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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:59 pm

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What is this apathetic drivel that cheetory has been posting?
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:06 pm

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I'm looking through his ISO and see that he has a scumread on FA_Q2, but still votes Klingon with him without reconsidering the situation based on FA_Q2 voting her and goes right back to scumreading him based off of nothing.

His Klingon vote reeks of opportunism and doesn't really mesh with his earlier reads, and that's not even getting into the fact that he keeps making excuses not to post and figure things out.
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:08 pm

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I see your point about Viking, Shinobi, but it would be preferable if people could just not tunnel to the exclusion of everything else
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:08 pm

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And agree with #2201. Cheetory is a decent UTR scum read for me.
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:09 pm

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VOTE: cheetory

This is a good start if we're not going to stare down the "VF is mafia" tunnel all day.

I've also got a bone to pick with Kitz but I accept the fact that I could be biased in that regard. I don't know where her townread on me from earlier came from and it seems like her scumread is based on me not talking to other people, so I don't really know how that could affect her read. Hrm.

Pedit: Yeah, the whole Viking thing is lame and I accept the fact that he'll probably die today. I'm perfectly willing to move my vote there if it'll get people to shut up about it.
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:10 pm

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I'm happy to try this. VOTE: cheetory
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:12 pm

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Some of Kitz' posts feel weakly town to me on a gut level. I liked the initiative and independent thought behind for example
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:14 pm

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In post 2206, Ellie wrote:Some of Kitz' posts feel weakly town to me on a gut level. I liked the initiative and independent thought behind for example


I agree. I liked the way she was laying out scenarios of what we should be looking for but I'm aware that mafia can replicate that in an effort to look more productive than they are. Meh. Wait-and-see.
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:13 pm

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In post 2204, Shinobi wrote:I've also got a bone to pick with Kitz but I accept the fact that I could be biased in that regard. I don't know where her townread on me from earlier came from and it seems like her scumread is based on me not talking to other people, so I don't really know how that could affect her read. Hrm.

The flips changed the point of view with the definitive Scum, and the read changed over the course of the day one.
You seemed subtly ignorant on the environment of what occured to NJ, almost like non-care or sidesway.
Later on mentions prefer NJ lynch, but can do someone else, thus a second alternative.
Then suddenly mention that NJ could be scummy and worth an investigation, but never voting.

I also note the odd rivalry between you and TSO, subtly making the "they ain't same faction" scenario.
The lack of Piss interaction (tho I did ctrl+f searching).
Also a subtle defending of ABR overall with an odd use of Meta.
I also note the reserved no-votes.

ABR is all super-easy on "Shin is town". Lack of interactivity.
NJ also has nothing at all on Shin. Lack of interactivity.

Maybe I just see patterns that others don't see...



In post 1871, ika wrote:Boonskiies - Town Non-consecutive Doctor was killed

From what I get, Non-Consecutive means every 2nd day, right?

What I don't get is this. When is it active? Is it every odd day, or is it every even day?
The main question is, can the Non-Consecutive work out a Night 1 action?
Elaborate? ❤


I'm around for another 10min before I rush off.
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:42 pm

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I am at the end of page 85, this is fucking ridiculous. Our set-up spec is ridiculous and when
people begin to justify their spec guess by softclaiming
it becomes blatantly anti-town.

Please tell me this stops.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:48 pm

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In post 2126, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 1990, T S O wrote:
In post 1964, Ellie wrote:I think vikingfan is a town cop and telling the truth, but I am okay with his death and will probably hammer him if he reaches L-1.


Finally, you have literally NO GROUND WHATSOEVER to accuse me of anything when you are openly posting this.

Was this meant to be posted in the Scum QT or something?


While her post is scummy as fuck, I dont think it was actually meant for the scum QT:

I think vikingfan is a town cop and telling the truth,
but
I am okay with his death and will probably hammer him if he reaches L-1.

She would not have used the term 'but' with her scum buddies nor said she was okay with his death rather than advocating for it. It reads as though she is hesitant with his lynch rather than seeking it.


TBH, this looks like she is setting up to defend VF this day and getting ready to hammer him to cover the fact that she is his scum buddy. After a scum flip on viking, ellie is the next player on my scum list. Her play has been scummy to me for awhile this statement just screams scum.

Add to that the fact that she flat out refuses to expound upon it when asked. Scummy as hell.

pedit: @wake when the hell is lying about a role claim not a good reason to lynch? The case for VF's claim to be a lie is pretty damning. You are damn well aware of the use of fake claiming considering you do it all the time as scum. This statement makes me question your alignment as well.


I agree with this. The comment makes perfect sense, however, if the game is multiball. I do not have time to think about singleball right now.

Okay I have 2 mins and am noting stuff I want to look at tonight for myself:

-post above
-Associatives for pisskop
-MathBlade made a bad post about the 1v1 between ABR/vf, read that
-vf gave meta, read that
-tell MathBlade to stop the fucking trolling
-MathBlade did make a post about associatives though, props, will read
-tell everyone to stop set-up spec and scumhunt
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:24 am

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In post 2208, Kitz wrote:From what I get, Non-Consecutive means every 2nd day, right?

What I don't get is this. When is it active? Is it every odd day, or is it every even day?
The main question is, can the Non-Consecutive work out a Night 1 action?
Elaborate? ❤

The PR gets to choose. They can either start N1 and then act N3, 5, and so forth or they can wait and act N2.

In post 2209, T S O wrote:I am at the end of page 85, this is fucking ridiculous. Our set-up spec is ridiculous and when
people begin to justify their spec guess by softclaiming
it becomes blatantly anti-town.

Please tell me this stops.

You're my favourite.

RE: Ellie: I'll state for the record that the "I think he might be truthing but I'll vote for him" post doesn't seem impossible to have come from Town but that the post where she refuses to elabourate does.

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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:45 am

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Shinobi is scum :( Not cool yo. And probs TSO too.

Shinobi says concerned about letting VF love another day then through no poking/prodding/almost anything abandons that idea without reason to go for cheetory.

TSO prob scum for naked "A post of mine is bad" and then declaring another post good.
Both of those posts were about my thoughts and as I am the town troll I will always troll.

Pisskop/VF/NJ/Shinobi/TSO

Ellie don't fall for the scum plot.
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:49 am

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Good morning non trolls. Any kill attempted without fire or acid results in my rebirth. Especially at night when things get super creepy.

If anyone wants to kill then sunlight powered torches are available for the low price of thinking I am scum and voting me. :)
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:35 am

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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:37 am

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In post 2212, MathBlade wrote:Shinobi says concerned about letting VF love another day then through no poking/prodding/almost anything abandons that idea without reason to go for cheetory.

I thought you were supposed to be a troll? That sounds reasonable.
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:52 am

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Wasn't there a rule against not voting for an entire day?
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:25 am

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"tso is scum cos he called one of my posts bad and then one good. no town could ever do that."

really?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:05 am

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@goodmorning -- Yes I am a troll. It means I try to make everyone laugh during the game and poke fun at myself while doing so.
Still trying to get scum lynched.

@TSO -- Oh yeah. It isn't that you did it. It is that you did it with the promise of later.
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:05 am

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Right now I am seeing a Viking lynch or an mislynch. Nothing else looks to be as promising.
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:05 am

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And that it is naked :) posts should have clothes (reasons) when possible.
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:07 am

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In post 2192, Shinobi wrote:
In post 2189, Ellie wrote:Town VF likely dies tonight. If so, we avoid wasting a lynch. If not, he shares his result and we lynch him tomorrow. Then he either flips town or we get someone confirmed off his result


This.

We aren't lynching the cop claim because the situation likely resolves itself in due time.


This was also the reason to not lynch yesterday and we got no useful results from the "cop".
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:10 am

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In post 2212, MathBlade wrote:Shinobi says concerned about letting VF love another day then through no poking/prodding/almost anything abandons that idea without reason to go for cheetory.

He stated he was trying to shift the focus to something more productive because the VF problem solves itself. I think he's town
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:10 am

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In post 2221, MathBlade wrote:This was also the reason to not lynch yesterday and we got no useful results from the "cop".

Do you disagree that tonight is different from last night?
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:11 am

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In post 2211, goodmorning wrote:RE: Ellie: I'll state for the record that the "I think he might be truthing but I'll vote for him" post doesn't seem impossible to have come from Town but that the post where she refuses to elabourate does.

I'm curious about this part - I actually had a very good reason for saying no, but what is your reasoning?

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