Micro 447: Shameless Mafia -- Game Over!

[This Christmas]

Well the thing that I'm a little burned out on is how less times town can get a scum lynched on day one and ends up lynching town. Why is the ratio so horrible?

answer this question yourself thx

[This Christmas]

what made u compelled 2 post that

[shos]

Prodsosge. Im a bit busy, will be here in <24h

[shos]

SO HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN!?!

less than 24 hrs, yes? yes.

[This Christmas]

Ur biological clock
Leads you to wonderland

[shos]

lol
I'm arranging my room, and will be here in about an hour I suppose, to provide about an hour of my time for this game

[shos]

So I'm here. I'm going to reread some and hopefully get some ISOing done.

[shos]

starting from the least posters of course.
sooooo dodgy. 6 posts in the entire game? including a proddodge and an RVS vote. lame. let's see what's in them.

ok so post 48 is interesting. I went back to see anen's post 20 to see the reference, since I remembered that dodgy wasn't even related and I wondered how this is what he chose to focus on. So in that post, he is indeed mentioned and is called scum. However, how does this post fit with the call for Tierscum? both in this post and in the vote after it on 49 - is this a naked vote? a pressure vote? you've been put in the same brackets with Tier as scum, so....?

oh so in post 82 he explains it. that's a pretty lollish explanation I think, it's obvious that Tier was joking there. odd.

post 111 is worth reading, since it sums up the entire ISO together, lol. it's odd, but I don't think it is scummy. it looks like a person who has yet to get involved with the game, as can also be witnessed by his prod dodge. if low posting was a goal, he wouldn't have actually get prodded.

so I'm null here.

[shos]

the last line of post 67 in estival's ISO shows good town mind, I think. I saw like 3 times that people ask why scum would talk about another player's scum meta and sorta agreed, but now that my attention is on this, this actually makes sense. I like.

Nothing too special about the rest of the ISO. in general, this looks like a townie ISO. works thoroughly, seems pretty transparent and his thoughts and observations are legit.

Town.

[shos]

so the nameclaim and the massclaim offer on p1 is reaaaaaaally wierd imo. Town don't do that, like ever, and it's not like TF is a newbie. ALso, he said he knows every episode, so he KNOWS that there are maaaany people, more than enough, who can be fakeclaimed, and lots of people who can be both scum and town. So definitely no way this has actual town intent. The fact that he claimed Carl immediately in the same post is very strange as well. nameclaiming is bad, because in case the character fits the role, which it does as can be verified by everyone's role PM, then obviously the one who claims Lip is stronger than Debs, so that only helps scum.

This looks like scum trying to get town's confidence by early claiming their fakeclaim. Because the wifom thought of "why would scum claim so early and lock themself into something without good reason" is something scum can use, and I find it reaaaaaaaaally wierd if a townie who has seen the series would post this.

and then in ISO#3 we have:

I suggested it on the off-chance the game was poorly designed (sorry insanity, but had to check) and that scum had poor fakeclaims/ the game could be broken. If the game is well-designed, mass claiming shouldn't be a problem, if not, it could provide an advantage to town.

As for familiarity with shameless, it ties with the mass claim/ scum's fake claims. Players who haven't watched the show would have a more difficult time coming up with a convincing claim than someone who has watched everything.

WHICH IS TERRIBLY TERRIBLE.

I mean WUT.

post 160 I disagree with but it doesn't make any actual points that point towards being town. the following vote on dodgy is really fake and... easy, I think. that ISO is realely short but it doesn't actually have any scummy things in it, and that is a low hanging fruit.

good place to vote is TF.


scum.

[TierShift]

I'm going to read TF later and get back to you about that but your focus away from me makes me believe you don't actually think I slipped earlier and lied about that. I want feedback from you on this.

[shos]

I realized i needed reevaluation, yes. This is why I decided to go ISOing, willcontinue somewhen

[TierShift]

So you don't believe it's a slip and you lied. Am I right?

[shos]

well nope. I did think it was a slip, but those explanation posts by you later in the game didn't sink in well enough at the time. so basically, you made me realize I didn't read the thread thoroughly enough.

[insanity018]

Frank is constantly causing problems by stealing money from his children to pay for alcohol.

Votecount 1.8

TierShift

(3): Aneninen, dodgy56, shos

shos

(2): Alchemist21, TierShift

Toon Fighter

(1): This Christmas

ArcAngel9

(1): estival

dodgy56

(1): Toon Fighter

Aneninen

(1): ArcAngel9

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-03-07 20:04:00)

[insanity018]

dodgy56 and ArcAngel9 have been prodded.

[shos]

AA9's game looks ok for the while. her points/accusations and questions are legit imo and the ISO shows town thought process, I think. I'll call this mild town.

[Aneninen]

Reading.
I don't like the general inactivity of certain players.

[estival]

This Christmas, I was compelled by elsewhere and elsewhen. Do you always troll a bit? OR can someone else comment on that?

[TierShift]

well nope. I did think it was a slip, but those explanation posts by you later in the game didn't sink in well enough at the time. so basically, you made me realize I didn't read the thread thoroughly enough.

why was your focus not on me at the start of your reread, then?

[ArcAngel9]

PROD received.
I ll post more on monday. Sorry!

[estival]

Hmm...is This Christmas an alt?

TierShift, why suspicious of Shos?

Yes, a bit of lurkering going on and I'm having trouble getting reads on people.

[dodgy56]

ughh Real life can be such a bitch sometimes re-reading now

[shos]

well nope. I did think it was a slip, but those explanation posts by you later in the game didn't sink in well enough at the time. so basically, you made me realize I didn't read the thread thoroughly enough.

why was your focus not on me at the start of your reread, then?

Lol because you are the lead poster, with amount of posts more than twice as much as me, being second

[TierShift]

TierShift, why suspicious of Shos?

Well, I initially voted him for sheeping a case based on smething that was obviously not a slip. Nevertheless, it was possible that he just didn't really read.

However, at this moment there's a discrepancy between his previous actions and his point of focus. If he actually thinks I slipped, as in really slipped, he would be sure I was scum. Completely sure. That's what a scumslip is, after all. He could do pre-flip associatives, or some other thing. At least his focus should actively be on me, not on other players like TF. He's just skipped me, like I'm some variable, while he was 100% I was scum. That doesn't line up and he's now ignoring me pointing it out to him.

Even if he's now realised it's not a slip, his focus should have been on me at the start of his reread, not on dodgy.
Do you get that?