beast} we should attend to?

Why specifically these two?