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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:57 pm

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In post 449, T S O wrote:You and Varsoon scum, the rest town. I thought I made that stance rather clear.
Honestly, pretty dang surprised people haven't figured out my reads.

I need to do that sooner or later, though, 'cause even though I'm remembering them, and yes still mostly believe them, the problem is that if I don't post them soon enough, then my entire motivation to play the game
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But, uh...they're there. I can probably say them, just need time to compile them coherently. Like, they're there in my head, but my head's...well, focused on all the stuff in my life right now that's going poorly. (I've been getting a bit bitter and disinterested in things. Like, as just one example, I had a sliver of a good thing happen to me today amongst the mountain of bad, and said thing I explained on my blog...but I did so dispassionately. It was cold, it was...well, if it was a mafia game, I'd have lynched myself on suspicion of being scum. :P And that's for something that I was super-enthusiastic with, at least in theory. I just...couldn't describe it that well. It superficially felt like I was, but the more I look at it, the more it feels halfhearted. And that's what I kinda feel like right now on this game, too. :/)

Definitely not tonight, but I'll see if I can do something tomorrow.
Can catch up tonight, though.
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:05 pm

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In post 489, T S O wrote:Jesus, sthar, Jingle, how are you townreading this thing?
I stopped answering to 'Jesus' about this time last year. :P

But my read on Varsoon is just general ~feels~, with a side of *stuff*.

...So not much. It's been too long since I've played with V. I remember him being like this as town, I remember him faking it as scum, I don't remember the details, but that general ~feels~ plus stuff is enough that he's someone I wouldn't want to lynch D1. Good, say, cop or whatnot target. The type of player less likely to be figured out by play and more likely to be figured out by interactions, be it player or role, if that makes sense.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:16 pm

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Fuckit.
In post 537, Lying Cat wrote:Mastin, you'd know better than I would.
Yes, yes I would.
VOTE: Drunken Lies.

Has ETL ever been this sure of your alignment as town before?
Closest I can remember off the top of my head is Sabotage...and even then, it was different.

This has been the read I've been holding since the beginning.
I hated ETL's question to DGB about DGB's reads.
I hated ETL's Flubber scumread when it was there.
I hated ETL's townread of me without a lick of paranoia. Townreading me, sure, yeah. Townreading me
that strongly
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I hated her buddying of me.

It's all felt extremely manipulative.

Like, I've placed markers at various points, and each of those markers was basically marking a spot where I wanted to say, "This is something that is making me feel worse about ETL".

I lack the eloquent words. This is...vastly inadequate. I really, really need to reword it. To start from the beginning, to describe it. Why I've felt she's been scum for quite some time. But yes. She's my strongest scumread. I simply...haven't seen anything from her indicating she was town. What I
have
seen is, multiple times, markers indicating that she's trying to manipulate people, that she's looking good with her words, but that they just don't feel like they're, well...genuine. They have the Antihero feeling rather than the Sabotage feeling.

I really wish I could explain this better right now.
But this is one of the reasons I townread you. (I didn't like her push on you and I loved your push on her.)
It's one of the reasons I townread Flubber.
She's just...not been town.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:19 pm

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Oh!

Then there's the fact that there's the complete lack of mind meld.

If ETL were town, I'd expect our thoughts to be easily synching.
They haven't been.

For instance, her reason for townreading DGB? "That role couldn't POSSIBLY be scum!"
(Yes, yes it could.)
My reason?

Because I really, really liked DGB's play for being town.

She should have seen the paranoia coming, and yet, not a lick of it has appeared in the thread of her knowing that I was.
She's simply...not thinking like I am, right now.
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:22 pm

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Dear mastin
lay of the drugs
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:24 pm

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I'm lightly scum reading mastin from his entrance which means he's town
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:26 pm

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We are dead some time tomorrow
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:27 pm

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We will not go further into that. Anyone pushing for more info is claiming scum
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:32 pm

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In post 653, Lying Cat wrote:I remember thinking mastin town decades ago, but that needs to be refreshed.
I'm town.

Refreshed. :P

If you insist, though, like on the early pages, I could always dip into the arctic winds of a snowy freezer and pull out a nice cold drink for ya. ;)
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:26 am

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omg you're all idiots because i'm not lynched yet.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:58 am

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;_;
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:16 am

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Nah, you're good because you're voting me like everyone else should.
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:21 am

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wow mastin.

LC we will die without being lynched or night killed by virtue of how our role works.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:26 am

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In post 687, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:wow mastin.

LC we will die without being lynched or night killed by virtue of how our role works.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:29 am

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after our flip, please take my reads more seriously. I know mastin. I know flubber. I know LC and tso. It's a shame that apparently no one knows me, mastin especially.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:31 am

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there is zero trust. paranoia and conf bias are DETRIMENTS to scum hunting, not assets. catching scum requires you to observe from all possible points of view. LC is the only one here who has actually done that.
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:20 am

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actually mastin is probably scum given such an early reversal when the crowd is moving towards me. that was pretty damn opportunistic.
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:28 am

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Why do all of mastin's posts come off as a blatant pr soft like we're not in a role madness game. I want to scum read it but logically I don't think that makes sense
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:32 am

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I thought I was scum for attacking you? Is it me and mastin?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:33 am

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Actually, to be 100% honest, I hate to derail the momentum we've got going here - but mastin's sudden jump onto ETL is just the type of move that a really gutsy scumplayer would do. blegh.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:45 am

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In post 693, T S O wrote:I thought I was scum for attacking you? Is it me and mastin?

No it's DL and someone else
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:49 am

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I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD IF NASTY RASH/MUFFINA/AP INSIST IN POSTING IN PIRATE SPEAK I WILL VOTE THEM ON PRINCIPLE ALONE

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DrippingGoofball - 1 (Konowa)
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Not Voting: DrippingGoofball, Lying Cat

5 to lynch. Deadline: (expired on 2015-02-13 19:13:01)
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:51 am

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In post 696, helium-3 wrote:DrippingGoofball - 1 (Konowa)
Drunken Lies - 3 (T S O, Flubbernugget, mastin2)
Kaboose - 2 (Varsoon, Kaboose)
Konowa - 1 (Drunken Lies)

Not Voting: DrippingGoofball, Lying Cat

This is really sad and disappointing.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:59 am

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In post 693, T S O wrote:I thought I was scum for attacking you? Is it me and mastin?

No you were scum for attacking an association read while ignoring the read with which you were making the association.

At this point, I don't know if I should continue caring. My role dictates that I must because it's important and I can help, but I'm just so disappointed at what's going on here, that I would rather just be like, fuck this game, because no one is listening to me and the moment we're allowed be lynched D1, everyone is going to fucking hate themselves, but at that point, there will be no taking it back. No undoing it. I am trying to explain, I have tried to make it clear, but no.. it doesn't matter.

And mastin comes in and sees we're potentially a game-breaking role and hops on the wagon? The whole point of that is clearly to get rid of us early so as not to have to waste a night kill on us, and then push to get rid of Kaboose.

DGB has already expressed her interests regarding her Gladiator, which makes the rush to lynch me that much more obviously scum-motivated.

I am discussing with Guyett whether we full-claim now or not, because clearly, you're all too fucking blind to see what's going on here.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:00 am

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All you dummies voting DL need to step the fuck off.

we lynchin kayB.

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