Mini 1642: The Burning (GAME OVER FLAMES HAVE ENGULFED TOWN)

[Flames682]

Votecount 1.20

VictorDeAngelo - 6 (Toon Fighter, Boonskiies, copper223, acryon, RadiantCowbells, MonkeyMan576)

MonkeyMan576 - 5 (eektor, Cheetory6, Futan, Elbirn, Formerfish)

Not Voting - 2 (SiX, VictorDeAngelo)

With

13

alive, it's

7

to lynch.

Day One's deadline is paused at 2 days 12 hours until I get a replacement.

[Toon Fighter]

Didn't really like your reaction, Monkey man

unvote, vote: MonkeyMan

You are the one at L-1 now

[Cheetory6]

L-1 with boon in the game? nothnx.
UNVOTE: Monkey
@Toon, why don't you like Monkey's reaction? Explain that in more detail.

[Cheetory6]

I'm working so I don't have time right now to explain my reads, but mostly it comes from listening to other townish players.

The only player I can recall as saying that both Vic/Copper are scum is Acryon and you have him as a nullread. Can you please explain whose reads you're sheeping here?

@Victor

, can I get your updated thoughts on Acryon please?

[copper223]

@Toon
So you were likely the busser on the Victor wagon, sweet.

@Cheetory
Toon also sponsored the idea the we are both scum by saying it's more likely that a scumflip of one means the other is likelier to be scum as well.

[Boonskiies]

L-1 with boon in the game? nothnx.
UNVOTE: Monkey
@Toon, why don't you like Monkey's reaction? Explain that in more detail.

Rude, I wanted to hammer.

[RadiantCowbells]

I like the dissolution of the Copper wagon.

I'm going to be extremely unhappy if Victor doesn't happen today.

[copper223]

@Radiant
+1

@All
Toon placed Moneky at L-1, as a reaction for doing the obvious, with Victor not voting, that says a lot.

The way my wagon melted as soon as something else viable came up besides Victor, while some of us on the Victor wagon were considering switching, is also a pretty strong indicator that reads were not the deciding factir for some if these shifts.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, there's a few people who're obviously not so much interested in either a Monkey or a Cooper lynch but who're specifically interested in pushing the lynch off Victor.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that
Boonskiies, copper223, acryon, RadiantCowbells, MonkeyMan576
are all town if Victor flips scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, something I really don't like.

From toon:

@mokey: As you are at L-2, and that you say vic is scum, and copp only has 1 vote, and vic is at L-2 like you... Why are you not voting Vic?

Monkey switches.

Toon jumps onto monkey.


Really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Feels like Toon was just pushing for an excuse to jump ship.

If I had to go right now and call the scumteam I'd call it Toon Cheeto Victor

[RadiantCowbells]

Also the timing of

Are you implying I am scum?

@mod: does scum have daytalk or nighttalk only in this game

I'm a HE

1) complete fluffing at the time that town logic was building momentum.
2) a radical grab for towncred right after someone started to pressure him.

Going back, Toon was also one of my initial scumreads because he always seemed so interested in what I thought of people, like he was trying to protect himself and his scumteam as opposed to catch scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Which would actually run contrary to usual IC logic IE scum would treat IC closer to the same as other people because I'm equivalently confirmed town as compared to other players.

But in spite of that I really just don't like Toon at all, and especially don't like this flashwagon. Rather do a whole bunch of people before Monkey.

[Elbirn]

So I'm a little confused by your reasoning, like not that you guys aren't clear but more in that I just need to process it. What I want to know is, and I'm sure you've already said this, but. Considering these recent developments. Will lynching victor give us more info than flipping monkey? Do you really think a vic scum flip clears ALL of those people?

[Flames682]

@mod: does scum have daytalk or nighttalk only in this game ?

Sorry, didn't see this before.

I cannot comment on the setup.

[eektor]

Well, Toon switching his vote to Monkey is giving me doubts now. Would love a Toon lynch but I think this is a bit late to go for it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Then join me on the wagon that Toon isn't on?

[RadiantCowbells]

@mod: does scum have daytalk or nighttalk only in this game ?

Sorry, didn't see this before.

I cannot comment on the setup.

That like officializes it.

[Elbirn]

This is the issue, we all seem to support lynching any one of 3 people. Monkey seems like scum. The events surrounding the wagon on him are intriguing. I didn't think vic would flip scum but I'm willing to lynch him. Toon certainly seems like he could have been bussing but I feel that's hard to say without a victor flip.

Tldr I'd be okay lynching victor. Also My vote on monkey was serious but perhaps uninformed, and now I'm going to pretend it was just a reaction test for everyone else. Shhh. Also am on phone so sorry if wording is stilted or weird

[RadiantCowbells]

God everyone's so scummy rn.

[eektor]

Then join me on the wagon that Toon isn't on?

I think I'm going to have to review the game again to see for possible scum buddies for Toon.

[copper223]

So I'm a little confused by your reasoning, like not that you guys aren't clear but more in that I just need to process it. What I want to know is, and I'm sure you've already said this, but. Considering these recent developments. Will lynching victor give us more info than flipping monkey? Do you really think a vic scum flip clears ALL of those people?

I'd say the information gain is similar and decent in both cases, but I care more about who is more likely to be scum and just off of these wagon movements Victor is it.

I agree with Radiant about the list, I would also add Eektor to it though it's not flip related, it is also besides the point.

I wonder why

Elbirn town would like to know how many players a Victor scumflip would clear, why would that be a priority for him now in any way?

This looks a lot like you are calculating the odds of bussing for towncred vs sticking to the mislynch to me, man if I got you all D1 I'm such a boss

Didn't you say you would eat your hat if Victor flipped scum, why are you willing to vote him now?

@Eektor
I think you should join this wagon as well.

[eektor]

@copper who are you saying is your scum team? Victor, Toon?

[copper223]

Victor Elbirn Toon. I've had the same team for a while now.

[eektor]

Ah yeah, i thought this Elbirn scum with Victor is kind of new, but I see you've been saying that for a while now.

[copper223]

The players I haven't fully sorted out yet and who could also come into consideration for today before a flip solidifies my reads or shows me I'm derping are Former, SiX and to a lesser degree Acryon and Cheetory.