(Hilariously) Unbalanced Mafia 2 [Over]

[Titus]

either way it didn't happen, but prohawk had incentive to lie while bulba didn't
why is this important to you

Doesn't matter. They both could have been honest. Not mutually exclusive.

[pirate mollie]

in other news bear is still scum.

I don't think hawk boy lied. tammy obvsly didn't lie. I don't zarella was lying either.

I think klingon made a correct assessment of 3 teams with 3 players on them + an sk.

that wld make 6 scum plus an indie which makes sense. I don't think mastina is that much of a miserable troll and I am just gonna stand by this until proven otherwise.

jingle just wants to survive.

If Zarella did not lie, then how did shos flip town?

he did not lie about bear.

[Pirate Ika]

in other news bear is still scum.

I don't think hawk boy lied. tammy obvsly didn't lie. I don't zarella was lying either.

I think klingon made a correct assessment of 3 teams with 3 players on them + an sk.

that wld make 6 scum plus an indie which makes sense. I don't think mastina is that much of a miserable troll and I am just gonna stand by this until proven otherwise.

jingle just wants to survive.

If Zarella did not lie, then how did shos flip town?

he did not lie about bear.

pick up

[Frightened inmate number3]

titus continuing to argue minute points that are easily countered makes me antsy.

[Frightened inmate number3]

in other news bear is still scum.

I don't think hawk boy lied. tammy obvsly didn't lie. I don't zarella was lying either.

I think klingon made a correct assessment of 3 teams with 3 players on them + an sk.

that wld make 6 scum plus an indie which makes sense. I don't think mastina is that much of a miserable troll and I am just gonna stand by this until proven otherwise.

jingle just wants to survive.

If Zarella did not lie, then how did shos flip town?

he did not lie about bear.

or ns.

[Frightened inmate number3]

either way it didn't happen, but prohawk had incentive to lie while bulba didn't
why is this important to you

Doesn't matter. They both could have been honest. Not mutually exclusive.

what's the point
what. is. your. point

[Titus]

We know that. But it is a question about honesty in claimed scum.

We know that PV made up the question. We know either Blizzard lied about shos or communists are present.

So the question is, just how much is made up? Was the ns inno real?

[Titus]

I just am losing my mind with this game.

[Titus]

Assuming Blizzard is lying, that mean$ we cannot trust any of his result.

If he is honest, there are communists.

[Pirate Ika]

either way it didn't happen, but prohawk had incentive to lie while bulba didn't
why is this important to you

Doesn't matter. They both could have been honest. Not mutually exclusive.

erm no. the 2 are not mutually exclusive since the 2 had entirely different motivations. you seem to have a very shallow understanding of what that term means.

tell me moar about how it is a fantastic idea to work with bear

[Frightened inmate number3]

So the question is, just how much is made up? Was the ns inno real?

lying about that would invite a quicker death by gaining nobody special's vote and voice against him

he was the last fascist. he had no reason to lie. occam's razor. double roles this game. two vts. not an issue unless game exists tomorrow.

[Frightened inmate number3]

i was initially outraged by your post because i thought you copped ns then i went back to quote it and remembered you copped ika instead.

[Frightened inmate number3]

If he is honest, there are communists.

he said:

ns is town
shos is scum
bear is scum

where are these communists?

[Frightened inmate number3]

I just am losing my mind with this game.

sweetie, vote the bear.

[Frightened inmate number3]

you're 99.9% certain there are communists in the same way you were 99.9% certain there's an sk - very unlikely, but if there is an sk, it's ank. and if there is a communist, it's still ank because all other kills are accounted for.

[Titus]

I think the next step is to decide once and for all if communists are present.

Short Version:

No Communists:
3 Vigs/SKs
Blizzard results unknown
Proceed with Fin3's plan

Communists:
NS result likely accurate
Shos result fudged by framer/tailor
Lylo with vig backup


I did not consider 3 vigs.

[Titus]

If he is honest, there are communists.

he said:

ns is town
shos is scum
bear is scum

where are these communists?

Shos was not scum. So either blizzard was totally honest (which means someone fucked with his results) or Blizzard lied about shos which throws his other check into doubt.

[Frightened inmate number3]

Short Version:

No Communists

[Titus]

you're 99.9% certain there are communists in the same way you were 99.9% certain there's an sk - very unlikely, but if there is an sk, it's ank. and if there is a communist, it's still ank because all other kills are accounted for.

I was at the start of the day, solely by counting the kills. 3 vig claims is unexpected.

[Ankamius]

Lylo with vig backup is impossible.

[Titus]

Lylo with vig backup is impossible.

I consider it lylo if no lynch or mislynch would give scum majority. Vig/Dictator can shoot a communist though thus creating a new lylo.

[Frightened inmate number3]

Shos was not scum. So either blizzard was totally honest (which means someone fucked with his results) or Blizzard lied about shos which throws his other check into doubt.

so you are in outer space right now and it looks like i have to pull you back so our earth can start spinning again.

here is how it went down:

1. pv claimed a gunsmith guilty on blizzard
2. shos claimed a cop guilty on blizzard
3. blizzard claimed town sane cop, discrediting pv's result to a false positive
4. blizzard claimed a guilty on shos, discrediting shos's result by capitalizing on the mass of people scumreading shos
5. blizzard claimed an innocent on nobody special as a safe and accurate claim, so that at least nobody special would believe him and potentially vouch for him

we know nobody special is not a fascist. blizzard was the last by lack of fascist kill and because 4 fascists is not viable ever at all end of discussion.

blizzard very likely copped nobody special for real night 1. ns is a very reasonable cop target for a scum cop.

if blizzard lied and got a guilty on nobody special but said innocent, he would have given up a chance to create another distraction target in place of him. falsely clearing nobody special did nothing for blizzard's survival, as if so nobody special would know he is scum and he would lose the chance to get more towncred for a guilty

i have also already brought up the nature of this setup - you can sort our town into pairs or almost-pairs. two vanilla townies, two cops, two docs, two millers, and so on

...and even if those premises are wrong, i will say it again: all kills are accounted for. so if you really insist on believing in communists, stick to me and ank. and the latter had little reason to fakeclaim, not to mention his targets were largely pro-town and made more sense from a vig perspective.



don't want to hear any more talk about communists today. we are lynching bear and following directed actions:

ank shoots elk
i shoot ank
titus can cop nobody special if she really wants
elk tracks muffin or ns

[Titus]

If 3 commies, lynch other than a commie. Elk flips dictator. Ank loses BP. We only have a shot if Elk shoots a commie.

Why the fuck are you giving orders to a guy Ank is supposed to kill?

[Frightened inmate number3]

in case ank is the scum between the two and is tempted to shoot someone else instead

[Titus]

I am going to sleep on this for a few days. There is no rush. I want to hear more from people not named Fin3, ika, or muffin as those are likely the three communists. Right now, the three of you are coming off more as high pressure salespeople.

If everyone thinks I am crazy, then Bear will be quicklynched and my paranoia will not matter.