Micro 444 molliegeddon [OVER]

[Drunken Lies]

Jingle - you're not playing your town game.

Yes, you should be able to read me. If Redemption is fucking your head up I get that but I don't see your read on us being a paranoia read here.

No I didn't particularly like your vote on Konowa, but as I agree that Konowa is a scumbag, I can't really complain about it right now. Once we get a flip I'll have more to say about it.

You're little defense evaluations is new and not something you've ever done before. It seems forced and disingenuous, as if you somehow require some scale of reference in order to make sure your reads make sense in the thread. That's not how townJingle gets organized. And you know I know how you work.

[Drunken Lies]

Also, I'd like both of you to weigh in on my theory post wrt kaboose.

I actually thought it was good at first. But then I realized it could come from either town or scum. So the read hasn't changed but the effort and thought put into it softened it somewhat, if I'm going to be totally honest.

We're still not lynching Kaboose today.

I'd like you to elaborate on TSO.

[DrippingGoofball]

For those reasons I think we should lynch Kaboose today.

Nope

We are lynching Kaboose NEVER.

Trying to be obvious scum to not look scum?

Please explain this statement further.

Also explain why you are voting me.

Then explain why you are not begging me to go 1 vs 1 against you.

[Lying Cat]

Also, I'd like both of you to weigh in on my theory post wrt kaboose.

I actually thought it was good at first. But then I realized it could come from either town or scum. So the read hasn't changed but the effort and thought put into it softened it somewhat, if I'm going to be totally honest.

We're still not lynching Kaboose today.

I'd like you to elaborate on TSO.

First, you're going to need to justify why you want Kaboose alive until tomorrow, and what exactly you think town gains from that.

And I'll get to TSO in good time, but I can see everything he's posted coming from town.

[Lying Cat]

Jingle - you're not playing your town game.

Yes, you should be able to read me. If Redemption is fucking your head up I get that but I don't see your read on us being a paranoia read here.

No I didn't particularly like your vote on Konowa, but as I agree that Konowa is a scumbag, I can't really complain about it right now. Once we get a flip I'll have more to say about it.

You're little defense evaluations is new and not something you've ever done before. It seems forced and disingenuous, as if you somehow require some scale of reference in order to make sure your reads make sense in the thread. That's not how townJingle gets organized. And you know I know how you work.

And you still can't quantify your statement. You can't explain why you're scumreading me. I'm town this game, ETL. And you've already dug in so deep that you won't admit that you know that. I have reasons for my scumread on you. I'll get to them in time.

[Drunken Lies]

Are you on drugs? I've elaborated on my read over several posts now.

And yet you dodge everything I ask of you.

Yeah. So town, that.

[Drunken Lies]

First, you're going to need to justify why you want Kaboose alive until tomorrow, and what exactly you think town gains from that.

One less town death, that's what.

[T S O]

wait did etl just promise us etl porn

[T S O]

that's pretty kinky, etl, but if it makes you happy go for it

[EspeciallyTheLies]

aren't you like 12 TSO

gtfo

[T S O]

15, etl, but cheers

[EspeciallyTheLies]

oh well that makes it so much better

[T S O]

I'm really sorry for sarcastically making porn references on the internet and I'll learn my age before I ever do it again.

[Drunken Lies]

I'm almost twice your age ♥

also I keep trying to log into this account using Impossibear password.

TSO what are your reads?

[Varsoon]

To that end, and this is important, If Kaboose is alive tonight, and you are a vig, shoot Kaboose. If Kaboose is alive tomorrow, and you are a gladiator, do not use your power.

Onto other theory matters: The lynch. Today is a low information lynch. If we are going to eventually lynch kaboose, today is exactly the time to do it. Yes, we should get as much scumhunting done as possible, but lynching kaboose today is much more intelligent than waiting and lynching him tomorrow. First off, he's never going to get shot. That's just not going to happen. Second, if we lynch him today, we have no chance of accidentally outing PR's and we give the PR's we have a night to do their actions before a day of discussion and an attempt at lynching scum. Third, we will have more information to decide the lynch with (presumably someone's gonna die tonight) and be able to make a better decision tomorrow. I'd prefer to make the predetermined lynch while we have close to 0 information, not when we have more.

For those reasons I think we should lynch Kaboose today. Now, the caveat here is that Kaboose should be as active as possible, and we should treat the day exactly as any other day, only with a lack of hammer and claims. We want to use today to scumhunt, and only lynch Kaboose when we're done with that.

I think that we should lynch scum today and just, y'know, win.
Why did you wonder if there was an SK in the setup? Seraph Knight? Serial Killer? What?
Your second point wrt to lynching Kaboose today is actually really smart. This game is role madness as far as I am aware. We should optimize our PR use. Kaboose seems to be of the opinion that a lynch on himself is better than keeping himself alive which leads me to believe if Kaboose has any other abilities then he's weighed them against the weakness of being hated.
Your third point is solid, too.
My question is--does the Hated ability go away in MYLO/LYLO?
I assume it doesn't here, but it's important to check.

[T S O]

When LC uses the acronym "SK", it most definitely means Seraph Knight.

[T S O]

I feel myself devolving into making snipes at everyone - someone, save me.

[Kaboose]

I'm 27, I can has pornz?

p-edit - I have no other abilities, I would hate for us to vote someone to L-1 only for an untimely claim that only directs the NK in scum favour.

We lynch me now, no one has to claim that hasn't, scum don't get lucky with a claim that's attractive enough to NK, and maybe more powerful roles we have can operate correctly during the night and help us out.

Also I'm of the opinion that it makes no sense to say "We'll lynch him tomorrow let's get scum today herp derp!" because in all honestly we'll likely end up hitting a town member, then be forced to lynch me tomorrow instead of actually looking at people who should be lynched.

It's best to take me out now so the game can move on in D2 and actions not be forced upon the town.

[Varsoon]

What roles punish players for being on your wagon when you are lynched?
In the horribly bastard back of my head, I'm wondering if you're some vengeful sort of role that kills their hammerer or something.
Some scumfucked thing.
Some jesterer-tarded monstrosity.

I doubt it though. I'd like to think otherwise.

[Varsoon]

Basically, the way it seems, DGB and Konowa look to be the other competing wagons, really.
Kaboose, you'd rather a lynch on you over chancing scum in the two of those?
I don't think a DGB lynch is going to happen today, myself.
So, really, if Kaboose thinks lynching Kaboose is a better play than lynching Konowa and hoping it's scum, then lynching Kaboose seems town-optimal granted Kaboose is not lying.
Although it makes not goddamn sense for a scum-related vengeful role to out themselves D1, so I'm pretty sure unless it's jesterer or some shit

[Kaboose]

I think how worried you are about this lynch biting someone tells me you're scum personally.

[Varsoon]

I think it's fucking weird to just be like, "I'm town but we should lynch me now."
As a person who's made a few setups and modded a few games, roles like that should not exist in town. Yes, negative utility should exist sometimes to balance strong roles, but a role that, optimally, should be lynched D1 town-sided?
That's annoying.

[Varsoon]

From a setup-design perspective, it's shitty.

[Varsoon]

No offense if this is actually the case.

[T S O]

I'm almost twice your age ♥

also I keep trying to log into this account using Impossibear password.

TSO what are your reads?

You and Varsoon scum, the rest town. I thought I made that stance rather clear.