(Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia 2 [Over]

[PeregrineV]

Kingoncelt, Arcangel9, Ankamius, ProHawk, and guille2015 have been poked. PeregrineV has been prodded.

Received. Have work to catch up on first, so tonight or tomorrow.

[mastin2]

Here is my one and only post for today. Sorry for how busy I've been.

Edit:

But Voided, don't think that means I'm not gonna leave something in it! Have a VC.

VC 46

:

Toon Fighter - 9 (Frightened inmate number3, guille2015, ArcAngel9, Bulbazak, Ankamius, farside22, Titus, Fluminator, BlizZard)

shos - 6 (theelkspeaks, Klingoncelt, ProHawk, Jackel98, Wisdom, Toon Fighter)

Jackel98 - 4 (Muffin, EddieFenix, alivechihiro, DrippingGoofBall)
Pirate Ika - 2 (shos, Pine)
Klingoncelt - 1 (eyestott)
alivechihiro - 1 (PeregrineV)
Fluminator - 1 (Alchemist21)

Not Voting: 3 (Awesome, Nobody Special, Pirate Ika)

With 27 alive, it's 14 to lynch.

Day One's deadline is Thursday, January 29th, @ 4:15 PM PST.
Toon Fighter for the lynch.

[Voidedmafia]

Here is my one and only post for today. Sorry for how busy I've been.

*grumble grumble* more work for me. *grumble*

<<< Sorry.

Everyone can give a round of applause, though, to Voided for being an awesome co-/backup mod and filling in for me during my rough times. Seriously, he's keeping the game afloat. <3 >>>

[guille2015]

Poke recieved. Will try to catch up as soon as possible.

[Muffin]

so i am confused as to where the scumread of dgb and jackal come from if he never opened a single iso. I can't get him to quantify a single read and I am trying to be patient but I am running out of it cos he keeps promising he will do this but then he never does and it just looks like he is stalling to me. it just doesn't look like he is trying to sort the game out.

FWIW we were discussing the possibility of DGBscum a while ago

I don't like the jackal cw that sprang up, especially after this:

Maybe contradicted by your comments, but not really by the posts. Also, why is Titus defending my posts, when I'm here doing it?

to me this post screams town cos scum usually love it when other players defend them.

I have also completely lost my eyesore townread. <----- another 1 who doesn't look like he is trying to sort the game out.

... and shos mentioned the possibility of Jackelscum as early as the 19th.

Also I don't read that Jackel quote as town. FWIW I have made pretty much the same "why is so-and-so defending me" statement more than once as scum, and I've also seen it come from other players as scum numerous times.

[shos]

Spoiler: snipped.

You did make me laugh loudly, though xD
Now please chill. being mislynched happens, lol. you're nowhere near that, which is good, it gives me time to reevaluate.

Now the hood should really be left alone. At first with all the fascists and communists thing I thought this was multiball, which would make sense for 2town1scum1scum hood, but I doubt that is the case. if there's any scum on the hood, I'd bet it is FIN3 but only out of elimination. So in general - not a good place to look at for scums on D1.

On sunday I give my last paper of the semester

so I'ma read up TF and DGB andjackal and you and dunno

, any scumdidate. but for now I must work.


*zen mode initiate*

says he is gonna read jackal's and dgb's isos mebbe us

For anyone who doesn't know the reference

I should be getting a skype call and off to sleep,

so till then I'm ISOing

says he is isoing

so the skype call came in and I didn't even manage to open a single ISO not to mention read it, lol.

mollie and ika - start signing your posts -_- and here, I'll paraphrase FIN3 for you

says he never got a chance to but says this:

Sure.

VOTE: Jackel98

also dat bus

yeah.
in 2 am before a long day, quoting a post that was just posted with a 3-word addition is a titbit easier than starting to ISO everyone.

but I'll start my shit now.

[Pirate Ika]

PSA: i (ika) am heading to work so if someone starts posting here in the next 8-9ish hrs it is most likely mollie posting.

[shos]

Alright so my first one to ISO is going to be theelkspeaks, because I remember him voting badly and he has the smallest amount of posts.

Dino did not pick up his PM, so it's an easy start.

k so elk starts with a reference to 771 by klingon. in order to get the context I read the entire page; people vote klingon, he responds with 'sure, lynch me'. but then Jackal posts the horrible 769 in which he votes FIN3 just because he dislikes him, regardless of alignment. Klingon rageposts or is pretending to. regardless, elk's post is fine. he also says he suspects me for that <b> thing. both accusations in this post are legitimate.

rest of his posts are actually pretty ok. Guess this slot gets a real

townread

, then.

extra:

while munching through this, I noticed that it was actually FIN3 who outted the neighbourhood inthread. without discussing it with us first, and without any warning. interesting.

[Frightened inmate number3]

after certain neighborhood revelations we are no longer convinced shos is anywhere close to confirmed town

we do still believe shos is not the right lynch today and that toon or pirate is

I'm not sure any of us except maybe Bulba have been treating it as a masonry?

when we first revealed it to get people off of shos we said "shos is almost confirmed town" to imply it could be a certain thing and not the thing it actually is

[Frightened inmate number3]

that way shos could avoid the lynch with minimal information release
but as you know recent events there were more revealing in a bad way

[shos]

So ISOing Toon Fighter.

His first 12 posts in the ISO look very good, I have to say. I've no idea yet what the case on him was; I noticed in a quote that DGB randomly voted him; but in general, I see no case, no reason, and actually all town thought process, legitimate thoughts on the game, etc...reading ghis ISO just makes me want to lynch Klingon, lol.

Can anyone wanting a TF lynch tell me what the case on him is about?

if both leading wagons are on town, we better lynch jackal, I think.
post 1530 is actually a good post. even if it's wrong, the reasons for suspecting me are legit, and the thought that FIN3 might actually be a jester is VERY interesting. That can work well if there's only one scumteam, and then the neighbourhood can have 1 scum 1 jest 2 town, or the more likely option of 1jest-3town. Still doubt it's 3-town-1-scum.

post 1924 is ubertown and the claim is HIGHLY unlikely to come from scum, I think. too elaborate and specific. This slot is town, the way I see it.


TLDR:
I think TF is town.

Can anyone wanting a TF lynch tell me what the case on him is about?

[shos]

after certain neighborhood revelations we are no longer convinced shos is anywhere close to confirmed town

we do still believe shos is not the right lynch today and that toon or pirate is

I'm not sure any of us except maybe Bulba have been treating it as a masonry?

when we first revealed it to get people off of shos we said "shos is almost confirmed town" to imply it could be a certain thing and not the thing it actually is

that way shos could avoid the lynch with minimal information release
but as you know recent events there were more revealing in a bad way

actually that is true. shit. :/

[shos]

DGB TIME

VOTE: ToonFighter

I think Klingon is town, and I'm null on ToonFighter.

why did you vote TF then and not one of your scumreads, which exist, unless all five of them evaporated between your 5 posts till there.?

holy fuck that is an handfull of ISO one liners with nothing in there

this is such a worthy vote.

[shos]

VOTE: Jackel
mucho gusta este mas de los otros

[Muffin]

that way shos could avoid the lynch with minimal information release
but as you know recent events there were more revealing in a bad way

Ah yes, my mistake.

[Frightened inmate number3]

your responses both squick me

[Frightened inmate number3]

me too

[Bulbazak]

Bulb, your post number/count in your neighborhood?

14

Thoughts on me now that you are caught up fully?

Well, given that my going off on you was probably based on a misunderstanding, conflicted. I still don't trust you, but it would be best to sort all of that out more d2 on. Hopefully someone cops you by d3.

Unvote
Vote Pirate Ika

Willing to give Shos' hood the benefit of the doubt for now

Dat rolefishing from pirate ika

This is the second opportunistic vote I've seen from you. What town cred you earned from the miller claim is now gone.

Also regarding PTs and QTs, as I said, mastin may be using both. and it makes it even stronger when I called titus for the <> brackets while knowing that I have a PT.

Shos, stop. You're wrong. Don't go down this road.

When you guys claimed did FIN3 say anything or say why they would not claim?

FIN3 didn't say anything about the mass claims, but I don't think she needed to, as we've pretty much figured her out anyway.

FIN3 actually did not react to almost anything; he's posted 6 one liners in the entire game there.

So why is there a town read on him?

Because what she's posted in the game thread is essentially more useful in determining alignment.

FIN3 actually did not react to almost anything; he's posted 6 one liners in the entire game there.

So why is there a town read on him?

Apparently we're supposed to think that FIN3 is a mysterious PR.

VOTE: shos

Stop being spiteful and get off of Shos.

I don't think TF's claim should give him a pass. For one, the role being compulsive and odd night only is strange, and while not out of the realm of possibility for this game, still very unlikely. I think it falls more in line with a scum fake claim, probably covering for a roleblocker of some sort. Most importantly, though, TF has not been playing with such a role in mind. If he was town with that role, I'd expect to see some reflection of that in his play. There has been none. He's been just trying to get a lynch, not hunting for scum. There should be no excuse of him just wanting to lynch to use his role, since he a.) has no control over it and b.) would most likely be negative utility given the likely role madness. He should be playing with an eye toward rooting out scum for the future, and he hasn't done that at all.

ive played with jackel-scum and this aint it

What does Jackel-scum look like?

Still can't figure out what the case is on TF, too lazy to go archive diving

He's going for the short term lynch, rather than trying to figure out who is scum. Look back in his ISO, and you will find zero scumhunting. All of his attacks have been based on non-issues or have been on the popular wagons with little backing. He'll then express some doubt about those wagons, but he will ride them anyway. When he does make cases on players, it's only on popular wagons, and the case are highly contrived and over justified. It's like he's trying too hard to appear like he deserves to be on that wagon. His claim is also disturbing, as it seems as if he's trying to use it as a "get out of lynch free" card, rather than it being a role he received and played up to. In fact, I'd be shocked if you were able to find any evidence of him being a compulsive odd-night JK prior to his claim. He doesn't play like such a role. He doesn't play like town trying to figure out who scum is. Instead, his play points toward scum who is trying to coast through the game, stay on the easy wagons, and try not to get on the stronger players' bad sides.

if you guys are all townreading each other then why are none of you working together?

To be fair, I've been in catch up mode a lot, and it's hard to work together on that level when I have no idea what is going on.

Okay, so.

I hate the idea of a 4p neighborhood, and I doubt very much they're all town.

I don't like FI3s attitude. I also don't care for Muffin's attitude.

shos is being less attitudey, but I cannot read him at all.

I can't recall the fourth neighbor.

I don't want to vote TF at this moment.

Ok, so I'm on the NS-scum bandwagon now.

toonfighter drippinggumball pirates bulba may very well be scum
kill them

3 of those names are town. 1 is scum.

he usually is a prolific poster from my experiences with him.

Since when?

Also, I didn't like that post. It seems like you were trying too hard to justify your position on Shos.

I do want bulba to talk about fin3 read more.
With all the neighbor claiming I find him th most interesting.

I don't know what more there is to say. I'm townreading her mainly from her being in the neighborhood and her play in the game. The first part has been explained. The second I will not explain.

@Mollie: Quit being so hard headed. The not listening to Titus thing "just because" is stupid, especially since she's right on almost everything except Jackel. You're also starting to go all Chain of Command on Shos. Stop that.

The Jackel wagon is nice and all, but TF is the lynch for today. Get back on him!

[Wisdom]

Nope, shos is the lynch

[Bulbazak]

He's not. Quit being dumb. And quit avoiding explaining what Jackel-scum looks like.

[theelkspeaks]

He's not. Quit being dumb. And quit avoiding explaining what Jackel-scum looks like.

Tell us why shos is town if you don't think he's the lynch. We've heard your preferred candidate, but I at least still see no good arguments for shos being town.

[Wisdom]

He's not. Quit being dumb. And quit avoiding explaining what Jackel-scum looks like.

Jackel-scum is more shy, more passive, more derpy, more "don't know wtf to say". I didn't get such an impression here.

[Muffin]

People change from game to game. Particularly new players. What boils down to basically a tone argument isn't really going to sway my opinion on Jackel based on what I see in his play so far.

There's a great thread in MD right now about the perils of relying on meta.

[ArcAngel9]

Please stop pulling TF wagon back... Let that lynch happen!!!!

PEDIT: this day dragged enough.. Let it go. please

[Muffin]

Please stop pulling TF wagon back... Let that lynch happen!!!!

PEDIT: this day dragged enough.. Let it go. please

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