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Post Post #39800 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:25 am

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In post 39799, Iecerint wrote:His damage is super strong when he gets TF.

He's safer than other champions who also get really strong with TF in the midgame (Kog, Corki).

I think he used to be crowded out by Corki, but I think the balance is better after Corki's W mana cost was changed.


Congratulations, you have an ADC that does LESS DAMAGE than EVERY OTHER MIDGAME ADC at midgame, and makes up for it with a dash that costs almost as much mana as Corki's W.

So we have an ADC that:

  1. Does no damage for an ADC
  2. VERY High skillcap
  3. Low impact (Can steal dragon... so can most ADCs)
  4. Is extremely mobile
  5. Is mediocre at best in every phase
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Post Post #39801 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:29 am

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He's been played mid more than ADC in NA and EU lately (while still building AD or blue).

My guess is that you're trying to play him like a Graves, since that is the ADC you typically play.
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Post Post #39802 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:35 am

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Re: Corki W/Ez E, Ezreal's E cooldown is the major differentiating factor I think in addition to the mana cost, especially because Ezreal will max it second rather than third.

Ezreal has the build flexibility to bring utility with IBG and apply it at 1100 range, useful depending upon what the rest of your team pick and how the game is going. This is probably the most distinguishing characteristic vs. other champions in the ADC position.
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Post Post #39803 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:49 am

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It's not me trying to play Ezreal, it's every solo queue Ezreal every being utterly worthless.
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Post Post #39804 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:06 pm

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In post 39784, mykonian wrote:Probably none of you care, but there's some reddit hate on Riot's recent move to increase RP costs in none USA regions (in a response to recent developments in exchange rates). People see a 10% increase and then complain how between the regions the cost for RP is simply not the same and hasn't been before. Which is impossible anyway, but maybe there's some fair criticism there. Regardless it stinks for anyone involved. In a span of just months, Riot has seen an effective decrease of their EU revenue by 25-30%, since I assume they write their results in dollars. That is rough. So they decide to share the pain a little bit, take the hit in possible sales perhaps. For EU, RP is in practice something you are importing from a US based company... the euro gets cheaper, importing costs more.

All in all, it's not ideal, but it's understandable...


One problem i have (this may only cover OCE) is that everyone is complaining, yet we actually STILL have a better rate then converting and buying in USD.

It was always a move that was gonna get some hate, and honestly on OCE boards we have more people willing to defend the move then attack it.

The one thing i honestly believe though, is that if the USD>everywhere else's currency exchange went in the other direction, we wouldn't have seen any increase in RP/decrease in cost's etc.
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Post Post #39805 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:16 pm

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In post 39802, Iecerint wrote:Re: Corki W/Ez E, Ezreal's E cooldown is the major differentiating factor I think in addition to the mana cost, especially because Ezreal will max it second rather than third.

Ezreal has the build flexibility to bring utility with IBG and apply it at 1100 range, useful depending upon what the rest of your team pick and how the game is going. This is probably the most distinguishing characteristic vs. other champions in the ADC position.


Ez also has a very good siege kit. When Ez is with your team on siege you get super long range poke, attack speed buff for everyone if your team gets to turret, an ad carry really hard to flash-initiate on, and an ult that secures kills on people who get low from poke.

He's just weird and someone who wants to play all ad carries "by the book" won't like Ez. His commitment patterns are a lot stranger than the norm.
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Post Post #39806 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:14 pm

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He's one of the few ADCs that can survive vs a dive heavy comp

That is why I pick him, when my team has piss poor peels and I build him blue
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Post Post #39807 (ISO) » Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:40 pm

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Re: Ezreal

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends. ... 1/44390207


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Post Post #39808 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:50 am

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Post Post #39809 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:57 am

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Ezreal is a midlaner. You all are doing it wrong
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Post Post #39810 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:58 am

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Ezreal is an every laner. He's the best.
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Post Post #39811 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:19 am

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Post Post #39812 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:42 pm

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Ezreal bot is kind of bad because Ezreal is actually an ad poke mage who wants level advantage.
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Post Post #39813 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:14 pm

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That's why you just kill the enemy and then you have level advantage. Boom.

Basically my answer to every Ezreal discussion is either "I don't care, play better" or "I don't care, play worse people than you" or "i don't care he wears a green hoodie" depending on who I'm talking to.
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Post Post #39814 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:20 pm

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but is ezreal gay
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Post Post #39815 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:30 pm

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Objection your honor

That question is irrelevent in the case of "Is ezreal the best champion in league of legends?" And the answer is yes, except for jinx. But jinx is in here own category based on her unrivaled awesomeness compared to the field. It's like trying to rate any sports nickname against "The Korean Zombie" or any current college basketball team against Kentucky. The discussion really starts at 2 and you toss 1 out because it's the obvious and unrivaled answer.
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Post Post #39816 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:03 pm

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Sigh so many strong champs right now I feel like whatever I don't ban just gets picked and wreck with :/

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Post Post #39817 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:49 pm

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The problem i have is when the first pick on the enemy team is clearly just picking their champs counters and i'm just sitting here like.

"Now do i ban the champ he clearly wants, or do i go with another OP pick?"

I feel they need to up the bans immediately, and quit fucking champs over cause that just lessens the "these champs are likely to stomp the game cause we nerfed their counters."
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Post Post #39818 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:57 pm

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i got stomped by an ashe in ranked last night because our jinx and leona fed her 8 kills in 8 minutes. and i'm just sitting here wondering why people still think counters even matter.
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Post Post #39819 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:08 pm

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I just ban the champ they are clearly doing for laughs, the amount of dodges i have had with one ban is beautiful.
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Post Post #39820 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:52 pm

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In post 39818, Nikanor wrote:i got stomped by an ashe in ranked last night because our jinx and leona fed her 8 kills in 8 minutes. and i'm just sitting here wondering why people still think counters even matter.

Don't counters only really matter once you're at a high enough level that really knowing how well your champ works at all stages of a game is paramount? (aka when you're at, like diamond level. Or plat. whichever is right below Master/Challenger.)
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Post Post #39821 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:12 pm

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In the vast majority of cases, counters are irrelevant at MS level of play. There are very few matchups that are so horribly miserable that you want to avoid them if you're actually strong on a champ. Basically if you know what in a matchup counters you, you can learn how to play in that matchup. Once you hit diamond however, it's expected that your opponent is very much aware that his champ counters yours and wont misplay.

The best example I have is Annie vs Talon. You shouldn't win that matchup as Talon, Annie has a longer AA range than all your skills and if you dare engage she can stun and combo you before you can retaliate.
However, every Annie at my ELO (high gold) just Q spams the minion waves, effectively removing the stun threat if you just keep tabs of her pyro stacks.
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Post Post #39822 (ISO) » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:55 pm

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In post 39821, dramonic wrote:
However, every Annie at my ELO (high gold) just Q spams the minion waves, effectively removing the stun threat if you just keep tabs of her pyro stacks.


And here i am only ever doing this when i know that the opponent no longer has kill pressure (just burned a couple of needed spells)

Like every leblanc i have vs'd as annie, they will use their W to farm the wave, then i will happily cycle through the 4 minions i want to get my stun again.

I would have thought that by high gold that would have been a known thing though.
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Post Post #39824 (ISO) » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:49 am

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