(Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia 2 [Over]

Titus · Post Post #3725 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:05 am

In post 3722, shos wrote:why can there not be a guaranteed sane cop?
and why can there not be a 1-shot genie of some sort?

Then PV can can explain. He does not get to have us fill in details.

Titus · Post Post #3726 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:05 am

PV needs to be pinned down to one ludicrious theory.

shos · Post Post #3727 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:08 am

????

I still fail to see how this makes me scum, btw

Wisdom · Post Post #3728 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:09 am

she has a fallacy she's following (i am questionable sanity, peregrine cant be confirmed sanity) and she scumreads you for not following the same fallacy.

Titus · Post Post #3729 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:09 am

A real town cop questions the claim. You may decide to follow it. There should be a wtf? Explain. There is not.

Y'all are filling it in.

Titus · Post Post #3730 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:10 am

In post 3729, Wisdom wrote:she has a fallacy she's following (i am questionable sanity, peregrine cant be confirmed sanity) and she scumreads you for not following the same fallacy.

No. This is not a fallacy. Setting it aside, the fact Shos never vetted this is why he is scum. Not his belief.

Wisdom · Post Post #3731 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:11 am

no there shouldnt a wtf. read 3725 again.

Titus · Post Post #3732 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:13 am

In post 3732, Wisdom wrote:no there shouldnt a wtf. read 3725 again.

Yes there should. A cop claim, especially where one is against your role pm and you fill in details, shpuld be questioned.

mastin2 · Post Post #3733 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:15 am

Apparently I need another one because I'm an idiot and I forgot what type of game this is.

shos - 6 (Klingoncelt, DrippingGoofBall, alivechihiro, BlizZard, EddieFenix, Titus)

ProHawk - 6 (PeregrineV, shos, Wisdom, Muffin, guille2015, Pirate Ika)

Wisdom - 1 (Fluminator)
Klingoncelt - 1 (ProHawk)
Awesome - 1 (Frightened inmate number3)
Fluminator - 1 (Ankamius)

Not Voting - 5 (theelkspeaks, Bulbazak, Nobody Special, eyestott, Awesome)

11 to lynch.

Shos up for the lynch.

Wisdom · Post Post #3734 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:15 am

why do i even try to argue with you

cant you like put "dont try to argue with me, i wont listen" in your sig so i remember to ignore you?

Voidedmafia · Post Post #3735 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:21 am

Don't worry, Mastin, I gotcha covered.

shos - 6 (Klingoncelt, DrippingGoofBall, alivechihiro, BlizZard, EddieFenix, Titus)

ProHawk - 6 (PeregrineV, shos, Wisdom, Muffin, guille2015, Pirate Ika)

Wisdom - 1 (Fluminator)
Klingoncelt - 1 (ProHawk)
Awesome - 1 (Frightened inmate number3)
Fluminator - 1 (Ankamius)

Not Voting - 5 (theelkspeaks, Bulbazak, Nobody Special, eyestott, Awesome)

11 to lynch.

Shos up for the lynch.

Voidedmafia · Post Post #3736 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:21 am

Now go focus on prettying up previous VCs.

<<< As soon as life's not killing me, I will. Much as I'd be willing to die for the game, you guys would kill me if I did.

>>>

Muffin · Post Post #3737 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:24 am

In post 3718, Titus wrote:
In post 3716, Muffin wrote:
In post 3714, Titus wrote:@Muffin, by not questioning the PV guilty.

That's weak. Really weak.

No. His behavior has been scummy but for confirming me as cop.

We know how cop PMs work. PV cannot be a full, sanity unquestioned cop.

What if he's not a cop? Given the title/theme of this game I would expect some outlandish roles in the mix. In one of Reck's games there was a "Mod Mason" who could suggest things arbitrarily and if the mod thought they were amusing or good ideas, they'd be implemented. Somebody else alluded to a "genie" role in some other game.

I don't see, especially in light of how we were explicitly told that the mod might lie to us, how one player's role could not possibly be along the lines of "You can use this ability to ask me anything and if I answer it is guaranteed to be the truth".

shos · Post Post #3738 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:26 am

In post 3733, Titus wrote:
In post 3732, Wisdom wrote:no there shouldnt a wtf. read 3725 again.

Yes there should. A cop claim, especially where one is against your role pm and you fill in details, shpuld be questioned.

I'm sorry, last time I checked I *did* question the sanity of the cop claiming against my role PM. I have immediately identified you as a cop, if you recall, and said you're probably insane. PV's claim doesn't have anything against me, and he implied he is sane, so why doubt? if he lies, he'll be dead by tomorrow.

Muffin · Post Post #3739 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:26 am

In post 3730, Titus wrote:A real town cop questions the claim.

I've seen a lot of this attitude (not just from you, from many people) this game. These presuppositions only work if you accept that one person's idea of what "proper behaviour" is is generalizable across the set of all mafia players.

It's clearly not.

Titus · Post Post #3740 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:36 am

In post 3735, Wisdom wrote:why do i even try to argue with you

cant you like put "dont try to argue with me, i wont listen" in your sig so i remember to ignore you?

Glad to know it's perfectly reasonable to grill me over my claim but PV sorts and you walk through fire and change everything.

It's perfectly reasonable to believe a claim. It is not reasonable to apply double standards.

Titus · Post Post #3741 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:37 am

In post 3740, Muffin wrote:
In post 3730, Titus wrote:A real town cop questions the claim.

I've seen a lot of this attitude (not just from you, from many people) this game. These presuppositions only work if you accept that one person's idea of what "proper behaviour" is is generalizable across the set of all mafia players.

It's clearly not.

Agreed. Shos' sown behavior is inconsistent. He questions my claim that matches his. Yet he refuses to enquire into a claim that suddenly appears when he bitches about a lack of a counter wagon.

Wisdom · Post Post #3742 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:41 am

did you see me grilling you over your claim? i said the same fucking thing that im saying about peregrine. see 2359.

ProHawk · Post Post #3743 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:45 am

In post 3632, Wisdom wrote:PV's guilty is solid. He doesn't question his sanity, he tells us to vote Prohawk, he calls him actual scum. He wouldn't do that if he didn't know his guilty is a guilty. He has no fucking reason. If Prohawk doesn't flip scum he's a goner. There is zero fucking reason to fake a guilty like that.

Are you daft? HE CAN CLAIM THAT MASTIN NEVER ACTUALLY SAID I WAS GUILTY BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T

Wisdom · Post Post #3744 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:46 am

you know what mastin said to him?

she definitely didnt say the exact words peregrine posted in the thread, because he would have been modkilled.

Titus · Post Post #3745 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:47 am

In post 3745, Wisdom wrote:you know what mastin said to him?

she definitely didnt say the exact words peregrine posted in the thread, because he would have been modkilled.

Do you? How can we vet PV's claim without him claiming.

You said he could be cop, genie, etc.

Wisdom · Post Post #3746 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:50 am

so we wait for him to claim, titus. did i say he shouldnt claim?

ProHawk · Post Post #3747 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:56 am

Wisdom, if you had one question to ask the mod, and you had to paraphrase the response, would you use vague answers in your paraphrasing if they weren't vague to begin with?

shos · Post Post #3748 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:58 am

In post 3741, Titus wrote:
In post 3740, Muffin wrote:
In post 3730, Titus wrote:A real town cop questions the claim.

I've seen a lot of this attitude (not just from you, from many people) this game. These presuppositions only work if you accept that one person's idea of what "proper behaviour" is is generalizable across the set of all mafia players.

It's clearly not.

Agreed. Shos' sown behavior is inconsistent. He questions my claim that matches his. Yet he refuses to enquire into a claim that suddenly appears when he bitches about a lack of a counter wagon.

me??? where the hell did I question your claim?

Wisdom · Post Post #3749 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:00 pm

In post 3747, ProHawk wrote:Wisdom, if you had one question to ask the mod, and you had to paraphrase the response, would you use vague answers in your paraphrasing if they weren't vague to begin with?

does it matter if the paraphrasing itself was vague? He was pretty non-vague when he said "prohawk is actual scum" and when he asked people to vote you.