In post 430, ploben wrote:
NJAC was looking more and more like a policy lynch. I disagree with your views on policy lynches and it's now funny that you jumped off NJAC after my vote for you but you seem to be happy with a policy lynch today so I have to ask why did you jump of NJAC?
I also don't like your
132 at all. I think this thought process is a great way for scum to push a mislynch. I think enough happens D1 that you don't just need to remove "dead weight". Even if there's a mislynch D1, if you lynch a player that provided content you can use that info in D2. If you lynch a player that was dead weight with no content you get nothing from the flip and you just reduced the number of town, so a double whammy.
NJAC was my target for lynch due to his uselessness, his stalling, and just overall crap of a game. I placed my vote on him because I didn't like him trying to keep RVS going, and because he wasn't scum hunting. I removed my vote because he's replacing out. I had nothing but playstyle as a reason for my vote on NJAC. Assuming playstyle between two players will be different, that slot no longer needs my vote until the next person comes in and gives me either the same reason to vote them, or a new one. But perhaps they won't give me a reason at all? I don't know yet.
In post 431, talah wrote: In post 410, ChriVi wrote:
talah please stop being useless with your vote and make a case on me or make a case on someone else and put your vote there
Ehhh - I never promised to make a case on you, my vote's on you because
I'm yet to
I was yet to see anything particularly useful or townish from you. I will admit I'm getting pretty bored with my vote here but your obstinance in wanting my vote off you is making me want to persist.
Still - I can see a bit of motivation with your voting. It's not as random as it seems.
UNVOTE: ChriVi
You know what - my next line under that unvote was a vote for NJAC. But then I look at the gamestate and both you and Kaboose have just unvoted him on the slightest twinges of pressure and I'm liking ploben's moxy. I also like the wagon composition, and it's getting late in the day. Well maybe I have some misgivings about oddmusic, but still.
VOTE: Kaboose
In post 399, Kaboose wrote:My 334 was not suggesting we should just go ahead and do it(although we should just go ahead and do it because as far as I'm concerned he keeps lying to us with his "i'm getting to it now" and because he's been useless imo) but it was more of a question as to why they would want to be closer to deadline to figure out the lynch. It felt like stalling to me, and it also makes me so angry when a game gets close to deadline and someone gets to L-1 and then that someone claims something that causes everyone to second guess everything so unvotes start happening and then scum know even more before we learn anything if it's a town L-1 claim. That's why I asked about them wanting to use the entire deadline.
It shouldn't be looked at as "We are lynching someone at this time" because that's just as bad an a misinformed lynch to put a deadline on it. I feel a more town way of thinking is "lynch when you have a good lynch"
NJAC is a good lynch to me.
Is it scummy to support a lynch? Because you're telling me it is.
What happened between these two posts?
See above.
In post 434, Netherspite wrote:
I didn't like
Kaboose
's wagon initially and then comes this.
@Kaboose
Why did you feel the need to unvote here?
See above the above.
In post 436, davesaz wrote:
I have a better question for you: why are you town? Can you point to legitimate scum hunting?
Here's what I feel as town. D1 is informationless until D2. NJAC has provided us the least amount of information to this point and if he's scum or not him being alive tomorrow wouldn't allow us anything to go off of. His lynch today means we go in to D2 with that much better of a chance of communicating with the people who actually participated in D1. THAT will give us more information.
Look at it this way. We don't lynch NJAC, and we lynch me. D2 comes and NJAC will surely still be alive even if he's town because why would the scum NK someone who hasn't done anything? D2 starts up and we're all looking at stuff to talk about.
"NJAC, why did your read on such and such change... Oh wait you didn't have a read. Why did your opinion on such and such differ... Oh wait you didn't have an opinion..."
However the rest of us have had our opinions and thoughts about NJAC shared because we've been here. We lynch him today and look at all the information we'll have to analyze tomorrow. That slot as town is definitely dead weight that scum most certainly want around on D2 because that will give all of us less.
I also am of the opinion that you want the more active players alive going forward because when it comes down to it the more content someone has the better chance you have of catching them in a lie. If you catch someone in a lie what do you most likely catch?
I don't want to(and it looks like I'd be the lynch if not NJAC almost I guess I dunno) but assuming I'm alive somehow tomorrow... I wouldn't want to waste my time ISOing the nothing that's in NJAC's ISO.
I also want to point out now that davesez isn't asking me to point out scum hunting of mine in the sense that he thinks I'll be able to find some for him to look at. He's asking a rhetorical question to call me out on what he believes to be a lack of scum hunting. Which is funny that he wants to use that as a reason to push my lynch, when I'm less guilty of it than... Oh I don't know... NJAC? So davesez would rather lynch me for not scum hunting than NJAC for not scum hunting. Cute.
Either way I'd like to see what the replacement is like in that slot before I probably cast another vote.
