Drawn on Arrival: The Movie: The Game (GAME OVER!)

[Cheetory6]

You do give them answers if they don't have them already though.

[Cheetory6]

At the risk of sounding like a hypocrite.
Should go back to more important stuff.
We can beat up Brian after the game is over.

[Brian Skies]

Don't really care. Because they're not the focus of my push. And it's not like TTH was asking him anything. They were pushing him.

[Cheetory6]

OKAY YOU WIN.
:C
Are you happy now?

The only thing that stood out to me on jackel was the phrase: They random-voted mastin, like I did
not sure what the goal was to compare himself to Sera there?

(oh and the "193 is not a town post" too. But that's directed at everyone who's done the "this post is X" this game. Imo it's a passe playstyle thing that doesn't do much for the why.)

So these things stand out to you, but they don't ping you one way or the other?

[Brian Skies]

Speaking for people and defending them is actually a staple of my townplay.

And I'm more interested in your read/push on him than anything.

Nice motion towards immediately misdirecting the argument into a scumread.

doing that is bad though. If you speak for them they cant speak for them, meaning that we won't actually get any information (ie reactions) that we can use.


Also I'm thinking that exactly one of mollie/brian is scum. Currently leaning towards brian

Opportunistic scumposting.

[4nxi3ty]

no, not really
I'd need to see what jackel says about why he is comparing himself to sera/why reina's 193 is not a town post, and maybe how he reacts to the wagon

[farside22]

Didn't see mastin's claim. My bad.

VOTE: Reina
193 is not town post.

I think you're making some assumptions about how I'm going to play the game based on my first post, and are voting me on that expectation of playstyle rather than the actual statement I made.

I also think that trying to get 14 players on a single wagon is going to be a generally frustrating and miserable experience if people take it too seriously and there isn't enough grease for the wheels.

Scum.

I'm pretty sure farside is voting Aeronaut, right?

Yes. My point stands that you're just echoing what she said without any original content. I'd be cool with that, but you're not crediting her or admitting your sheep there.

Since Farside looks like town to me, this looks like an obvious play-it-safe move.

Meh.

Didn't see mastin's claim. My bad.

VOTE: Reina
193 is not town post.

I think you're making some assumptions about how I'm going to play the game based on my first post, and are voting me on that expectation of playstyle rather than the actual statement I made.

I also think that trying to get 14 players on a single wagon is going to be a generally frustrating and miserable experience if people take it too seriously and there isn't enough grease for the wheels.

i really like this post

Why?

I'm not happy with Brian stepping in for aero.
I'd like to see what aero will say.

[Jackel98]

I compared myself to Sera?

[4nxi3ty]

Not necessarily, but it wasn't scum, either.

They random-voted mastin, like I did.

Sera said nothing about not caring who is lynched until people die, I don't think.

[theamatuer]

doing that is bad though. If you speak for them they cant speak for them, meaning that we won't actually get any information (ie reactions) that we can use.

Also, no. Nowhere in my soft defense of another person prevents them from defending themselves. They can speak for themselves if they want to.

your soft defense means that they no longer have to. so yeah

[Brian Skies]

Lynch yourself.

[theamatuer]

Lynch yourself.

no

[Jackel98]

I said I voted Mastin randomly. It appears that Sera voted Mastin randomly. What else is there to say?

[Heartless]

I'm not playing devil's advocate at all. I'm asking you about your scumread on Aeronaut, and telling you I disagree with it.

Alright. I happen to think you're wrong.

(Also, the reason Antihero is scum reading you is because one of his principles, that I kind of bogarted by the way, is that scum post without purpose. There's no real purpose to playing devils advocate besides stroking your own ego or looking busy for the sake of looking busy. If you're saying that my read is scummy or disingenuous, I have nothing to say to you because this is my argument and this is what I think and this is how I think.)

[Heartless]

Other entrances I don't care for are Gilgamesh's and Marquis'.

[Brian Skies]

If you're saying that my read is scummy or disingenuous, I have nothing to say to you because this is my argument and this is what I think and this is how I think.)

I didn't say it was disingenuous. I said I was trying to figure out if it was. And you haven't answered half the questions I asked you.

Why do you think theamateur is town?

[theamatuer]

Other entrances I don't care for are Gilgamesh's and Marquis'.

I actually like Gilgamesh's entry though. I'm reading him as town for that

[pirate mollie]

Other entrances I don't care for are Gilgamesh's and Marquis'.

I actually like Gilgamesh's entry though. I'm reading him as town for that

have you played with gilly before?

also i find it strange that you like his entry but not his reads as in you said that you think 1 of brian and I are scum which is trying to hedge your bets and leverage a mislynch. brian's indignation kind of reads as townish to me and i know that i am town.

plus gamma is voting you and well...gamma.

in other news can i not even get 1 player to help me sort out ika? like really?

[pirate mollie]

also @ mastina

if you come back into this thread and continue to get weird on me I will think that you have srsly lost your mojo and your ability to understand me and it will make me feel unloved.

[farside22]

Speaking for people and defending them is actually a staple of my townplay.

And I'm more interested in your read/push on him than anything.

Nice motion towards immediately misdirecting the argument into a scumread.

doing that is bad though. If you speak for them they cant speak for them, meaning that we won't actually get any information (ie reactions) that we can use.


Also I'm thinking that exactly one of mollie/brian is scum. Currently leaning towards brian

Why?

@brain: why I don't like the defense is I have and TTH can attest to this as well seen and used players to help me as scum before. It's best to let the accused speak for them self before stepping in.

[theamatuer]

Other entrances I don't care for are Gilgamesh's and Marquis'.

I actually like Gilgamesh's entry though. I'm reading him as town for that

have you played with gilly before?

also i find it strange that you like his entry but not his reads as in you said that you think 1 of brian and I are scum which is trying to hedge your bets and leverage a mislynch. brian's indignation kind of reads as townish to me and i know that i am town.

plus gamma is voting you and well...gamma.

in other news can i not even get 1 player to help me sort out ika? like really?

Liking one's commitment and agreeing with what they said are different. haven't played him before, but Gil seems to have put an effort in his opening, so I'm thinking he's town for now.

[theamatuer]

Speaking for people and defending them is actually a staple of my townplay.

And I'm more interested in your read/push on him than anything.

Nice motion towards immediately misdirecting the argument into a scumread.

doing that is bad though. If you speak for them they cant speak for them, meaning that we won't actually get any information (ie reactions) that we can use.


Also I'm thinking that exactly one of mollie/brian is scum. Currently leaning towards brian

Why?

@brain: why I don't like the defense is I have and TTH can attest to this as well seen and used players to help me as scum before. It's best to let the accused speak for them self before stepping in.

Honestly its really because of posts 106-110. The interaction between them seems extremely strange. I dont think thats scum/scum interaction, but it feels like one of them is hiding something.
Granted its a rather weak reasoning, but its what I'm thinking right now.

[Bookitty]

boo where are you my love?

I just noticed this (serves me right for reading and posting from work, I think). I'm here!

I don't agree about Heartless. The claim is probably provable. If you're right, we can find out tomorrow or whenever. I'm not seeing any scumminess there myself.

I don't have a ton of experience with Cheetory and none with Gammagooey but:

1. Cheet's irritation at being ignored seems fake to me. I can't pin it down better, but it doesn't seem right. (In essence, I agree with Beast.)
2. Gamma sort of fell onto the wagon for theamateur with a big splat; Beast caught this too.
3. I'm going to read Beast as town for having similar reactions to mine and posting them first.

@Cheetory6: What is the point of life insurance? Can you explain this to me? (It's new to me, so it's a serious question, but I want you to answer it first.) Why did you pick Psyche for this honour?

I'm going to go on record as saying I am not a fan of Post 218 by Gilgamesh. I don't like either vote (the first is an RVS vote when the rest of the post demonstrates that Gilgamesh knows we're not in RVS anymore, so it's clearly for show; the second doesn't sync up with the reads in the post to me. Voting the mod is not worse than having hinky feelings about Beast's post or Psyche's post imo).

I honestly don't know about Aeronaut. I'm not agreeing with Farside much, but that's nothing new. Pretty sure she's town, though.

Also I'm thinking that exactly one of mollie/brian is scum. Currently leaning towards brian

Have I said before how much I DESPISE this sort of thing?

@Theamateur: Please explain to me the interactions that lead you to believe that one of Brian/Mollie is scum but not both and not neither. I see your list of posts, but I want the reasoning that goes along with that. Why is it "extremely strange?" If you can't give a clear connection between them that justifies this, I'm going to think you're scum trying to set up a one-two lynch (well, Mollie flipped town, so Brian MUST be scum!) and I'm going to move my vote accordingly. I see that Mollie already commented this but I'm reiterating it.

[Aeronaut]

I'm going to skim. Deal with it.

VOTE: Chettory

Anxiety is also scum.

I don't like any of their posts. Chettah tried ATE already which is horrible: "Woa is me, no one is paying attention to me." Like come on really?

Yea, I sort of agree with this. Cheetory's posts seemed a bit overfabricated for my taste, and seem a bit out of place.

is anyone even listening to me?

no

rude dudes

VOTE: theamatuer
Long time no see

hi

Also

Vote: The Critic

always try to lynch the mod in a bastard game.
Since the first 100 posts has contained nothing except random vote throwing, I'm just gonna wait till theres acutal content.

Though 4nx is probably scum just because he voted 4th

See, this is shit. You're going to wait until there's actual content? Guess what, there's a shit ton of content. What this translates to is "I'm going to justify lurking some more and watch you people lynch a random person"

Basically, anybody whose only posts are "Wow this is long how ever will I catch up" should die. Stop telling us how much trouble you're having keeping track, and post something useful.

Also, anyone whose going around saying it doesn't matter who we lynch. Yea, it does. Don't lynch someone just because it gets us to night faster.

Because it bugs me to not respond to things people ask me and I don't want to leave people hanging on answers to things especially when it's so easy in this case.
I don't mind answering questions about things I've done, but I have no interest in trying to sort the intentions of people in the game right now.

Why not?

Greetings, mongrels. And as I said previously, hello again to mollie, farside and Peregrine. I hope this game shall be as enjoyable as the last.

The claim from Heartless in 13 seems town.

Vote: Gilgamesh, King of Heroes

He suffered an untimley death last game.

So you think I should suffer a timely death this game? Cur!

Vote: PeregrineV

mastin's posting annoys me, and while I disagree with mollie on Heartless being scum, I like her vote on mastin (45).

The mollie wagon seems aggressive, and I actually do not think she is scum despite her tunneling on Antihero.

I can see theamateur being scum for his voting-the-mod post. In the same fake-sounding vein, beastcharizard's 128 doesn't feel right to me. Neither does Psyche's claim with a lack of vote (147).

Cheetory is town, Reina's post 193 is a nulltell.

Unvote
Vote: theamateur

This wild dog needs to be put out of his misery. Your king demands it.

This post is a town one. It also made me happy.

Also, for the record, I think the Heartless claim is a real one.

Fisticuffs is my favorite word.
You're now leaning town because you said it

Pulling back the joking "read" to include the word "lean" is an unnecessary modifier that doesn't

really

belong here.

I mean, I feel like saying my favorite word isn't enough to conftown him... yet.

1. "anti is scum cos I have never rolled town with him before."

I didn't say he was scum. But he hasn't.

Then why even talk about his frequency at rolling scum in the past if it's not indicitave of anything?

This was the most alarming one for me. He's interjecting himself into mollie and Brian's conversation about Brian's comments about Anti and the claim. The comment here doesn't fit into the flow of the conversation and is a bit of a strawman because Brian wasn't saying that previous games were indicative of anything. His mention of what Anti's rolled in the past seemed to be more for the purpose of providing background. Aeronaut taking a shot at that one part of what Brian posted without giving an opinion on the overall situation regarding the claim is really out of place and awkward considering the context.

I don't agree. What I tend to look for the most earlygame is posts which are trying too hard to be content. Brian added that whole last paragraph about how Anti never getting town in his games, yada yada, and then just sort of says "but that doesn't really matter" at the end. Why even post it then, unless he was just trying to make the post look more analytical than it was?

rude dudes
VOTE: theamatuer
Long time no see

hi
Also

Vote: The Critic

always try to lynch the mod in a bastard game.
Since the first 100 posts has contained nothing except random vote throwing, I'm just gonna wait till theres acutal content.
Though 4nx is probably scum just because he voted 4th

VOTE: theamatuer
This post wreaks of fake

Ironically, I think Aeronaut's post "reeks of fake" a lot more than amateur's. "Reeks of fake" doesn't

quite

fit and doesn't really work as an assessment of theamateur's post. As such, it feels forced and overstated and more likely to come from scum trying to sound assertive or authoritative. What I'm figuring is the problem of people voting theamateur is the vote for the moderator and the dismissal of activity up to that point. Personally, I think it's a relatively cosmetic issue and it doesn't bother me.

Well, you seem to be extremely concerned with cosmetic issues, actually. If you don't read that post as being fake as fuck, I don't know which post you're reading. He voted for the mod, makes a dryish theory joke, justifies himself not having and continuing to not read the thread, then throws in "4nx is probably scum" for no good reason, other then to look cute. If he actually thought that, then why vote for the mod over a scumread? If he was joking, that's an awkward-ass place for a joke intro post. All that post is is trying way to hard to fit into the conversation, and to look endearing.


Brian can defend me all he wants. He's goin places, I tell ya

[Psyche]

well im not listening to you either
jerk!