Micro 444 molliegeddon [OVER]

[Drunken Lies]

If I was trying to call DGB scum, I would have said that instead of calling you and Varsoon scum.

My problem with your reads isn't that you're townreading DGB, it's that I think it's a sudden and unnatural townread which was brought on by DGB saying she'd gladiate Varsoon or Kaboose, and me and other people suggesting Varsoon over Kaboose. Let's quote your read on her:

Quit your bullshit. See here.

UNVOTE: DGB

I don't see Gladiator being a scumrole at all in the slightest whatsoever.

DGB, as mentioned. I'm just really counting on DGB to be wise about her gladiator ability and not use it out of anger, spite or OMGUS. Locking herself into a 1v1 with town, limiting our votes to town, that's just kind of terrible and sucky. I've never actually played a game with that role in it, so I'm not sure how it should be handled. I know she's been around forever so I'm just gonna trust her and let her do her thing.

There isn't actually one word here about why specifically you are townreading her - it's just you imploring her to not use her Gladiate yet. That's all. No townread, just "please don't gladiate whoever you're thinking of yet!" And the main person she was thinking of was most definitely Varsoon.

Quit your bullshit. See here.

UNVOTE: DGB

I don't see Gladiator being a scumrole at all in the slightest whatsoever.

I'm also calling bullshit on your read on Varsoon - it's completely without any logical basis. "Oh, everyone thinks Varsoon is scum. So, I'm townreading Varsoon." No. That doesn't work at all. That's a joke reason to townread someone, and I've rarely if ever seen town-ETL give joke reasons for townreads.

I'm actually not town reading him for that reason, as I clearly stated that the read was based on his response to it. In combination with the temperature of the thread regarding his lynch and mastin's read on the slot, no, he's not a scumread right now.

And, yeah, don't start trying to misrep my posts by saying I'm sour about your read on me. I'm not - you can call me mod-confirmed scum if you want, I don't mind at all. But you're wasting your time by saying I do.

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Not sure where I said anything of the sort. I said that's what I thought, and I'm entitled to share my thoughts whether you agree with them or not.

And of course, you have a very real reason to not want Varsoon dead today - if you can get a mislynch today, then we'll have to off Kaboose tomorrow, and that theoretically puts your team straight into 3:2 LyLo. So there's every motive for scum-ETL to take this course of action.

VOTE: Drunken Lies

Man you're gonna be sad. I'll just leave it at that.

[T S O]

--- lesser town reads but still town reads:

Varsoon, he belongs here mostly because I feel like there was too much "hurrahing" going on when the idea of lynching Varsoon came up. His reaction seemed pretty natural to me too, though I've never been any good at reading him. I think I'm gonna pretty much look to mastin and DGB for confirmation of that read.

Can we summarise this down?

-I felt there was too much support for Varsoon's lynch
-I can't read him but he seems natural
-I'm not trusting myself on this read

Fair?

[Drunken Lies]

lolsure.

If you're town, your best contribution is right now man.

[Varsoon]

If the dayvig is real, nice one, Guyett.

If it's not, Varsoon remains on the table.

Wait so real dayvig or fake dayvig or?
D:

[Drunken Lies]

Why would he say "nice one"??

[Varsoon]

'Nice one' is admission of scum or
'Nice one' is sarcasm?

[Drunken Lies]

'Nice one' is admission of scum or
'Nice one' is sarcasm?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. Waiting for him to give any last words before flip.

[Drunken Lies]

So TSO?

[T S O]

I'm taking #476 as true, since your response to it was weak snark, which is a usual response when you've nothing to say.

Do you want to me to tell you that the reasoning given in #476 is a joke, or ...?

[Drunken Lies]

Ok. Whatever you say.

I take it that you're not planning to share anything useful before you leave?

[T S O]

Varsoon, what's your read on DL?

[Varsoon]

That dude is town as fuck.

[T S O]

Why are you discussing the dayvig?

If I'm town, then I'm giving my opinions right now.
If I'm scum, I'm still giving my opinions - you can take a few posts of lies in exchange for my redflip.

So why are you trying to dismiss the argument with your shitty gambit instead of replying?

[T S O]

That dude is town as fuck.

Go on.

[T S O]

Jesus, sthar, Jingle, how are you townreading this thing? Her Varsoon read is completely inconsistent and she's playing stupid mediocre gambits instead of even engaging in argument with me.

[Varsoon]

-Engaged
-Votes follow logical progression
-Hydra interaction rings town
-I like the earlier reads list
-Answered me when asked stuff
-Actually was really town in his response wrt Flubber interaction (suggested helpful pro-town interaction rather than stirring up shit)
-Townshot on you, if faked, is exactly what I have done as town several times and I don't see scum motivation to fakedayvig there
-Townshot on you, if real, is town confirmation. :3

[Drunken Lies]

That's all I've been doing, TSO... engaging you. You're the one pushing back and refusing to discuss anything.

[Drunken Lies]

We are not a dayvig

[Varsoon]

Hehehehe.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

#bestdoctor ^

[T S O]

-Engaged

Why is this a reason to townread someone?

-Answered me when asked stuff

Why is this a reason to townread someone?

-Townshot on you, if real, is town confirmation. :3

I agree, unless oddball set-up - but it's not going to happen, so let's toss this one out.

-Townshot on you, if faked, is exactly what I have done as town several times and I don't see scum motivation to fakedayvig there

Why couldn't scum have done so? It gave her a valid excuse to talk about stuff other than hard game content, which I wanted to do.

-Hydra interaction rings town

Can you quote these?

-Votes follow logical progression

This is probably true - but do you expect anything else? Do most of the scum players you encounter have wildly irrational voting patterns? No, they don't.

-I like the earlier reads list

Again, you'll have to be more specific than that - I still have no idea what this means.

-Actually was really town in his response wrt Flubber interaction (suggested helpful pro-town interaction rather than stirring up shit)

Quote it? This is the best point on your list, really, though that's not saying a huge amount.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I'm sorry, are you not scumreading us for "not engaging"?

[T S O]

That's all I've been doing, TSO... engaging you. You're the one pushing back and refusing to discuss anything.

Oh, sweetie, no you haven't. I've been discussing my Varsoon read in comparison with yours non-stop for ages and your hydra's response was to put out a terrible fake dayvig and then not talk for a while, before saying you're trying to engage. That's it.

[Drunken Lies]

#bestdoctor ^

I'm sorry, are you not scumreading us for "not engaging"?

At least one of us can post within the hydra

[Varsoon]

Why the hell would you pull a fake dayvig? Varsoon, you are a shit player.

I've got the giggles.



I don't need to go back to highlight stuff for you, TSO, you can ISO Drunken Lies and do that busywork on your own
I don't have to justify -anything- to you, man
Do you know why I don't have to justify shit?
I'm town.