Long term health of mafiascum

[Junpei]

I stopped posting here because so many people don't take it seriously so then I said to myself "wait... why am I spending months per game taking it seriously when I get into a game with somebody who acts like SK aka a VI all the time".

Mafia used to only attract people who wanted a mental challenge but then the community grew and it became just a fun place to be and attracted people who don't care about intellectual growth.

disclaimer: idk if SK is still a shitposter or not but at least a few years ago he was and I swear if it wasn't him in my games it was somebody else. I think I had 2 good games on this site with no shit posters and I used to play a lot.

[Junpei]

Stop joining games with shitty playerlists, then. You can have a challenging game while still having fun if you play with the right people.

I agree with this. The game is supposed to be fun and intellectual at the same time, that's what makes it so appealing.

#UnbanMajiffy2k15

It's hard because I also won't play with hydras. I think that they're fundamentally compromising to the game (not that you can't figure out if they're mafia still it's like bad controls in a video game it's not an extra challenge it's just frustratingly annoying).

Anyway not to complain anymore but back when I knew most of the community it was hard to find a good game but now that I dont' know most of the people here it's impossible without taking a nose dive

[Junpei]

Why can't you just ask the moderator to kick the undesirables and not allow hydras?

Wisdom of the Crowds is a thing.

Anti-hydra sentiment is also a thing.

I know, I haven't had to play with hydra's typically (except 1 time a mod let one sub in, and we had to let him play cuz well you know how replacements are/were on here).

And tbh I'm also quite annoyed by chronic lurkers. My own opinions aren't enough to convince a moderator to wait extra long for their game to fill so that everyone who has a history of lurking/trolling doesn't join. Most people in my experience don't care that much.

Majiffy, sometimes the world is right and sometimes the world is wrong. In this specific case, I think that mafiascum should be a more serious place. But if people disagree with that then who am I to say that it shouldn't? That's why I stopped playing.

tbh i feel like i sound much more annoyed about this than I am. I don't really mind, I am tolerant that people on this site want ot play a certain way for the most part. I just don't want to participate.

[Junpei]

forum mafia afaik originated on greylabirinth

at the very least this site was spawned from GL I know 100%

and the reason i joined this site was because there were no other alternatives for an active forum mafia community. And there's no serious mafia games being played with any skill anywhere else. There really was zero legit competition for this site a few years ago. I'm not sure if that has changed or not.

[Junpei]

I think Junpei should make a thread where he explains just what skillful mafia play consists of.

actively participating, not quoting a post and say "hmm this is scummy.." "why?" "its my gut feeling"

no shit posts (if you need to know what a shitpost is i can point you to some of my past games - I've encountered some epic town shitposters.

there's a lot of things that maek you a shit mafia player. MoI and Regfan were two of the best players on this site, and they used structured arguments founded on good reasoning. Using well grounded reasoning and being able to differentiate between red herrings and truth = good mafia player.

In general if you're an illogical nerdy mess in real life (Majiffy can describe this type of person a lot more I'm sure) you will suck at this game.

[Junpei]

obvious, spastic, behavior:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p4217088
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4217144
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4217251

Slightly subtle, neuro-defecient behavior:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4019453
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4042081

For more subtle shitposting think crypto, foreseencircumstance, etc

[Junpei]

Faraday: MoI probably stopped caring for the same reason I stopped caring.

Bookitty: I already have said in this thread that I'm not saying that more serious mafia player is RIGHT, I just said that it is what I prefer. And since it is not the way anyone here really plays anymore, I don't like to play here. Next person to repeat Bookitty's sentiment isn't getting a response since that would be the third time.

[Junpei]

TIL shitposting isn't objectively bad

depends if you play for an intellectual challenge/to win or if you play to jerk off and "have fun" on a forum

[Junpei]

the idea of creating a meta (let alone based on being a spastic neurotic fuck) is just sad. It's not like Om and the people he's playing with are so godlike at mafia that the art of the game has now come down to peoples' personal metas. In other words having a certain 'meta' doesn't do anything... at that point its just a fake personality you use and its only effect on the game is how much of a shitposter you are going to be. It seems like a lot of the newer/younger players who aren't very good were always talking about meta. As if it was actually significant.

Good players don't have to worry about their meta, and good players don't have to think about other peoples' meta. I don't mean regfan good, I mean at least decent at mafia good. Om was spamming the game thread that game, and it is not justifiable. It's just obnoxious, it's the kind of thing that people policy lynch early on just to be able to have a more mature conversation

[Junpei]

good play
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

bad play
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

good play
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

bad play
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

I don't know why people seem to think that serious, logical play = following a mechanical flow chart. Mafia isn't the first 10 moves of a chess game.