League of Legends (Old)

FakeGod · Post Post #38800 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:31 pm

you guys are crazy

RUSTY is the best

animorpherv1 · Post Post #38801 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:55 pm

Aatrox: Mecha
Ahri: Challenger
Akali: Crimson
Alistar: Base
Amumu: Emumu
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Anivia: Blackfrost
Annie: Frostfire
Ashe: Amethyst
Azir: Base
Blitzcrank: iBlitzcrank
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Brand: Frostcore
Braum: El Tigre
Caitlyn: Base
Cass: Jade Fang
Cho: Gentleman
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Now,for some of my personal favourite champs:

Wukong - Underworld
Mordekaiser - Pentakill
Darius - Dunkmaster
Graves - Riot
Talon - Dragonblade
Draven - Primetime

Oman · Post Post #38802 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:56 pm

Schools back and I'm enjoying league again! Whoop whoop.

FakeGod · Post Post #38803 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:31 pm

Braum: Classic
Caitlyn: Classic
Cass: Classic I guess... they're all shitty
Cho: Gentleman

PJ. · Post Post #38804 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:40 pm

In post 38796, FakeGod wrote:How is Challenger Ahri worse than Pop Star????

wtfffff

Backing music, better dance. I like the color scheme of the orb and the music notes, I like the tails better.

Was gonna respond to the Ani's but I'm just gonna do the whole list so i don't have to keep coming back and responding guy by guy.

Panzerjager wrote:
Aatrox: Classic
ahri: Pop Star
akali: Blood moon
ali: Unchained
amu:Little Knight by a mile because Sad Robot has a super annoying voice filter on it and it forces me to mute my game.
Next 6
Anivia: Bird of Prey
Annie: Reverse
Ashe: Amethyst
Azir: I've never seen Azir
Blitzcrank: Definitely Not
Brand: Zombie

Braum: El tigre when it comes out, classic til then
Cait: Resistance
Cassie: Classic
Cho: Gentlemen
Corki: Dragonwing
Darius: Dunkmaster
Diana: Lunar
Mundo: Corporate
Draven: Gladiator
Elise: Classic
Eve: Safecracker
Ez: I like green hoodie but Pulsefire is obv best one.
Fiddle:Surprise Party
Fiora: Classic
Fizz: Fisherman
Galio: Classic
GP: Toy Soldier
Garen: Classic
Gnar: Dino
Gragas: Fnatic
Graves: Hired gun
Hecarim: Arcade
Heimerdinger: Snow
Irelia: frostblade
Janna: Foreast
J4: Lubu
Jax: Jaximus
Jayce: Classic
Jinx: Classic
Kallista: Classic
Karma: Traditional
Karthus: Classic
Kassadin: classic
Katarina: Classic
Kayle: Aether Wing
Kennen: Artic
Kha: Mecha
Kog: 4 way tie between firecracker, abyss, battlecast, and jurassic
LB: Mistletoe
Lee: Sagat
Leona: Pool Party
Liss: Classic
Lucian: Ronaldinho
Lulu: Dragon Trainer
Lux: Steel Legion
Malph: Obsidian
Malz: Djinn
Maokai: I like both holiday ones
Yi: Classic
MF: Mafia
Morde: OscarMeyerWeinerkaiser
Morg: La Llorona
Nami: Koi
Nasus: Infernal
Naut: Astronautilus
Nidalee: Classic
Noct: Classic
Nunu: Cookiemonster
Olaf: Classic
Ori: Winter Wonderland
Panth: Classic
Poppy: Lollypoppy
Quinn: Woad
Rammus: Bowser
Reksai: only seen regular
Renekton: Pool Party
Rengar: Classic
Riven: Classic is the best but Battlebunny I think was the first community suggested skin that made the game, so there's that
Rumble: Regular
Ryze: Dark Crystal
Sej: Bear Calvary
Shaco: Korean
Shen: Scorp/subzero
Shyvana: Classic
Singed: Augmented
Sion: Barbarian
Sivir: Bandit
Skarner: Classic
Sona: Arcade
Soraka: Classic
Swain: Tyrant
Syndra: Atlantean
Talon: Dragon Blade
Taric: New age
Teemo: Super
Thresh: Classic
Tristana: Haven't seen the vu
Trundle: Lil Slugger by a mile
Trynd: Soul Calibur
TF: Classic
Twitch: Sly Cooper
Udyr: SGU
Urgot: Battlecast
Varus: Arclight
Vayne: Heartbreaker
Veiger: Superb Villain - Bad santa is really close
Velkoz: Battlecast
Vi: Neon Strike
Viktor: None, bad design, delete viktor
Vlad: Soulstealer
Voli: Captain
WW: big bad
Wu: Classic
Xerath: Classic
Xin: Cao Cao
Yasuo: Classic
Yorick: Classic
Zac: Green
Zed: Classic
Ziggs: pool Party, snow day is good too
Zilean: Classic
Zyra: Classic

animorpherv1 · Post Post #38805 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:33 am

I'm convinced that Zed has no weaknessess aside from QSS/Zhonya's and cannot lose games and matches.

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #38806 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:49 am

In post 38805, animorpherv1 wrote:I'm convinced that Zed has no weaknessess aside from QSS/Zhonya's and cannot lose games and matches.

Hecarim mid.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #38807 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:54 am

In post 38806, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 38805, animorpherv1 wrote:I'm convinced that Zed has no weaknessess aside from QSS/Zhonya's and cannot lose games and matches.

Hecarim mid.

I don't own Hecarim, and that wouldn't help even if I did.

I don't feel like Zed has counterplay because all he does is poke you until you're at about 75% hp then all-ins you and kills you. You can't beat him in anall-in with ANYTHING.

His earlygame is complete bullshit, his midgame is bullshit, his towerkilling is bullshit, his assassinating is bullshit, his waveclear is bullshit, etc. And to top it off it's impossible to cc him because shadows need to be on a 1 minute cooldown at least with the bonus AD it has.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #38808 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:58 am

Diana mid used to wreck Zed

DeathNote · Post Post #38809 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:00 am

I remember beating him with Malz a lot but I don't recommend him as a straight counter. I just was tanky enough to take the poke and had enough poke myself to make my all in more threatening.

Plus I was pretty quick about putting my aoe down along with ult if he jumped on me.

theelkspeaks · Post Post #38810 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:01 am

Is this RoA Malz, Liandry's -> Rylai's Malz, or something else altogether?

KaleiÐoscøpe · Post Post #38811 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:02 am

You can deny zed kills, but you cant really counter him. Just make sure he cant peace lane and he will fall off late

FakeGod · Post Post #38812 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:09 am

Liss does well against Zed in my experience

Iecerint · Post Post #38813 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:11 am

In post 38807, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't feel like Zed has counterplay because all he does is poke you until you're at about 75% hp then all-ins you and kills you. You can't beat him in anall-in with ANYTHING.

His earlygame is complete bullshit, his midgame is bullshit, his towerkilling is bullshit, his assassinating is bullshit, his waveclear is bullshit, etc. And to top it off it's impossible to cc him because shadows need to be on a 1 minute cooldown at least with the bonus AD it has.

I think Vlad is really strong into Zed. You can sustain through or match his harass, his range is short enough that he can't zone you out of cs very well, and you can press W to ruin his ult. If he pushes and roams, you can counter-push really quickly. If he's not ahead by level 7, you start to outscale. Playing Vlad into AD also lets you build an early Zhonya's comfortably, which is both what Vlad wants anyway for another round or two of spells each team fight (if you also rush 40% CDR) and yet-another way to ruin his ult.

dramonic · Post Post #38814 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:24 am

Ahri works, Malz works, Talon works, Malph works, Annie works, Viktor works, Fizz works, Leblanc works, Syndra works, Vlad works...
Akali, Lissandra and Lee probably work as well, but I dont play them much.

Anyone who can reliably disengage or counter-engage him can do fine and make it a skill matchup.

Nikanor · Post Post #38815 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:32 am

Annie works well against Zed. Annie works well against everything.
Her shield allows you to avoid a lot of his damage, and if you build RoA first he'll never be able to burst you. Just make sure you don't try to stun him with Q or he'll dodge it with his ult and you'll be fucked.

Iecerint · Post Post #38816 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:35 am

Regarding counterplay, in addition to building whatever item is appropriate to counter his ult (Zhonya/QSS for AP/AD), you can dodge his non-ult abilities.

I think if I had a better sense of his cooldowns I could harass him more in lane and do even better, but I feel like against a typical Zed I can basically never take advantage of his weakness windows as Vlad and still go even and then outscale.

The main issue is always if he pushes and roams, everyone ignores the missing ping, and he gets a double kill in botlane.

dramonic · Post Post #38817 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:37 am

In post 38815, Nikanor wrote:Annie works well against Zed. Annie works well against everything.
Her shield allows you to avoid a lot of his damage, and if you build RoA first he'll never be able to burst you. Just make sure you don't try to stun him with Q or he'll dodge it with his ult and you'll be fucked.

I feel like as Annie you should just keep your stun up and he'll never engage.

Saki · Post Post #38818 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:44 am

Uhhh

Kayle strongest Zed counter

well, she sucks as a caster now so that's probably a problem

Saki · Post Post #38819 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:45 am

tbh I've never really had a problem vs Zed even as something like Lux b/c there's only so much he can do

like

as long as you aren't completely stupid and constantly let him w-e-q over and over again there's pretty much no reason for you to lose health vs Zed as a ranged champ

Saki · Post Post #38820 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:57 am

In post 38807, animorpherv1 wrote:His earlygame is complete bullshit, his midgame is bullshit, his towerkilling is bullshit, his assassinating is bullshit, his waveclear is bullshit, etc. And to top it off it's impossible to cc him because shadows need to be on a 1 minute cooldown at least with the bonus AD it has.

he has nothing but Q at level 1
he has nothing but W and Q at level 2
he has too little damage with rank 1 E at level 3
He has to wait until level 4 to reliably try to kill anyone

His earlygame is only less horrible than say, Talon's in mid

Living Shadow has a 18s CD at rank 1, which will stay that way until level 13 or so. Gonna be around +-14s with CDR?
It lasts 4s. You have a minimum of 10 seconds of no W when you see that shadow disappear.
That's 4 seconds out of 14 that he can effectively pose a threat to someone standing out of melee range.

>_>

Nikanor · Post Post #38821 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:00 am

In post 38817, dramonic wrote:
In post 38815, Nikanor wrote:Annie works well against Zed. Annie works well against everything.
Her shield allows you to avoid a lot of his damage, and if you build RoA first he'll never be able to burst you. Just make sure you don't try to stun him with Q or he'll dodge it with his ult and you'll be fucked.

I feel like as Annie you should just keep your stun up and he'll never engage.

Sure, but that's boring.

dramonic · Post Post #38822 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:04 am

In post 38820, Saki wrote:His earlygame is only less horrible than say, Talon's in mid

Talon's early game is not amazing, but it's hardly horrible.
If you know how to manage your engages, slow and gap-closer at level 2 is strong.

KaleiÐoscøpe · Post Post #38823 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:17 am

Pft, I think even Rammus or Riven mid will do well against him, but there arent really 'counters' that shut him down

zoraster · Post Post #38824 (ISO) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:59 am

The reset happens tomorrow. When you've been placed, please update the spreadsheet (if you're active, it doesn't hurt to put "unranked" because the "active" list is based on who enters a value in that cell