New York 182 - Game Over

[Varsoon]

ugh.
trying to wrap head around possible townVarsoon thought process here.

you hate claims right? why would you fake a claim when you hate the use of them so much and why wouldnt you try and dismantle momentum on your wagon through play before resorting to something so ridiculous?

Because the site-meta is built around giving claims this big huge preference over literally everything else.
You're right, I probably should have tried dismantling the momentum otherwise, but I've tried that in other games and people just insist I'm flailing and shit. I don't handle my own wagons well. :/


@Thor:
I'll provide links in a hot second.
I didn't like Anti's push on me independent of the claim stuff.
Forcing a claim from me is dumb at this point--no one will believe it anyway and it just informs scum. No.
Thinking I look scummy is literally the easiest play to make right now. Challenge yourself.
I think that Sakura and Silverdog are really awkward, and that there is almost absolutely scum in the people who were on my wagon. I don't think Marquis is scum. I'm feeling gut against Anti but logic says he's in the right.

[Gorkington]

ill address some other points but lets talk about this first:

you are scum

I said based on what I have seen of your play you are an excellent PL target, not that I am convinced you are scum, that's BS number 1.

is this a lie or are you being abstract and indirect about whatever it is youre talking about

[Antihero]

holy shit lol

UNVOTE:

[copper223]

Did you seriously just take a part of a post I used when quoting your logic for scumreading me and attribute it to myself in regards to you out of context?

[Flubbernugget]

You fuckers blew this game up

[Thor665]

It's definitely wrong for starters, now I can decide if it's scum wrong or just wrong.

Proceed.

How do you divine this conclusion?

You're saying his playstyle was, functionally, dumb for scum to ever do because it was dangerous.
And surmise that he would not play that was as scum and have a totally different playstyle?

Do you see any trace of the mirror estimation in your summary? I thought not, so I don't need to divine anything.

Yes you do - you need to explain why you are able to puzzle out that he wouldn't play in that method as scum - which is what your townread of him is based upon.

Thinking I look scummy is literally the easiest play to make right now. Challenge yourself.

This is one of the most magical defenses I have ever seen.

[Gorkington]

You keep attributing emotional states to me to justify your points which you have no clue about, you said I was angry, coy, not passionate enough, I am sure there is some other nonsense in your ISO, where are you getting these information from?

you find me annoying. is it much of a stretch to say that you were at least annoyed when you made your response to me
is it incredibly outrageous for someone to call annoyed play==angry play?
you were absolutely playing coy when you said you wouldnt respond to serious questions.
and you weren't being passionate with trying to push for me. how you could even argue that is questionable at best.

[Gorkington]

Did you seriously just take a part of a post I used when quoting your logic for scumreading me and attribute it to myself in regards to you out of context?

this is what happens when you dont clarify when people ask you to.
silly.

[Varsoon]

META NONSENSE THAT YOU'LL CONVENIENTLY DISREGARD BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT BAD TOWN DOES AND GOOD SCUM GETS AWAY WITH:

Hip Hop Mafia, where I was a town-sided JOAT. I came into the game with a quick-hammer, fake-claimed a Dayvig, then got run up for it all. I actually constantly confuse Thor and RECKONER because maybe they have similar avatars or maybe they both have a real aggressive no-nonsense playstyle. RECKONER is a lot more cruel in his rhetoric, though.
Advance Wars Upick, where I was a town-sided PR and I messed up on d1 and full-claimed in my neighborhood and they all thought I was scum-slipping and thinking my neighborhood was a scumhood. Turns out that a lot of the people in my neighborhood were actual scum members and they pushed through my mislynch instead of forgiving the honest mistake.

[Thor665]

@Gorkinton
No empty threat mate, the way you are approaching the game with those cookie cutter scumreads, you are scum because you post a smile, clearly buddying up, you are scum because you answered the question, clearly overexplaining, you are scum because you scumread me back and I am an easy lynch because I was being mean, clearly scum looking for an easy lynch, without any kind of analysis or thought about what the actual content of the posts is and what other different (and I think well explained) motivations I had is useless and dangerous town to leave around or scum looking for superficially scummy BS, either way you are not going to help me win.

@Gork

Cooper sucks. Sure.
You suck worse for the misrep - I'm on his side on that point.

[Gorkington]

i didnt know what the heck he was talking about in that post.
his own fault for not clarifying when i asked him to.

[Varsoon]

I'm such a shit as town in bigger games.
I'll answer whatever you guys ask and, if it appeases you, I'll even stay away from wagons and such.
I realize that I've pretty much compromised my slot, but I want to play it through and I think it's nonsense to just lynch me right now.

[elusive]

Thor, who is my bud? Also I like your brother Loki better, he can dance.
will answer point by point when not phoning it in.

Also lol if you think varsoon is my bud but he.does get plus points for playing the q and a. Only the scums and the less fortunate refuse to be friendly.

[Gorkington]

grrrr.
people make me angry.
now i know how people feel when they play with me.
grrrrrr.

[Thor665]

META NONSENSE THAT YOU'LL CONVENIENTLY DISREGARD BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT BAD TOWN DOES AND GOOD SCUM GETS AWAY WITH:

Hip Hop Mafia, where I was a town-sided JOAT. I came into the game with a quick-hammer, fake-claimed a Dayvig, then got run up for it all. I actually constantly confuse Thor and RECKONER because maybe they have similar avatars or maybe they both have a real aggressive no-nonsense playstyle. RECKONER is a lot more cruel in his rhetoric, though.
Advance Wars Upick, where I was a town-sided PR and I messed up on d1 and full-claimed in my neighborhood and they all thought I was scum-slipping and thinking my neighborhood was a scumhood. Turns out that a lot of the people in my neighborhood were actual scum members and they pushed through my mislynch instead of forgiving the honest mistake.

Advance Wars feels like a bad example.
I accept Hip Hop as a potential example.

That said, a simple question;
Do you fakeclaim as scum when under pressure?

[Antihero]

i think i want to vote pisskop now

VOTE: pisskop

[Thor665]

Thor, who is my bud?

Choof.

[Thor665]

PS. Copper is town because he looked up choof's one complete game on here and saw that he was town and accurately described his meta. So copper reads town to me unless Many Extreme Things.

I mean, and you say this - so I thought you might have an opinion on Copper's take on how scum Choof would play.
It's sort of a discussion, y'know?

[Gorkington]

gosh this is just bullshizzle.
copper refuses to explain his apparent non-scumread on me and then says im ridiculous for assuming that he was scumreading me when he wouldnt explain what he was talking about when i asked.
gosh.
gosh gosh gosh.
i probably deserve this for being a jerk but still. gosh.

[Thor665]

i didnt know what the heck he was talking about in that post.
his own fault for not clarifying when i asked him to.

He wasn't saying what you implied he was saying - that's pretty obvious methinks.

[Varsoon]

Typically, I'm given a fake-claim as scum from the mod, but I don't think I've really ever had to use those.
In Touhou Mafia, in Calvin & Hobbes, and in Xenogears, I used my actual claim for leverage in places, but I don't recall fake-claiming in any closed-setup games as scum, especially not under pressure.

[Gorkington]

copcop, walk me through that last paragraph one more time except take a breath in between each sentence.

you are funny I'll admit, I am not answering on purpose until you fix your form of address to others.

hi thor. this exchange happened.

[copper223]

@Gork

Cooper sucks. Sure.
You suck worse for the misrep - I'm on his side on that point.

You are probably scum.

[Gorkington]

curses.
i think i was just being a dufus here.
im sorry copper i will probably need to reread you now that i actually follow your breathless paragraph better now. please forgive me for my sins.

[copper223]

@Gorkinton
That is the best possible demonstration of my PL case on you, you are not reading the content of the posts (I ment in the sense of thinking about it but apparently literally as well) but instead trying to buzzword them into something scummy using frankly underhanded strategies like attributing emotional states to me in order to justify your statements.