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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:04 am

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Meanwhile, Ian is secretly in a relationship with Mandy's neighbourhood thug brother, Mickey.


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(4): shos, Toon Fighter, Aneninen, Alchemist21
(L-1)

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Not Voting
(2): TierShift, droog

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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: (expired on 2015-03-23 22:00:00)

Toon Figher is V/LA until Tuesday
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:07 pm

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In post 621, Alchemist21 wrote:She's been pushing this nameclaiming business the whole time, but for some reason didn't bother volunteering her own nameclaim. Hell, it's almost like she's certain the game can be broken by flavor, because I don't see other methods of scumhunting from her. Who else but scum could be certain of a thing like that?

^ this is scum!!!!!


I have been pushing name claims doesn't make me scum. Your accusation have no logic.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:29 pm

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In post 622, TierShift wrote:Why would she not volunteer her own nameclaim if she was scum?


I think Shos already brought this up, but it could be because scum don't have safeclaims and AA wanted to know who's not in the game.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:32 pm

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In post 626, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 621, Alchemist21 wrote:She's been pushing this nameclaiming business the whole time, but for some reason didn't bother volunteering her own nameclaim. Hell, it's almost like she's certain the game can be broken by flavor, because I don't see other methods of scumhunting from her. Who else but scum could be certain of a thing like that?

^ this is scum!!!!!


I have been pushing name claims doesn't make me scum. Your accusation have no logic.


Then why push it so much and withold your own claim like you did? I don't like the way you went about it at all. It looks a lot like scum fishing around for information.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:08 pm

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In post 617, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 610, droog wrote:yesterday you suspected shos
today you switched to me and christmas
and now you put a wagon at l-1????


So I' m scum for... What exactly? Playing the game?



nice try
i didnt call yous cum
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:17 pm

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i called you out for being inconsistent
so you have a few options

you could take a step back
explain why youve been inconsistent

you could deny being inconsistent
but hell even if inconsistent isnt the right word
you know what i mean

you could explain your reads

you could put words in my mouth

you could take back your vote
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"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:17 pm

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me though im fanstastic
finished two weeks worh of work tonight : )
its good to be back
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"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:20 pm

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what are you guys doing for the weekend
((besides playing mafia, im sure))
"...probably the worst player I have had the pleasure of playing with in the last ten years..."
"i dislike this guy immensely"
"the worst townie that ever I have ever had the misfortune to play with, by a long shot"
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:47 pm

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Town - arc, droog

Tiershift

Anen
Toon

Scum - shos, alchemist
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:47 pm

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I'm going shopping this weekend
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:41 pm

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In post 621, Alchemist21 wrote:She's been pushing this nameclaiming business the whole time, but for some reason didn't bother volunteering her own nameclaim. Hell, it's almost like she's certain the game can be broken by flavor, because I don't see other methods of scumhunting from her. Who else but scum could be certain of a thing like that?

Okay, here I am again, one read later.

I absolutely hate arcangel's continued use of only nameclaims to scumhunt. I gave my flavour asap and most (or all?) of the people have by now. I did this in the hopes she would turn towards real scumhunting instead of being hung up over this. This has not happened, but she
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she scumhunts while using flavour as a complement, but this is simply not true. She only uses flavour and doesn't even know what to do with it. Despite that, she keeps using it. It reeks of scum motivation and avoiding saying something useful, while making yourself 'conftown' because of claim.

So, consider this an intent to hammer, which will only happen after I finish my reading. Please claim, arc.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:05 pm

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Okay, so here's my alchemist read:
I had him as strong town day 1, due to his and his knack for resolving arguments. I especially like .
But his day 2 consists of doing pretty much nothing. He first sheeps shos and then comes to arcangel with a pretty weak vote. I do like that his reads change without him really explaining every step inbetween (trajectory, I can elaborate on this if someone wants).

All in all, town, but with *some* reservations. Can I see some reads out of ya, alch?
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:13 pm

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How does droog have so many posts @@

Uhm, okay, I'm not even going to pretend I read all of his posts since I absolutely cannot read through his posting style (might want to change that?). Anyway, he's doing that thing he does as town where he keeps asking questions and not really push people based off of it. Stuff like and make me think he's town.
I'm not gonna do more research and call this town for now
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:16 pm

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This christmas
I like that he is drawing his own plan. That's about it. His reads are somewhat stale. uhhhhh, I really thought I'd have more to say about this slot. Can you talk to me about your reads?
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:20 pm

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Toon Fighter ISO just screams town. Do not ever lynch this, please. I gotta look why he was wagoned ever
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:25 pm

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Ah, yes. Anen and arcangel just jump on it as soon as it gains traction and jump off as soon as it loses just thst without saying anything. Feeling preeeeettttty good about this.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:30 pm

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God, reading the anen ISO makes me mad that he's not dead yet. You DO NOT STILL THINK SOMEONE SLIPPED AND THUS IS 100% SCUM AND NOT PURSUE THAT.

It's just not fucking possible.
That is all.
VOTE: anen
My intent to hammer on arcangel still stands; they're probably the scumteam. I'm much more confident in anen though, because read this post. Can we get an anen wagon going?
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:33 pm

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In post 630, droog wrote:i called you out for being inconsistent
so you have a few options

you could take a step back
explain why youve been inconsistent

you could deny being inconsistent
but hell even if inconsistent isnt the right word
you know what i mean

you could explain your reads

you could put words in my mouth

you could take back your vote


Having fluid reads isn't being inconsistent. Just because I change a vote doesn't mean I've completely dropped a read. However, at yours and Tiershift's request I will provide a reads list.

In post 636, TierShift wrote:Okay, so here's my alchemist read:
I had him as strong town day 1, due to his and his knack for resolving arguments. I especially like .
But his day 2 consists of doing pretty much nothing. He first sheeps shos and then comes to arcangel with a pretty weak vote. I do like that his reads change without him really explaining every step inbetween (trajectory, I can elaborate on this if someone wants).

All in all, town, but with *some* reservations. Can I see some reads out of ya, alch?


My strongest Townread is Anen. I know people don't like his tunneling on Tier, but he's shown paranoia about it that I'm pretty sure comes from Town because I've been there plenty of times before. (Seriously though, Anen you do need to ease up and focus elsewhere. At least consider where you reads will be at if Tier flips Town.)

Shos is a Townread of mine now, partly because of his gunsmith claim, but more because he has the same idea about the Tier wagon that I do. I'm seeing things more his way in regards to the flavorclaiming, and I'm sure if he hadn't been forced to claim yesterday he would be refusing to nameclaim now too.

Tiershift is another Townread because of that EoD wagon. Like I said before I'm sure scum would have liked that lynch pushed because he was V/LA and couldn't defend himself.

Droog/This Christmas are the ones I feel are the scum candidates on the Tier wagon by the nature of how they joined the wagon (no explanation for voting a V/LA player is super scummy). It actually doesn't help that they're both breathing down my meck right now. (Inb4 omgus accusations)

AA9 is a scumread for the reasons I've already given. She's almost certain the game can be broken in some manner by flavorclaiming. I think she wants the nameclaims because she can match them to PRs, so this is a form of rolefishing from her. It might not be so bad if there was an attempt tohunt with other means as well, but she's been super focused on the flavor claims here.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:39 pm

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In post 639, TierShift wrote:Toon Fighter ISO just screams town. Do not ever lynch this, please. I gotta look why he was wagoned ever


Can you elaborate here please? I'm having trouble reading him because I don't get a feel one way or the other from his posts.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:39 pm

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Tiershift,

I've explained a couple of times that I stopped pushing you because noone seemed to have agreed with me about the slip you made.

On Day1 everyone suggested me stopping talking about the slip and starting to get other reads. I've been doing so since the late-phase of Day1. I've been called scum because of my case against ToonFighter. I've been called scum because of joining the ArcAngel wagon – no matter that I posted the SAME about his name-claim push as Alchemist and TierShift.
It seems that I'm scummy regardless of my posts and actions. What's that? A collective Regardless Of Card?

Post-edit: I haven't read Alchemist's recent post.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:45 pm

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Okay. Let me try this again with a question.

I am town and I am 100% sure someone is scum by virtue of scumslip. Other players don't see this. What do I do:
A. Ignore the slip and vote the biggest wagons
B. Keep pushing until I get the player lynched

Next question:
I am scum and fake a scumslip on a certain player. Other people don't see this and it will be hard for me to get the player lynched. What do I do:
A. Ignore the slip and vote the biggest wagons
B. Keep pushing until I get the player lynched
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:47 pm

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In post 643, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 639, TierShift wrote:Toon Fighter ISO just screams town. Do not ever lynch this, please. I gotta look why he was wagoned ever


Can you elaborate here please? I'm having trouble reading him because I don't get a feel one way or the other from his posts.

A few highlights: early game push against anen, having the same reasoning as me for voting arcangel (608). What do you see that makes him scum?
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:52 pm

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The fact that he's still arguing with me while he "knows" I'm scum only seals the deal.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:52 pm

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In post 646, TierShift wrote:
In post 643, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 639, TierShift wrote:Toon Fighter ISO just screams town. Do not ever lynch this, please. I gotta look why he was wagoned ever


Can you elaborate here please? I'm having trouble reading him because I don't get a feel one way or the other from his posts.

A few highlights: early game push against anen, having the same reasoning as me for voting arcangel (608). What do you see that makes him scum?


Nothing. I just get no vibes either way for him.

On a related note, I completely missed Anen's case on TF, so I'll take a look at that, your reason for Town TF, and reread TF's posts to see if I can get a read on him.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:58 pm

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Respond to me re: anen

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