New York 180 (Endgame)

[Kitz]

Scum already know who to shoot tho

Hypothetical question :

ABR is lynched.
Who's next?

[Aeronaut]

I don't get why people are including dead people in their lists, we already know their alignment, we don't need your input on if their scum or not.

Mathblade

acryon

: Scum, depending on ABR flip.

Kitz:

Pretty Town. Thinking Kitz is pretty town, just based off of her conversations and inquiries. She seems very organic.

Naked jogger

joker443

: Lean Scum. He doesn't really seem to be paying close attention to the game, and is just kind of voting with the wind. That D1 hammer was also gross.

Shinobi

TheFireRises

: Null. I don't know why, but I keep missing his posts. Not seeing a lot from him either way, I'd like to look at him tomorrow if possible.

Nobody special

croboss

:Null. Hasn't posted since Day 2. Post more.

dragonspawn

:

Scum, for reasons stated above, and I stand by my reasoning on him from day 1; Not a fan of how he sort of got away from a lynch by people saying that "looking scummy is his meta". To be honest, a lot of his posting is reminiscent of the Newbscum I see when I'm ICing newbie games. He needs rope.

SilverWolf:

Null, slight scum read. Starting to wonder here; Day 1, I'd bet money on SW being town, but more in more she's falling from the radar, going with the crowd. Basically, her play style has taken a full 180 this game, and I don't like it. Will be looking further into this matter.

elusive:

Town for reasons I'd like to not point out at this time.

Goodmorning

Grib

:Null. I said I was going to take a look back at grib, and I did. From what I see there, he was starting to look pretty sketchy; however, goodmorning's recent postings have seemed pretty town to me, just based on her having very similar opinions as me (which I know doesn't nessesarily make her town, by any means, but I feel like she's being logical enough for me to not want her lynched.)

Wake88:

Leaning scum. 80% of Wake's posting is complaining about how fast the game is, how he can't get a foothold, he's busy, etc. The other 20% is answering select questions that people ask him.

Ozgin

House

:Null, lurking. Another person who hasn't posted since D2. Please post.

T S O:

Nul. I play with T S O pretty often, but I'm actually having some trouble reading him this game. He's all over the place. Sort of makes me want to go check Masquerade for any similarities.

Cheetory6:

Null, maybe slight town read. Wasn't a fan of the ATE-esque posting going on during D2. Having said that, I also have a bit of reason to town read him because of ~ongoing~

Albert B. Rampage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYp9opLWz5o

FA_Q2:

Uh, Town, I think. Sort of under the radar.

[Aeronaut]

Scum already know who to shoot tho

Hypothetical question :

ABR is lynched.
Who's next?

I think it depends on flip.

I'm assuming he's flipping scum. In that case, I'd saw we look into Dragonspawn or Wake next. Maybe Ogzin too.

If he were to flip town, then for obvious reasons, we lynch Mathblade tomorrow. Actually, I feel like Mathblade could be scum in both scenarios, as the game likely has an SK or another faction at this point.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't hate you regardless.

I hate your blacklisting of me then.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I did what I did for reasons I thought were good; like Walter White, to some degree. Aeronaut, shut up and eat your cereal young man.

[Ozgin]

My Read List

(I will go back and ISO a few people again but here is where I am right now)

Spoiler:

Playerlist:
acryon* Mathblade - Acryon gave off town vibes, also I just liked him in general I hope he comes back. I've never played with a scum MB so I don't know that meta and her 3p meta was similar to town so lean town\unsure.
Kitz - Town. Just the mindset and questioning seems town.
joker443 Naked jogger - Lean scum. Was against the VF wagon which is interesting so that is my hesitation. Pisskop defending him and got on my case for defending him so soft connection there. *Jerk but that's not alignment related.
TheFireRises Shinobi - Need to ISO. Was mentioned by both VF and ABR and ABR tried to town firm him based on a lie and therefore that makes the slot in need of pressure. If ABR flips scum then we have strong leads.
croboss Nobody special - Accidentally slipped my role so lean town because scum wouldn't need to slip in thread.

GGG Pisskop

- Scum
dragonspawn - Generally people seem to excuse his seemingly bad or scummy play. Probably needs to be lynched for it so it gets its act together at some point but right now null.

Klingoncelt

SilverWolf - Isn't talking or doing as many reads as people discussing her meta have mentioned

elusive

- Tweet, tweet, tweet
Grib*Goodmorning - The replace confuzzled me. I am unsure on GM having read her wrong before. She can be diabolical as scum and as town seems more "lazy"
Wake88 - Wanted to trust\sheep this player early on. Not feeling it anymore.
Aeronaut - Has been under the radar so far.
House - Can't say why I think he's town although I feel lean town.
Ozgin - Scummy as fuck. Kept a vote on the KC wagon after I told it to take votes off wagons you aren't sure of and then the VF vote. I want it dead and in the grave.
T S O - Unsure, I thought lean town
Cheetory6 - Unsure, it was active lurking till prodded and needs to be more active.

Jared615 Ellie

- *Shimmers*

Boonskiies*

Doctor, had good instincts.
julianmolina13 ABR - The worstest. If we had a vig, do it now plz.
FA_Q2 - Lean scum due to it soft defending NJ or pisskop (need to reISO)

vikingfan

- Cop, killed for the stupidest reasons.

Cheetory6, I'm fine with an ABR death today but not until everyone posts in thread and we get some real content. I do not want to rush it.

Can you remind me where your vote was yesterday? Also, if its Normal then do you agree that everyone who thought or actively argued VF couldn't be the cop because of his doc heal claim is on something that is probably not Truthiness?

SilverWolf, move the game forward or I don't care what you think, feel, etc. ISO Ellie and tell me what you see.

>Votes KC because both wagons sucked but deadline was approaching and no-lynches would have just been disgustingly unfruitful.
>Votes VF because claim was shotty at best and I trusted ABR's play over yours
>iguessimscumnowlol.jpg

But seriously, I voted kc for the sake of progress and I voted vf because I genuinely believed ABR over him. So I was wrong once, and did what I thought best for the town before that. And that makes me "scummy as fuck"? Yeah, that makes

perfect sense.

--

ABR is at L-2.

I know I swore I would bring down the flaming gavel of injustice on ABR's head if viking flipped town. Don't get me wrong, I'm really pissed. But after reading the last few pages, and looking back to my own mistakes with the vf wagon, I really think ABR

might

be right in that we are rushing into things, but that could also be the urgent bargaining of a soon-to-be dead man.

So my issue with this game thus far has been the speed at which it develops -- Everyone is posting at the speed of god damn light and just throwing themselves at each other, leading charges against the whole fuckin' world when they can. These spontaneous wagons are doing us a lot worse than they're good for.

Even so, I'm still really angry at myself for trusting ABR over vf, but admittedly vf's claim fucking sucked. I'm not opposed to a hammer on ABR, but I think we need to look at the bigger picture in this game for a minute here. What if ABR was genuinely convinced vf was scum and, this may be shocking to some that it's even possible,

was wrong?

I know I know, it's hard to imagine yourself making a mistake, let alone others, but us humans are rather strange and tend to make such errors.

That being said,

if ABR ever goes L-1 I'm going to reserve the intent to hammer, because I will never forget what has happened with vf, now or in the future.

I don't even know if I can do that at L-2, but I'm doing it.

I will definitely look at the posts of everyone in the game and do the spoiler read list thingy that elusive is demanding, but life is a tad hectic. I just got a job, I start work tomorrow and my dog was dead by the time I came home today. But I promise you guys I'll get my head back into this game, I'm caught up as of right now, but I'll go back and do fuller reads of players and my current list of people sometime soon. For now, I have a few projects to work on for school, so I'm off for a little bit. I'll be back later in the evening.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ozgin don't vote me man. I trust you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Raymond Red Reddington made mistakes too and he got a second chance, and a third, and a fourth.

[T S O]

do they though gm?

PEdit: Good post, Ozgin.

[T S O]

ABR let's not get into counting your mistakes, there has been more than one.

[Aeronaut]

I did what I did for reasons I thought were good; like Walter White, to some degree. Aeronaut, shut up and eat your cereal young man.

You probably bought that cereal with your drug money >:[

[Albert B. Rampage]

I did what I did...for me...

[Albert B. Rampage]

I liked it. It made me feel alive.

[T S O]

I don't get why people are having such problems reading me this game - I don't particularly find that I'm playing that kamikaze. If you want, I can take you lot out for coffee and maybe cake before we inevitably all declare how Town I am.

[T S O]

See, this is why I think ABR is town! But what you did was SO BAD that it's splitting town down the middle!

[Albert B. Rampage]

I know...

[T S O]

Whoooah, how did it come to this
Ohhhh, love is a polaroid
Better in picture
But never can fill the void

[T S O]

Scum already know who to shoot tho

Hypothetical question :

ABR is lynched.
Who's next?

For lynch? Depends on his flip. If scum, idk. If town, MathBlade.

[SilverWolf]

Aero-Please spoiler all future reads lists. TIA

I put dead flips in my reads lists to help ananlyze the overall game state.

Not sure what you expect but I have a ton of posts in this game and was V/LA most of D2.

Why is almost everyone on your list a scumread?

[FA_Q2]

I was asking you a question.

...

No...


Were you expecting some other answer lol.

[goodmorning]

Scum already know who to shoot tho

Hypothetical question :

ABR is lynched.
Who's next?

For lynching?
Depends. I personally would like dragon, but I suspect that Wake would go down a bit better. FAQ and Ozgin are on my list of ??? as well.

Wake would likely be a bit cleared if ABR flipped Town though. If he flipped Tracker, Math.

do they though gm?

Probably.

If I were Scum I'd have enough info to carry out any one of several strategies.

I'm assuming they're not complete idiots.

See, this is why I think ABR is town! But what you did was SO BAD that it's splitting town down the middle!

I'm p sure everyone agrees it was p terrible.

Why is almost everyone on your list a scumread?

He's got like 5.5 out of what, 17? 18?

That's about how many Scum there are likely to be.

[T S O]

Well, you never know.

I did dislike your play when I said it, though. Any ideas why?

[goodmorning]

Well, you never know.

I did dislike your play when I said it, though. Any ideas why?

Are you asking me?

You said you disliked my play?

I don't remember this happening.

[elusive]

Lol TSO is funny.

Oz, what did KCs lynch tell you?

I think that I'm strongly starting to believe in no lynches for if.you aren't sure.of your reads.

If Mathblade is sk and is open to direction we don't have to kill her right off.

We can have her target scummiest people.
it might give town a chance against the scums.

[elusive]

Mb as third party has helped town before.