Open 588 Pick Your Poison -- Game Over

[TellTaleHeart]

Im a HE, as stated next to every post I make, shows how prepared and attentively you made your case.

You're one to talk!

*mrph*

[Drezi]

I've still got quite a few

topics to talk about

from 40 pages of game.

Namely:

ika's predecessors, Nacho, and ABR.

Not quite sure how anyone could think of this as an answer to my question, especially after that first line.

[TellTaleHeart]

If I'm scum to you because I'm not giving you instant gratification, then I have nothing more to say to you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah...not gonna vote telltaleheart today...

[Drezi]

You're scum because of your predecessor's play, because you tried to push an easy win on ika with your scumbuddy Riabi right off the gates putting him 3 votes away from a lynch and because you couldn't answer a simple question that would show that at least you're seriously convinced that you're voting scum in MyLo.

I'm townreading Lalendra and House, which leaves You Riabi ABR Nacho and ika as possible scum, and ika has like no scumteams that even make sense at this point, which makes him a likely town by PoE, and I've already told you about Nacho.

On the other hand ABR quite conviniently townreads Riabi and you and votes me go figure.

[Drezi]

The targets of ABR and Lalendra a clearly new player, and me, the two targets he percieved as easiest to push a mislynch on.

@town I'm fine with lynching any of ABR TTH and Riabi.

[Drezi]

EBWOP

The tagets of ABR are...*

[TellTaleHeart]

3 votes away! Jiminy jillikers, that means scum could quickhammer!







Counting is hard.

[Drezi]

Go ahead and strawman my whole case based on that. Yes theoretically it means that a prepared scumteam could quickhammer, and there's no reason to allow it even by chance, especially when you can't even make a likely scumteam around ika.

[TellTaleHeart]

You're scum because of your predecessor's play, because you tried to push an easy win on ika with your scumbuddy Riabi right off the gates putting him 3 votes away from a lynch and because you couldn't answer a simple question that would show that at least you're seriously convinced that you're voting scum in MyLo.

Before anyone else gets a stick up their butt about "MyLo" I'm going to preempt that by saying, "So what?" Scum can't quickhammer because there's a vigilante with another shot at play. Arguments about voting cautiously or being afraid of quickhammers here are dumb.

[TellTaleHeart]

Yes theoretically it means that a prepared scumteam could quickhammer

That would necessitate me not being on it.

*sigh*

I'm already annoyed.

[Drezi]

You're right I didn't think about the vig, so feel free cross the point about a potential quickhammer off the list.

[Drezi]

Yes theoretically it means that a prepared scumteam could quickhammer

That would necessitate me not being on it.

*sigh*

I'm already annoyed.

I'm talking from town!you POV obviously.

[Drezi]

That would necessitate me not being on it.

But I'm glad that you're automatically thinking of yourself as scum

[TellTaleHeart]

Yes, and that's what you're using as a reason for me being scum.

[Drezi]

Just a fun fact, and you're strawmanning again.

[TellTaleHeart]

That would necessitate me not being on it.

But I'm glad that you're automatically thinking of yourself as scum

...

I have no words.

[TellTaleHeart]

Just a fun fact, and you're strawmanning again.

Your whole argument is "You're not being cautious enough in MYLO." Like "MYLO" is some magical time where I

have

to have the scum team

really

nailed down before I can vote. I don't.

[Drezi]

Look go ahead and bus one of your buddies if you wanna do something here, no point being annoyed, of course you'd be annoyed. Your vote is still on ika, which is absolutely useless are there's not a single chance that we're lynching him today.

[Drezi]

Just a fun fact, and you're strawmanning again.

Your whole argument is "You're not being cautious enough in MYLO." Like "MYLO" is some magical time where I

have

to have the scum team

really

nailed down before I can vote. I don't.

I said strawman so many times that I'm starting to feel stupid, so please stop doing it. It's not my whole case, I'm pretty sure it's mainly based on PoE and everything else I see supporting it.

[TellTaleHeart]

(ika, Riabi, Nacho) or (ika, ABR, Nacho) scum teams make lots of sense, so your "PoE" is already flawed.

[House]

Care to provide a little analysis with all that information?

*tugs at sleeve*

A Rough VC Study

NJAC

- 6 - Always Mafia, Nachomamma8, Albert B. Rampage,

Sakura Hana

,

pisskop

, ika
ika - 4 - Drezi, Lalendra,

NJAC

, House

Metalcyanide

- 7 -

SIR CYANIDE

, Drezi,

Sakura Hana

, House,

pisskop

, Albert B. Rampage, ika
ika - 4 - VictorDeAngelo, Lalendra, Riabi,

Metalcyanide

Sakura Hana - 1 -

NJAC

Not Voting: Nachomamma8

The two lynch wagons from Days 1 and 2 are roughly the same. Four names show up on both those wagons (the majority). Contrast this to the ika counterwagon. The only name in common between the two days is Lalendra. Two different sets of people tried, and failed, to lynch ika on Days 1 and 2. You could argue that the scum team just rotated and different scum pushed the ika wagon, but I think that's unlikely and I think those wagon compositions are quite town.

Isn't it possible that Lalendra is scum on the ika wagon, camping out on it because it was pretty obvious that he wasn't going to be lynched?

[Nachomamma8]

I would also vote Nacho.

Why Nacho? I'm not sure if I agree or not.

VOTE: ika

Why are you voting Ika?

[Nachomamma8]

The push on NJAC and the defense of ika were extremely strained and absolutely terrible.

I didn't like NJAC's push on Ika and I didn't like how he defended from it: what was wrong about the push on him there?

My interactions with Ika yesterday totaled three days total: his quickhammer wasn't scummy and I disagree with pushing on him for being scum for lurking in a three day period.

[Nachomamma8]

A quick lead-off:
If anyone gives me attitude about how ika quick-hammering isn't a scumtell,

I'm going to hate your fucking guts

. That's all well and good that hammering is part of his meta. However, that's not what makes ika scum. He has a pretty clearly established meta with regards to activity and he's fairly easy to read just from that. His lurking and detachment from the game fit his scum meta to a T. ika is scum here.

Again, it seems like you're jumping the gun pretty hard when Ika has had the chance to post for four days total. I might be misinformed about how dramatic the scum/town posting ratios are, but even furcolow in his glory days wasn't an instant death read after four days of k ow posting.