(Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia 2 [Over]

[Muffin]

Why not? Elk and celt both claimed rbed. PV claimed RBed yesterday, and was universally townread...

What exactly are you hoping this line of questioning will result in?

Are you going to start telling me what I should have been thinking, with the benefit of hindsight?

Let me pre-empt you by saying "that's what we were thinking, if you disagree, deal with it and move on".

[Titus]

I am not sure what it will result in. I am just finding things odd and trying to put together the puzzle for myself.

I can buy that rationale if you both are forgetful/unobservant, but that does not seem right.

[Titus]

awesome had gone 2 straight nights as a claimed vig not being killed or roleblocked while hitting scum and we took it for granted that n4 would keep that status quo
we just did not consider it

So who did you think would be blocked?

[Titus]

^^^ for Muffin too

[Muffin]

Neither of us considered a roleblock still in play.

[Frightened inmate number3]

we just did not consider it

[Frightened inmate number3]

the only time it even came up in my head was day 3 - "her kill went through, that's weird, oh well she's still killing town"

and all of us thought pv was some sort of mod-asker joat weird thing so i assumed his no result was related to his own role.

i'm not going to humor further questions on this topic.

[Titus]

Ugh....

I want to hear from NS and Elk before voting...

The answer isn't great but I suppose no answer would have been.

[theelkspeaks]

I tracked ika last night to see whether ika was RB SK or just RB. Ika targeted no one. This confirms that my previous no result was a roleblock, as this was explicitly a "visited no one".

[theelkspeaks]

In the above post replace RB with BP. I'm dumb.

[theelkspeaks]

Going to play squash, back in an hour.

[Muffin]

lynching me will make it so town has a 0% chance at winning

How do you figure? You say there's likely only a single solo scum left. If we lynch you and the claimed vigs shoot town then in the morning it's probably 4 town v 1 scum.

[Titus]

lynching me will make it so town has a 0% chance at winning

How do you figure? You say there's likely only a single solo scum left. If we lynch you and the claimed vigs shoot town then in the morning it's probably 4 town v 1 scum.

She is working off my communist theory.

A lot, but not all, of my concerns were allievated when Fin3 let Ank shoot Elk. Given no rber would be left, if I am right, a communist will flip. That would make worst case 3 (non-commies) v 2 commies.

[Muffin]

She is working off my communist theory.

I will agree that I was wrong and you were right about 3-player scum teams in light of Blizzard's flip, but there aren't any unclaimed kills, so unless FIN3 is a Communist I don't see how this is possible.

[Titus]

She is working off my communist theory.

I will agree that I was wrong and you were right about 3-player scum teams in light of Blizzard's flip, but there aren't any unclaimed kills, so unless FIN3 is a Communist I don't see how this is possible.

That is precisely my concern. He claims vig but uses the communist checks as his own.

It would also explain why Blizzard had a fake guilty on shos.

The biggest issue is, who would his buddies be? He is shooting Ank, lynching bear, getting Elk shot, I am not his buddy... NS is nearly conftown...

The only team that fits is Fin3/ika/elk or Fin3/muffin/elk or Fin3/ika/muffin (with Fin3 getting towncred for his plan).

Yet, that leaves them vulnerable to my role.

If I wind up dead, the battle goes to Fin3 and Ank.

Of course any ika team means they guessed I would check ika is unlikely.

[Frightened inmate number3]

Spoiler: updated likely nightkills chart

	1	2	3	4
Lynched	Toon Fighter, Fascist Godfather , Lynched Day One.	ProHawk, Dictator Jailkeeper , Lynched Day Two.	shos, Town Cop , Lynched Day Three.	BlizZard, Fascist Sane Cop , Lynched Day Four.
Shot - Town Vigilante (Frightened inmate number3)	ArcAngel9, Town Hippie Cop , shot night one.	DrippingGoofBall, Town White Mage , shot night two.	Klingoncelt, Hippie Fruit Vendor , shot night three.	guille2015, Town Macho Doctor , shot night four.
Killed - Town X-Shot Bulletproof Miller Vigilante (Ankamius)	Jackel98, Dictator Rolecop , killed night one.	Fluminator, Hippie Doctor , stabbed and killed night two.	alivechihiro, Town Watcher , killed night three.	Awesome, Town Compulsive SK-Miller Vigilante , killed night four.
Stabbed - Town Compulsive SK-Miller Vigilante (Awesome)	shos, who was protected by Bulbazak and lived.	Fluminator, Hippie Doctor , stabbed and killed night two.	Wisdom, Fascist Ninja , stabbed night three.	Roleblocked by Impossibear.
Silenced - Fascist Mafia (Toon Fighter, Wisdom, Blizzard)	farside22, Town Bodyguard , silenced night one.	EddieFenix, Town Fascist Cop , silenced night two.	Bulbazak, Town Doctor , silenced night three.	Faction eliminated.
Various Cutting Deaths - Hippie Mafia (Fluminator, Klingoncelt, Impossibear)	Alchemist21, Vanilla Townie , shredded into fertilizer night one.	UNKNOWN	UNKNOWN	PeregrineV, Town Gunsmith , sliced in half night four.
Beaten - Dictator Mafia (Jackel98, ProHawk, ???)	Pine, Town Communist Miller , beaten to a bloody pulp night one.	Roleblocked by Impossibear.	UNKNOWN	UNKNOWN

the above does not take into account the possibility of ankamius/impossibear lying about kills or alignment.

[Titus]

How does that chart factor in bp ika?

[Titus]

I am at the point where gut says do not trust Fin3 but logic says to.

[Frightened inmate number3]

Spoiler: updated likely nightkills chart

	1	2	3	4
Lynched	Toon Fighter, Fascist Godfather , Lynched Day One.	ProHawk, Dictator Jailkeeper , Lynched Day Two.	shos, Town Cop , Lynched Day Three.	BlizZard, Fascist Sane Cop , Lynched Day Four.
Shot - Town Vigilante (Frightened inmate number3)	ArcAngel9, Town Hippie Cop , shot night one.	DrippingGoofBall, Town White Mage , shot night two.	Klingoncelt, Hippie Fruit Vendor , shot night three.	guille2015, Town Macho Doctor , shot night four.
Killed - Town X-Shot Bulletproof Miller Vigilante (Ankamius)	Jackel98, Dictator Rolecop , killed night one.	Fluminator, Hippie Doctor , stabbed and killed night two.	alivechihiro, Town Watcher , killed night three.	Awesome, Town Compulsive SK-Miller Vigilante , killed night four.
Stabbed - Town Compulsive SK-Miller Vigilante (Awesome)	shos, who was protected by Bulbazak and lived.	Fluminator, Hippie Doctor , stabbed and killed night two.	Wisdom, Fascist Ninja , stabbed night three.	Roleblocked by Impossibear.
Silenced - Fascist Mafia (Toon Fighter, Wisdom, Blizzard)	farside22, Town Bodyguard , silenced night one.	EddieFenix, Town Fascist Cop , silenced night two.	Bulbazak, Town Doctor , silenced night three.	Faction eliminated.
Various Cutting Deaths - Hippie Mafia (Fluminator, Klingoncelt, Impossibear)	Alchemist21, Vanilla Townie , shredded into fertilizer night one.	Pirate Ika, who reported taking a hit to their BP.	Titus, who was protected by one of DGB/Bulbazak.	PeregrineV, Town Gunsmith , sliced in half night four.
Beaten - Dictator Mafia (Jackel98, ProHawk, ???)	Pine, Town Communist Miller , beaten to a bloody pulp night one.	Roleblocked by Impossibear.	UNKNOWN	Pirate Ika, who reported taking a hit to their BP.

the above does not take into account the possibility of ankamius/impossibear/pirate ika lying about kills or alignment.

i forgot up what bear said about rbs and attempting to kill titus. one cell left unknown.

[Frightened inmate number3]

ebwop - Titus, who was protected by one of DGB/Bulbazak/guille2015.

[Pirate Ika]

i thought awesome kill failed due to being jail kept n1 by hawk?

[Frightened inmate number3]

either way it didn't happen, but prohawk had incentive to lie while bulba didn't
why is this important to you

[Pirate Ika]

either way it didn't happen, but prohawk had incentive to lie while bulba didn't
why is this important to you

its not that important to me? im just being annoying before i get in a call with mollie again and she tells me to not post

[Pirate Ika]

in other news bear is still scum.

I don't think hawk boy lied. tammy obvsly didn't lie. I don't zarella was lying either.

I think klingon made a correct assessment of 3 teams with 3 players on them + an sk.

that wld make 6 scum plus an indie which makes sense. I don't think mastina is that much of a miserable troll and I am just gonna stand by this until proven otherwise.

jingle just wants to survive.

[Titus]

in other news bear is still scum.

I don't think hawk boy lied. tammy obvsly didn't lie. I don't zarella was lying either.

I think klingon made a correct assessment of 3 teams with 3 players on them + an sk.

that wld make 6 scum plus an indie which makes sense. I don't think mastina is that much of a miserable troll and I am just gonna stand by this until proven otherwise.

jingle just wants to survive.

If Zarella did not lie, then how did shos flip town?