NY 179: Cute and Fluffy Mafia (Town Win)

[Kthxbye]

ABR and ika. You BOTH have been around long enough to know how to play this game. Start doing it or I'm sure I won't have much trouble getting you policy lynched or force replaced for playing against your wincon no matter what alignment you are.

"Play to win the game." It's a rule. Abide by it.

You are trolling (especially ABR) and if you're town, you're going to end up hurting us by doing so. If you're scum though, by all means continue and be lynched for it.

[ika]

eh ran an iso and i dont see anything that resembles stong town. he seems disintrested about the game in general.

SC why do you feel disintrested?

pedit: VOTE: kthxbye

there is that better?

[Kthxbye]

No, it's stupid and trolly.....as I already pointed out in 1075

[The Dream Weaver]

VoteCount 2.8

Albert B. Rampage (0):

d3x (0):

dragonspawn (1):

TellTaleHeart

Dripping Goofball (6):

randomidget, Kid A, TheDudeAbides, Flubbernugget, StrangerCoug, Albert B. Rampage

Flubbernugget(0):

Garmr (0):

I Am Innocent (1):

Peacebringer

Ika (1):

Nero Cain

Kid A (0):

Kthxbye (1):

Ika

NakedJogger (0):

Nero Cain (0):

Peacebringer (1):

I Am Innocent

randomidget (6):

dragonspawn, Kthxbye, d3x, Garmr, Dripping Goofball, NakedJogger

StrangerCoug (0):

TellTaleHeart(0):

TheDudeAbides (0):

Not Voting

- No one.

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2015-02-03 10:00:00).

I went back through all the VC's. Hopefully they're all accurate this time. Sorry for any inconveniences this may have caused.
I Am Innocent is on V/LA until Saturday. His prod has been adjusted to a poke.

Mod: can you please ban spoilers? This sort of posting is unreadable.

Sorry. As long as the spoilers don't violate any of the rules and people aren't hiding their votes in them, I'm allowing them.

[Garmr]

dragon psssshhh jump on the random midget wagon with me.

[ika]

No, it's stupid and trolly.....as I already pointed out in 1075

cool story bro. good thing IDGAF

what you going to to pussyfoot a vote on me or just continue to potshot me like you are now

[PeaceBringer]

so DGB why is IAI town?

[DrippingGoofball]

I like his posts, why, am I missing something?

Why are

you

voting IAI? I iso'd to find your reasons, I didn't find any. Did I skim too quickly?

[TellTaleHeart]

dragon psssshhh jump on the random midget wagon with me.

Unless I'm mistaken, I believe he is.

The DrippingGoofball wagon kind of snuck up on me. :S
From what I remember, my first impression was that she was relatively town. I'll be reading the wagoner's ISOs and trying to put together why this wagon exists, but help from any of them would be appreciated and would expedite the process.

Unfortunately people I would vote for based on my first read through, dragonspawn, Nero Cain, and StrangerCoug, don't seem to be attracting much suspicion, or if they are it's disorganized and scattered. I'll walk through the Nero and StrangerCoug reads again since they need re-examining anyway.

[StrangerCoug]

SC why do you feel disintrested?

While I do have some solid reads, they're few in number. As I believe d3x said, the game is essentially stalled, and more activity should help me in that department.

[Garmr]

dragon psssshhh jump on the random midget wagon with me.

Unless I'm mistaken, I believe he is.

The DrippingGoofball wagon kind of snuck up on me. :S
From what I remember, my first impression was that she was relatively town. I'll be reading the wagoner's ISOs and trying to put together why this wagon exists, but help from any of them would be appreciated and would expedite the process.

Unfortunately people I would vote for based on my first read through, dragonspawn, Nero Cain, and StrangerCoug, don't seem to be attracting much suspicion, or if they are it's disorganized and scattered. I'll walk through the Nero and StrangerCoug reads again since they need re-examining anyway.

Well I agree with dripping goofballs likely to be town I think she is the counter wagon to random midget. Dragonspawn is also town I can see it in his posting style and thought processes through he gets a bit caught up with shiny objects a problem I also have.

I would switch dragon and random midget around in your reads as you won't get a dragon lynch off his town as. Nero cain is unreadable to me at the moment and stranger cougar is something I'm willing to look into because of his iffy reasoning to town read nero he does redeem himself a little with latter posting.

[TellTaleHeart]

I posted a post using those games as a example why his scum. Where you can see the evolution of his town game and how the only scum game he has looks like this. Think my meta read was better.

Could you please link me to where you did the meta study, because I'm looking through your ISO and searching words like "meta" and I'm not finding it. I don't think I'm looking for the right thing. :S

From the meta alone, I can't really tell a difference between randomidget's town and scum games. The basic pattern is that they both seem like short, telegraphic posts with sporadic attempts at reads lists. I can't tell. The

only

thing that pushes him kind of toward the town side is the whole thing I pointed out about his preference for playing scum, but I admit it's speculative. Overall, I feel like a randomidget lynch would yield roughly random chance of him flipping scum.

I would switch dragon and random midget around in your reads as you won't get a dragon lynch off his town as. Nero cain is unreadable to me at the moment and stranger cougar is something I'm willing to look into because of his iffy reasoning to town read nero he does redeem himself a little with latter posting.

My major,

major

problem is how I can't make sense of the reads progression and how the votes follow from the reads. I'm wondering how he suddenly came up with "TDA is bad town" and what was building up to the killa vote because other than a single reads list where killa is named as "leaning scum" (Post 379), I'm coming up empty.

I just thought of an alternate theory that could make sense from a town perspective, and it's that he's following you and your reads around because he's townreading you. An initial look at the mod and dragonspawn's double ISO corroborates this, but I'm still trying to hammer out precisely

why

this is occurring and how this dynamic might make sense for him as town. This is a difficult task because he doesn't cite any of your posting in his.

[Garmr]

We should all compile a reads list. I'll go first. D3x is scum. Thank you.

Rinshan

If random midget flips scum I would consider naked jogger likely scum as well. I actually was going to try to keep my scum read I developed last night on random midget hidden till he gave a reads list. Naked Jogger post here was prematurely was trying to diffuse the value of my push.

Random midget is quite happy to not hunt when he is scum fire and ice There's was no hunting at all done by him just observations.

His hope game Shows as town he does have concern over who his lynches, trying to avoid a quick lynch while in this game he couldn't give a fudge.

Malas mewbie game (don't worry it's finished even through it says day 3) shows natural progress in random midgets town game. His current game has gone back to his earlier games style with some of his scum traits.

VOTE: random midget

For you Telltale

can I ask how long you have been on the site?

[TellTaleHeart]

I've been on the site for about half a year now, since August of last year.

[TheDudeAbides]

Following someone around is a scum-tell, which isn't surprising, since you're talking about Dragon spawn.

[Garmr]

@telltaleheart
I'm a true blue-blooded mafia scum player while dragonspawn is just green so I can tell his town.

@TDA Shh your wrong your always wrong

[TheDudeAbides]

You're being tricked by his following you around schtick.

[TellTaleHeart]

We should all compile a reads list. I'll go first. D3x is scum. Thank you.

Rinshan

If random midget flips scum I would consider naked jogger likely scum as well. I actually was going to try to keep my scum read I developed last night on random midget hidden till he gave a reads list. Naked Jogger post here was prematurely was trying to diffuse the value of my push.

Random midget is quite happy to not hunt when he is scum fire and ice There's was no hunting at all done by him just observations.

His hope game Shows as town he does have concern over who his lynches, trying to avoid a quick lynch while in this game he couldn't give a fudge.

Malas mewbie game (don't worry it's finished even through it says day 3) shows natural progress in random midgets town game. His current game has gone back to his earlier games style with some of his scum traits.

VOTE: random midget

It gets murky, because I remember he got mislynched as town a couple times in the games I linked precisely

because

he didn't explain himself well and in one of them he explicitly acknowledged that post-game (Newbie 1545, post 983). This still makes me feel like randomidget lynch is little more than a craps shoot.

Following someone around is a scum-tell, which isn't surprising, since you're talking about Dragon spawn.

I don't know if I agree with that, but the theory is kind of thready anyway since I can't really find any

direct

, solid evidence of dragonspawn following Garmr around. I have him giving townreads on Garmr, but I feel like there should be more than that.

[TheDudeAbides]

The most obvious is his read shift on me, which he's refused to explain

[TellTaleHeart]

Did Garmr ever dismiss you as bad?

[Garmr]

But look at the time line on the RM. You can see him improve game by game. He also provides more content and stays more on topic. But he reverts back to his older ways and his scum game mirrors this one even through it's subtle.

[Garmr]

sighs

[Garmr]

can we lynch scum aka random midget

[d3x]

@ika- Let's say both DGB and midget hit L-1 and you're the decider. Who do you Hammer?

[Randomnamechange]

Scum on my wagon are pribably in NJ/dragonspawn/dgb.
If I get lynched please look at Nero, AA and dgb.
Iai, peacebringer, telltale, Ika and d3x are fairly confident town.
There is definitely scum pushing either mine or dgbs wagon. Whichever of us gets lynched examine the wagon tomorrow.