Drawn on Arrival: The Movie: The Game (GAME OVER!)

[Marquis]

no wait, i lied

town so far:
mastin, mollie, bookitty (maybe), gamma

seraphim's pinging me

marquis

[Heartless]

Can someone clue me in as to whose alt is Gammagooey?

I sadly do not know

gilgamess

no, it's the bald guy

[Marquis]

no that's quadz

[mastin2]

cos you aren't trying to sort the game at all from my perspective.

Not

quite

true. I'm having extreme difficulty forming reads. Too much chaos.

I am wondering why in the world wld you throw that beautiful history away?

Hey, I told you that the vote will probably move.

I think you need to fullclaim so that you can be accountable for when you supposedly "expire".

Not a chance.

also i wld like to hear as to why you thought that I was scum in the first place cos I am really interested in hearing that.

Well asking me for a fullclaim for one.
Just general bad feelings of your posting.

I may or may not like the ika push; I'll need to check. If I like it, though, that's a start.

[mastin2]

/family time, so I'll need to reread 15.

[Cheetory6]

wrt my shitty opening this game, I'm just gonna say two things:
i) Already said I'm not going to claim details of life insurance stuff. I was dumb and skimmed my rolePM, didn't realize that Psyche was sent a message saying that I personally had taken out life insurance on him. Can't really elaborate on my thought process of why I chose him without implicitly going into details of my role.
ii) Me being pissy probably looks bad and I'm not really gonna defend it/make a big deal out of it because it'd be stupid for me to focus on such a dumb detail of my play. I'd rather focus on the actual content of the game. Suspect me for it and push me for it, but there really isn't much that I can really say to defend myself on it. Was in a bad mood for non-game related reasons. That's really all I can say and am going to say on the matter.

Heartless

Yadda yadda Heartless claim seems like it would be ridiculous to be fake #sheepinggeneralopinionthere and they generally seem kinda town. For my ridiculous paranoid side though: does anyone know if Antihero or TTH have ever made really crazy fakeclaims as scum before? Not even necessarily on D1, just in general.

mastin

mastin's opening to this game felt silly. Though, I could just be bitter because my incredibly inconsequential townread got revoked for inconsequential reasons. Golly am I ever disappointed..
In all seriousness,

@mastin

I am a little wary of your entry to this game. Do you ordinarily say townreads like that just based on RVS? Part of what irks me about it, is that it seemed really flippant in a disingenuous way. Before you give me the "I'm confirmed town" stuff, please just stop yourself and be like "ok cheet I won't" because I don't care. In a bastard setup with 27 people for all I know you could be scum with an expiration date [which would be hilarious].
Also, what's the point of your mollie vote if you're not trying to convince anyone to join you and you're telling her you'll move it eventually? What're you hoping to accomplish or is it just supposed to be symbolic?

Not quite true. I'm having extreme difficulty forming reads. Too much chaos.

Weht. You've dropped like a billion reads already. Are they entirely just for show or what?

@Brian

i) Can you walk me through the jump in your stance on dealing with Heartless in 102 to 110? Why did you initially think shooting them was such a good idea?
ii) Why didn't you vote for amatuer somewhere around 119? What made Jackel seem more worth voting at the time?

General Undirected Thoughts Unworthy of Their Own Section

Holy fuck is CoolDog in this game? o.o

ika wagon doesn't really feel like it has a really great purpose. I feel like lurker-pressuring on D1 of a game this big is stupid. Unless ika has some kind of track record of playing super actively or something? Jackelwagon comparatively has potential to apply actual pressure to someone who's here.

I keep looking at boo and farside with paranoid eyes. Both of them are scary people and I'm not townreading either of them and it makes me feel insecure deep down inside. :c

How does this make you feel about Ika?

This question is also

@Varsoon

, but do you not think that scum would be more likely to actively lurk vs completely lurk?

@PV

, have you played with 4nx before?

Gonna look at Aero/4nx/others in-depth later.

[mastin2]

I also want to vote Psyche.

Psyche's town, 100%.

[Varsoon]

Hi Cheetos.
Scum'll do as scum'll do.
I'll sort them out if and when I live that long.

[mastin2]

vote: Mastin

You haven't been paying attention, have you?

[Varsoon]

If you're a protective role, do not waste that shit on me.
If you're an investigative role, do not waste that shit on me.

[theamatuer]

If you're a protective role, do not waste that shit on me.
If you're an investigative role, do not waste that shit on me.

so we can vig you if we want?

[mastin2]

Do you ordinarily say townreads like that just based on RVS?

Hi, Cheetory.
Sometimes I forget that all players have to have a first encounter with me at

some

point, and yours is this game.

You get used to it.

(Sooooo, yes. )

Also, what's the point of your mollie vote if you're not trying to convince anyone to join you and you're telling her you'll move it eventually? What're you hoping to accomplish or is it just supposed to be symbolic?

Symbolic. I generally don't unvote unless I really, really, REALLY want to

not

vote the player I was voting, AND I don't want to risk voting anyone else.
Which is a very, very rare thing in games; you might see me unvote without a revote one in ten or so games.

You've dropped like a billion reads already. Are they entirely just for show or what?

Partially

.
They're stuff. Not sure what I'd call them. Not "hot air", because I don't make stuff up; they exist but are very weak and just ~feels~.

Even in a normal game, it's a weird state of mind and you kinda have to know how my mind works (and god, good luck with that), and this aint a normal game because my state of mind is even weirder than normal.

I'm sure I'll level out eventually. Always do. (Well...

almost

always.)

Unless ika has some kind of track record of playing super actively or something?

Decently certain ika does in fact have a track record of activity = town, lurking = scum, thus my interest in the ika wagon, but I'm not sure and am certainly no ika expert.

[mastin2]

If you're a protective role, do not waste that shit on me.
If you're an investigative role, do not waste that shit on me.

so we can vig you if we want?

I get the impression V's town.

[Varsoon]

Yeah, if I need to be Vig'd, feel free to do so.
I'd rather the shot have a chance of hitting scum, though.

[Bookitty]

@Cheetory: Why do you think I'm a scary person? Serious question -- what experience leads you to that conclusion?

Both Farside and Mastin have shown an ability to read me like a book, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Also, if you've said, please excuse the repeat question (I asked before):

What is an insurance policy? Why did you pick Psyche for this honour?

[Honey bee]

I don't really see a point in voting ika unless he posts again. Though yeah I'm not feeling too good about that slot if he's not in here spamming a bunch like normal.

@kitty: An insurance policy is something you pay into and if the person dies the people you listed as beneficiaries get money. Cheet taking out life insurance on pysche -> cheet gets $$$ if psyche dies (???)

Hey, I am still here. What happened to my wagon?
In seriousness, though, I have barely read anything. Yes, this is going to be one of those games.

Because Jackel wagon is bad wagon.

Can we lynch this please.

[Bookitty]

@Honey bee:

I guess I just don't see the point of money in a Mafia game. I understand generally the concept of life insurance. I just don't see how it's applicable.

We have four hours more or less before Ika gets prodded for being a lurky lurky lurksack. I'm sticking on him until something happens there; after that, I have a few other candidates I want to bring out the chains and whips for. Jackel is for sure on that list.

[Honey bee]

Cheet probably would have wanted to know the details of his role if it was truly nefarious so I'm pretty comfortable with him atm.

I don't get why the amateur is fencesitting scum and not town lost in the game size

Also I'm thinking that exactly one of mollie/brian is scum. Currently leaning towards brian

^ How does that look like town lost?

[Honey bee]

@Honey bee:

I guess I just don't see the point of money in a Mafia game. I understand generally the concept of life insurance. I just don't see how it's applicable.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Me either. I dunno why you wanna know though. are you suspicious of him?

[Bookitty]

Yeah, a bit. I don't like the I'm-going-to-take-my-ball-and-go-home attitude he's demonstrated and I don't like that he said he thought it was going to be anonymous when he did it to Psyche. I want to know what the point of it is. I want to know that before Psyche "meets with an unfortunate accident." I'm mildly reading Psyche as town, so I want to know how Cheet benefits if someone I read as town dies.

The attitude thing is fairly troubling to me; it's a huge game and Cheet seemed really upset that no one was paying attention to him. It's like the parody opposite of the common scumtell where scum want to stay under the radar, as if he was thinking, "No one will say that about me THIS GAME!"

I don't have a ton of experience with Cheetory (AW, and that's it that I remember) but this doesn't seem like a town approach to the game.

[farside22]

poo vote is poopoo

Nope.

26 players in the whole thread
and you vote like that

yup

i actually don't think aero responded well to tth's pressure. the wagon speed was p good and hit the sweet spot in terms of resistance.

that was a good wagon.

probably but give me a moment and I will explain.

i actually don't think aero responded well to tth's pressure. the wagon speed was p good and hit the sweet spot in terms of resistance.

that was a good wagon.

Just no resistance from the actual person himself.

I'll consider the wagon when ika actually starts existing in this game.

On the other hand I like the jackal wagon so I'm sheeping

vote jackal

Why is jackal wagon worth sheeping?

I don't get why the amateur is fencesitting scum and not town lost in the game size

There maybe a lot of players, but not everyone has posted and this game is going at a nice speed for 27 players and not crazy.
Why is he a town read for you?

vote: Mastin

You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Yes I have.

@Honey bee:

I guess I just don't see the point of money in a Mafia game. I understand generally the concept of life insurance. I just don't see how it's applicable.

We have four hours more or less before Ika gets prodded for being a lurky lurky lurksack. I'm sticking on him until something happens there; after that, I have a few other candidates I want to bring out the chains and whips for. Jackel is for sure on that list.

I have a theory on this but if I'm right I would rather not say. I'm totally going to PM the mod to state my theory because I want bonus points for figuring theories out.

My mastin case is up next.

[farside22]

Why I am scum reading Mastin.

The short and simple is that her reads come off fake. She follows a few players and the last time I saw mastin have scum reads based on RVS reads she keeps it there for some time and will fight with people she scum and town reads more then she has done thus far.

Here are a few things I found in her post that I see as not trying to read Mollie and still pushing the scum aspect.

just so you guys I will lynch anti if you guys can make it happen.
also I am out of rvs. who does that dumb shit anyway

Mollie's scum; Anti's town.

No reason why.
I too have played with Mollie so the reason for this read is pretty inexcusable.

why am I scum mastina?

Because this is your scumposting.

No, I think your posting makes me feel better and better about my vote on you. Die die die.

I have a set expiration date.

So I should tell investigatives, investigating me is a waste of your night action (I'm going to die anyway), and protective PRs shouldn't bother protecting me (I'm going to die even if you protect me). No, no elaboration will be given. But dead serious, set to die after a specific event.

When asked she avoids giving a response to the scum read.

VOTE: pirate mollie.

After multiple post of calling Mollie scum she finally votes her. If she believed mollie was really scum this vote should have happened sooner.

oh cool, peregrine's scum

First impression says yes.

Following others as I said.

^Scum.

I speak from experience when I say...yes. That post by theam was scum.

following others again.

I am totally down for a mastina lynch but isn't she claiming masons with some1?

Okay.
I get that double-voters are supposed to be a town role and all.

But seriously.
Not a town mollie.

Still no reason. Plus she acknowledges the double vote but keeps her vote there? That is like a WTF moment.

Also I'm thinking that exactly one of mollie/brian is scum. Currently leaning towards brian

Funny! I feel the opposite way!

Still pushing mollie.

she knows I am never a good d1 lynch especially since she has actually seen my scumgame.

Oh, you might not be a good D1 lynch.
I hold little doubt I'll move my vote eventually.

Still quite comfortable with it on you right now, though.

Why?

cos you aren't trying to sort the game at all from my perspective.

Not

quite

true. I'm having extreme difficulty forming reads. Too much chaos.

I am wondering why in the world wld you throw that beautiful history away?

Hey, I told you that the vote will probably move.

I think you need to fullclaim so that you can be accountable for when you supposedly "expire".

Not a chance.

also i wld like to hear as to why you thought that I was scum in the first place cos I am really interested in hearing that.

Well asking me for a fullclaim for one.
Just general bad feelings of your posting.

I may or may not like the ika push; I'll need to check. If I like it, though, that's a start.

Having trouble forming reads is a scum tell in my book. This is not a hard game thus far to read through.
Sudden interest in the ika wagon?
it is like the whole point of the RVS stuff she started meant nothing and I get the impression she is goading Mollie rather then trying to sort her out or explain anything.
There is literately no scum reads she is talking about other then mollie and the reason is just because.

[Heartless]

ika's posting on the site but lurking here so there's that

[Cheetory6]

I don't have a ton of experience with Cheetory (AW, and that's it that I remember) but this doesn't seem like a town approach to the game.

Are you implying that I wasn't super melodramatic in AW?

@Cheetory: Why do you think I'm a scary person? Serious question -- what experience leads you to that conclusion?

Because I was incorrectly scumreading you in AW and you seem like someone people listen to? Bigtown voices make me scurred when I don't townread them.

Both Farside and Mastin have shown an ability to read me like a book, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Uh? So because two people who I don't trust right now say that you're town, I should sheep them? I'm really unclear why you're being baffled about this.

What is an insurance policy? Why did you pick Psyche for this honour?

It's not like I've clarified this like three times already.. but whatever.
I'm choosing not to claim what the insurance policy is or why I chose Psyche.
Why are you rolefishing this so hard? If you suspect me then push me in other ways. There is literally no productive outcome from trying to get me to roleclaim just because.

Decently certain ika does in fact have a track record of activity = town, lurking = scum, thus my interest in the ika wagon, but I'm not sure and am certainly no ika expert.

Can anyone else clarify if ika's latest early towngames are lurky or not?
Kthnx.
Would ask ika but HE'S NOT FRIKIN HERE.

[Cheetory6]

I don't like that he said he thought it was going to be anonymous when he did it to Psyche

Why?