In post 40, Alchemist21 wrote:In post 39, TierShift wrote:Then why did you say you did in #23?
As for the answer to your question, long or short version?
I didn't say you were; I asked if you were.
Long version should be a more detailed explanation, so let's go with that.
In post 21, Alchemist21 wrote:Why would anyone have been talking about your scum meta in the scum PT if you're not scum?
In post 22, TierShift wrote:lol can we lynch dodgy first?
In post 31, Alchemist21 wrote:22 makes me think you're scum, and know Anene is wrong but you want to use Anen's theory to try and get Dodgy lynched before yourself.
Seriously, if you're not scum you need to give a serious response to Anen's post instead of asking to lynch Dodgy first.
In post 48, dodgy56 wrote:yeah so tier is likely scum. (anen why would i talk about your scum meta, i was alive for 1 day in a game in which you were scum and i barely read the rest of the thread? Also note that in that game i read you as scum and jailed you n1)
In post 53, Toon Fighter wrote:Hi . Who is familiar with the source material? I've seen every episode :p
Who thinks a massclaim can be helpful to town? Should we try to break this game D1? I support this motion. Carl Gallagher here
Also, Tiershift's wagon seems a bit too big for the size of the game. Will abstain from voting for now because RVS seems over and I don't know where to put my vote for now.
In post 54, TierShift wrote:I used to be against flavourclaiming but as of recently I don't really care for it anymore either way.
In post 55, Aneninen wrote:I also think Tiershift's avoiding answering Alchemist's posts and also misrepresents him. Eg. in 37 he posted "You're avoiding my question. Did you or did you not believe I was admitting to being scum with dodgy?" – however it was clear that Alchemist didn't believe that I'm right.
In post 56, TierShift wrote:Do you believe I slipped being scum with dodgy? Why are you then not treating dodgy as scum?
In post 57, TierShift wrote:In post 55, Aneninen wrote:I also think Tiershift's avoiding answering Alchemist's posts and also misrepresents him. Eg. in 37 he posted "You're avoiding my question. Did you or did you not believe I was admitting to being scum with dodgy?" – however it was clear that Alchemist didn't believe that I'm right.
except in 23 and 24 hedoesimply that he's believing your story because of my post.
In post 60, TierShift wrote:
I know your scumgame is good because I saw it nominated for a scummy. I (closely) follow the nominations, as is evidenced by my egopost in that specific thread. That is the reason I knew it; it would be nonsensical to talk with a scumbuddy about every townie's scum meta.
In post 67, estival wrote:ToonFighter, I've only seen one episode but mass claiming is probably not the best idea. Why did you suggest it?
The conversation between TierShift, Alchemist, dodgy56, and Aienen seems based on some meta reads?
I can see why scum would talk about another players scum meta if they were to set them up for a lynch but it seems a bit reaching?
In post 67, estival wrote:The conversation between TierShift, Alchemist, dodgy56, and Aienen seems based on some meta reads?
In post 60, TierShift wrote:I get that now. I thought he was voting me for what he said in 23, that I admitted to being scum with dodgy. That is why I thought he was scum; I thought he changed his story after first not believing you.
I know your scumgame is good because I saw it nominated for a scummy. I (closely) follow the nominations, as is evidenced by my egopost in that specific thread. That is the reason I knew it; it would be nonsensical to talk with a scumbuddy about every townie's scum meta.
In post 71, Alchemist21 wrote:Is that nomination in the 2014 thread or the 2015 thread?
In post 63, TierShift wrote:Alchemist, here is the explanation you wanted.
In this game (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=60039), I decided to progress RVS quicker by going along with the obvious gambit, essentially lying up to page 3/4. That turned out very well. I got some reads off it, RVS ended quickly and it was a perfect town win.
I was pretty content with how I played that RVS there and tried to do something as to elicit a reaction from anen. I was under the assumption anen's case would not be followed (as it is pretty ridiculous), so I felt safe to portray myself as 'caught scum', posting throwaway remarks instead of responding, in the hopes of egging anen on and seeing what would happen. From town-him, I'd expect outrage over how I obviously avoided his case. From scum (I don't say scum-him as I don't have meta on that), I'd rather expect a somewhat grumpy response as others laughed at his case (which incidentally is part of the reason I'm townreading you, alchemist).
In the end, it did not turn out this way, as I am being wagoned. I do think my 22 was fruitful, though; I'm reasonably confident in my townread on you and I've found probable scum awkwardly jumping on my wagon. I also feel somewhat happy about the guy with the weed avatar.
As for why I shouldn't be voted for my #22: I could have very, very easily just outright said why I heard anen's scumgame was good. Attracting attention to myself instead has no scum motivation.
Alchemist, will you join me on dodgy? He's quite dodgy.
P-edit: wow that's quite a lot hehe