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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:21 pm

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On a mission I mean.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:34 pm

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In post 71, beastcharizard wrote:BPC, that is why I think you two are town. Well all three of you is because you have done nothing.

If doing nothing=town. I'll be really good at this game.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:53 pm

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In post 73, Blackberry wrote:If you want to choose 3 people that are town, shouldn't you be putting yourself on there? >_> It kinda sounds like you're more interested in selecting a mission that others will approve.


No one wants me on the damn team so why waste time trying to convince people of it? Finding 3 town people is finding 3 town people. I am sure I will be on a team eventually so I will have my chance.

You are also forgetting that if I submit a team that people don't like then it will be rejected and we have to go to a new leader do this whole process again until we can agree on something before the 5th time or else we fail.

I forgot all the rules but I don't think the leader should put themselves on any team. This will decrease the number of scum that a scum person can place on any one time. We don't know how many scum are out there either so lets say there is only one then we can assure that the scum leader's mission is a success.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:57 pm

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Wat

There are three scum
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:15 pm

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Yes, 8 players have 3 scum.

I'm somewhat surprised that:

A) You don't know this, as I would have assumed you've played Resistance before
B) That Beast didn't question this, as he appears as if he hasn't played before

How many scum did you think there were? O_o
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:20 pm

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No, beast said we don't know how many scum there were

I was saying there are 3.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:30 pm

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Where does it say there are 3?
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:30 pm

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I kinda skimmed over it, I'm rereading beast's last paragraph and still having trouble understanding what he means.

A) You thought it was possible there was only 1 scum?… Really?…
B) A scum leader picking a team without himself will have a super high probability of just picking a team with one scum on it and two town partners to guarantee the mission will fail.
C) There is more town than there are scum, so if every leader choose not to pick himself, probability wise we just decreased our chances of picking an all town team, if that's your goal

FYI, I'll give everyone, town and scum, a heads-up. It is supposed to be public that there are 3 scum. I see the mod didn't put that anywhere.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:32 pm

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In post 77, beastcharizard wrote:
I forgot all the rules but I don't think the leader should put themselves on any team. This will decrease the number of scum that a scum person can place on any one time. We don't know how many scum are out there either so lets say there is only one then we can assure that the scum leader's mission is a success.


Wat. I have nothing more to say other than that.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:34 pm

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lolol it totes doesn't say # of scum. In the game its 3 for 8 players, BC.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:37 pm

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Beast is capable of faking that but I'm kind of okay having him on first mission now
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:39 pm

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Yee I was gonna call it town tell but imo it's mostly null. Could totes see scum playin up the fact that its not in the op n stuff.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:39 pm

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Still not big fan of him tho, so I'd probs leave him off personally
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:40 pm

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In post 82, Blackberry wrote:I kinda skimmed over it, I'm rereading beast's last paragraph and still having trouble understanding what he means.

A) You thought it was possible there was only 1 scum?… Really?…
B) A scum leader picking a team without himself will have a super high probability of just picking a team with one scum on it and two town partners to guarantee the mission will fail.
C) There is more town than there are scum, so if every leader choose not to pick himself, probability wise we just decreased our chances of picking an all town team, if that's your goal

FYI, I'll give everyone, town and scum, a heads-up. It is supposed to be public that there are 3 scum. I see the mod didn't put that anywhere.


I have never played this before so yes there could have only been 1. Was it likely? No but still possible.

Everyone's goal should be choosing an all town team.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:40 pm

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Yall give me too much credit. Remember, I shot my own scum mate because I thought they were out to get me.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:46 pm

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How could you conceive there'd only be 1 scum? The game would be totally broken if there was only 1 scum… O.o

And if your goal is to choose an all town team, and you are town, you should be putting yourself on the team:

Otherwise your chances of picking all town are 4/35 (11.42%) (that's 4c3/7c3)…
Whereas if you put yourself on your chance of choosing all town is 6/21 (28.57%) (that's 3c2/7c2)…

Now, Beast, if you were to pick a team with yourself, who would you want on it?
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:59 pm

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In post 71, beastcharizard wrote:BPC, that is why I think you two are town. Well all three of you is because you have done nothing.


That was serious...
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:01 pm

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Generally, at least for the first couple missions a leader takes themselves. That gives the leader more info on who they want checked...I also don't care for this one scum nonsense.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:09 am

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I apologize for forgetting to mention it. Yes, a game with 8 players has 5 resistance and 3 agents.

Post #1 has now been updated to include this information.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:20 am

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GUYS WHERE'D YOU GO?
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:52 am

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I'm here. I think the best mission 1 would be Me, BPC, and beast.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:22 am

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I don't want you on this mission
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:25 am

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the first mission should be the two BBs and someone else likely to be town. BPC sounds good. Or Mitillos.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:52 am

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In post 96, BBmolla wrote:I don't want you on this mission

Why not?
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:11 pm

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Thoughts so far:

Aronis appears to be too non-committal. Could go either way here.

Mostly null on BBMolla. The fact that he knew the number of scum bothered me at first, but then I realised that this is probably just knowledge of the game itself. Other than that, nothing caught my interest so far.

I already gave some thoughts on beast earlier, and so have a few others. I think he might be scum.

BPC looks good, nothing bothering me there. He's engaging people and giving reads on them. I think I'd like to see him on the mission.

Blackberry is making me paranoid. I know he is perfectly capable of appearing to be town as scum, and making a valid analysis of a given situation, and that's what he's doing right now. On the other hand, he appears to be town, and his analysis on things (e.g. beast, probabilities) was valid. This is very aggravating.

Titus hasn't really said much, and is looking like a lurker. On the other hand, the things she has said look alright, so I'll call her null-town.

Wisdom is another one that makes me paranoid, for two reasons. 1) He is townreading me, and I don't much care for a Wisdom who isn't 100% suspicious of everyone all the time, since that's how he usually is. 2) I have never scumread Wisdom, and that always worries me, because it probably means he's really good at looking town, at least to me. On the other hand, I have not yet seen Wisdom actually have a scum role, as far as I can remember, in the games we played or I read. He needs to be sorted out post-haste, just like BlackBerry.

If we want the first mission to be a success, I would currently recommend a team from {me, BPC, Titus, one of {Aronis, Molla}}. If we want to just use it for information and don't care about the outcome, I suppose any team would be fine.
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