Mini 1649: Jabberwocky Mafia (Game Over)


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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:47 am

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In post 99, TierShift wrote:That fails to explain why me and WP are of the same alignment. Doing superficially similar things says little.

QFT

I haven't any idea of his alignment yet, I've lost to Titus before (more than once) so I'm skittish of her. Besides, she's a lawyer.

@ VM Promise. That was for that Role, and playing any other way would have been against my win-con. Sorry I had to flake. Circumstances beyond my control. :(
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:57 am

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In post 100, Witness Protection wrote:Besides, she's a lawyer.

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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:29 am

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I don't really get the reasoning for both of you being the same alignment, particularly since I'm leaning town on WP and scum on Tier. I didn't even read Titus' post as saying you were either both town or both scum...Well hang on.

In post 85, Titus wrote:
Witness Protection is likely town or scum with Tiershift.
There is town red to be had (before I was overt in drawing votes to myself) in just throwing a vote on the tier wagon. He doesn't vote there.


So I read this as either

1. WP is likely town
2. WP & Tier are scumbuddies

Not as

1. WP & Tier are likely town
2. WP & Tier are likely scum

If it's the latter scenario...I can see how one could conclude that WP & Tier are possibly scum together, but not how Tier is suddenly town because another town didn't RVS them, that does not make a single lick of sense.

I'm gonna stick with WP is town and Tier is scum.

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I like Farsides vote on Brantz. Looking at Brantz, he jumps on the Tier wagon for undisclosed reasons, all the while complaining that he doesn't understand WP's babbling, with zero attempt to sort any of it. It sounds like scum just trying to fluff.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:34 am

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He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --


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TierShift [L-4] - BRantz, Elbirn, Titus

Titus [L-5] - Belisarius, Witness Protection
Debonair Danny DiPietro [L-6] - AxleGreaser
AxleGreaser [L-6] - TierShift
Belisarius [L-6] - Seraphim
BRantz [L-6] - farside22
farside22 [L-6] - Valkyrie Mollie

Not Voting [3] - hi im Yakko, Debonair Danny DiPietro, T S O

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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:39 am

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I'm going to try and get into this game. I will reread later tonight.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:43 am

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oh, thanks for explaining, elbirn, I indeed misunderstood.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:17 am

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In post 71, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 58, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:If Witness Protection made a third of the posts he's currently making that would still be too many.


It doesn't matter so much how many posts or how long but what is in them... or not.


Doesn't matter in terms or what? It can matter in terms of alignment and it definitely matters in terms of game dynamics.

In post 79, Witness Protection wrote:@ DDD(Triple Ds) I was casually meta-ing you, and I see you've been drunk at least once in your life (BTW if you're profile's correct, you're as old as my youngest (the one who brewed the beer)). Why the vitriol? Was I scaring Town into
not
saying anything by my (drunk) shenanigans?

Was it all a waste of time for you? I picked up a few things, even drunk. And if you want to know what, you're going to have to either wait and hope someone else asks what you want to know, or, you'll have to address me.

Ball's now in your court. Am I Town (however insane), or am I scum?


Your casual-meta failed you. You want meta, one of my first large games the town basically posted itself to death; it was impossible for them to find any signal in all the noise they created. So yes, I think it was a waste of time, drunk uncle, creating noise which downs out signal and hurting the motivation of some players. I would lean town on you, that doesn't mean I have to think you've been at all helpful.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:55 am

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In post 93, farside22 wrote:
In post 76, BRantz wrote:I am "confused" about WP's babbling for two pages. More joking around than anything else (the whole thing was a response to tier's "idk tldr".


This is scum.


Well excuse me for joking around in RVS while people were drunk spamming.

Tier's in response to it, but Tier realizing that he misunderstood later feels somewhat genuine.

Elbirn's analysis feels town to me. But seriously, I was the second vote on Tier, during RVS, what did you really want out of me there? Also see what I said to farside about wp's babbling.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:56 am

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ebwop... hmmm messed up quote tags...

should be: and
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:04 am

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In post 106, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Your casual-meta failed you. You want meta, one of my first large games the town basically posted itself to death; it was impossible for them to find any signal in all the noise they created. So yes, I think it was a waste of time, drunk uncle, creating noise which downs out signal and hurting the motivation of some players. I would lean town on you, that doesn't mean I have to think you've been at all helpful.

Was this a game Varsoon was in??? If so, then there you have it. Or are you advocating lurker lynches?

But seriously.

You're still being awful selective in what you're willing to speak of.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:37 am

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JABBERWOCKY JABBERWOCKY JABBERWOCKY
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:47 am

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In post 4, AxleGreaser wrote:
@TSO
I have read your previous games and note that you are student, with periodic assignments and exams. I remember being a student, I had advance notice of each. If due to those RL impediments you know in advance you going to be unable to have a timely commitment to being responsive in the thread please say so in advance to avoid me getting the wrong impression... or the right one.


Yeah, I should be relatively active, and don't expect to have to replace out as my exams have just finished and aren't until 3/4 months.

In post 24, Valkyrie Mollie wrote:hi guyz

wats going on


I consider using this in RVS cheating - we're all risking stuff to make the game and you're sitting there playing it safe. I am disappoint.

In post 48, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 40, Elbirn wrote:What's your interest with TSO?

We just played a game together. We have water under the bridge, at least in part it is now I hope clear its not bad blood under the bridge.
(testy and walking on eggshells maybe, but not yet blood


You were town, I was scum. We both played to our win conditions - I see no reason at all why there'd be issues.

JABBERWOCKY JABBERWOCKY JABBERWOCKY
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:12 am

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I feel at this point that I'm obligated to disclose the following piece of setup information:

This game does not contain use of a Beetlejuice mechanic.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:17 am

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*coughs*

JABBERWOCKY JABBERWOCKY JABBERWOCKY
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:21 am

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In post 113, T S O wrote:*coughs*

JABBERWOCKY JABBERWOCKY JABBERWOCKY

WHOOPS I LIED


Spoiler:
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:19 pm

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In post 106, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:
In post 71, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 58, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:If Witness Protection made a third of the posts he's currently making that would still be
too many
.


It doesn't matter so much how
many
posts or how long but
what is in them
... or not.


1/
Doesn't matter in terms or what?
2/
It can matter in terms of alignment and it definitely matters in terms of game dynamics.



1/
In terms of whatever it is
too many
of?
I assumed we were scum hunting.

2/
Basically (If i am very succinct) I agree with you.
but if i say more words. The number of posts can matter in terms of alignment because if there are that many posts
whats in them
wont be helpful, purposeful.
Too many is loosely correlated, contents is where its at.
My post drew your attention to the shallowness of the contribution you had made up to that point.
and that posting and thinking about content and reasoning was more alignment indicative by you and him.

Now there are other things to do.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:09 pm

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@thread
but not
@titus

In post 62, Titus wrote:VOTE: Tiershift

Sneaking so a cw forms on me.
<clarified l8r to: I am just going to sneak onto this wagon so people vote me.>

mechanistic, by the numbers


@titus

Titus as indicated earlier from reading my knowledge of your play is limited, #28 " (as I cant remember anything useful.)" but, I have seen you before, this style/focus of getting out of RVS, seems odd.
We could discuss it to death at length here, but I am happier for now seeing what happens.

but in the meantime
Have you done it before? (overtly ask for self to be a CW) When?
Failing that, other times you did a .... 'thing' to get out of RVS.


@tiershift

# Ok so maybe you are drunk maybe you are stalling to see the lay of the land, meh.

In post 98, Titus wrote:
In post 91, TierShift wrote:I cannot vote if I haven't read the game yet :(

Why are me and WP likely the same alignment?


Claims not to have read...is asking questions vased on reads I gace...


This is now a small pattern, please be sure to say when you have read and can be held accountable for your actions or lack of them.
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:38 pm

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In post 111, T S O wrote:
In post 4, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 24, Valkyrie Mollie wrote:hi guyz

wats going on


I consider using this in RVS cheating - we're all risking stuff to make the game and you're sitting there playing it safe. I am disappoint.


And yet you didn't put your vote into play, and your opening post was a buncha fluff. You've done exactly what you accuse VM of doing. FoS here.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:41 pm

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Bleh quote fail, should be this.

In post 111, T S O wrote:

In post 24, Valkyrie Mollie wrote:hi guyz

wats going on


I consider using this in RVS cheating - we're all risking stuff to make the game and you're sitting there playing it safe. I am disappoint.


Just want to be clear that the FoS is towards TSO and not Axle, as the screwed up quotes above would imply.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:59 pm

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In post 117, Elbirn wrote:
In post 111, T S O wrote:
In post 4, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 24, Valkyrie Mollie wrote:hi guyz

wats going on


I consider using this in RVS cheating - we're all risking stuff to make the game and you're sitting there playing it safe. I am disappoint.


And yet you didn't put your vote into play, and your opening post was a buncha fluff. You've done exactly what you accuse VM of doing. FoS here.


I want to marry elbirn for this post.

discuss.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:00 pm

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^ that was also the mollie head.

I want to clarify so no1 gets weird ideas about guy.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:37 pm

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Oh by the way, what IS Jabberwocky?
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:55 pm

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So far I haz townread on these people.
- WP
- Titus
- Elbirn
- Axle

Probably obvious townreads but I won't lynch any of these folks today.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:17 pm

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Axxle, I think most everyone says that my style of play is odd. Combine the sass of Sherlock with the aggression of Perry Mason the abrasiveness of House but the empathy of Kate Beckett.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:18 pm

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I usually lurk my way out of RVS. I felt like trying something new. I could only pull that stunt here because any other site would cry jester.
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