Mini 1649: Jabberwocky Mafia (Game Over)

[Elbirn]

Titus I have literally no idea what you're trying to say to us.

Also, I want a Beli lynch, but is it really a good idea for you to hammer him with 11 days left on the clock?

[Titus]

Good. After scum kill me it will be obvious. It makes sense after my death.

I do think that the suicide was done after kill prevented as FAQ2 suggested.

[Titus]

I am not sure about how I feel about him suggesting that theory but it fits...

[hi im Yakko]

interviews, drug tests, cats amenities, laziness.
what are things that keep me from posting.

I was thinking

tier
elbrin
brantz

yesterday.

The Axle scum flip To that I say meh. Just more work for me have to read his ISO I was mostly ignoring him because of his posts didn't understand a single thing he was trying to say. Good tactic I guess. whatever he's in hell now.

Do my reads change atm no(maybe?) I need to catch up. From what I've seen tier is posting like he's invested in the game. I wonder what changed. Town points I guess elbrin idk his posting style slightly changed as well but I didn't feel natural. that's all so far.

[hi im Yakko]

VOTE: Elbrin

forgot to do this.

[TierShift]

Why was axle's posting style 'extremely' disgusting? I don't remember any disgust over it - just the sentiment that he was hard to read.

Have you actually tried reading his posts?
Right, it's fucking impossible.

UNVOTE:
I want to chat with beli first

[Titus]

Elbrin's most likely town barring roleblockers.

[FA_Q2]

Notes titus still dodging questions and forgets Mollie counter point when I voted titus start of day 1 noted.

Notes sudden either or with no explaination.

Scum titus confirmed

Vote: beli

Put your money where your mouth is titus.

Let me get this straight, you scum read titus and VM but not beli and then vote for beli based on the fact titus keeps pushing you for it? That makes absolutely zero sense.

FoS far for this.

Titus is pushing one read over the other for no reason.
Scum together is my theory

But how is axel flip give beli town points....at all

The axel flip does not. There were 2 flips and beli was actively disagreeing with the town flip. Does that make him town - no - but it certainly does not lead credence to the idea that he is scum. This is particularly true when much of the case against him was centered around the idea that BR was scum.

I have asked for the beli case already. For the most part it was ignored. What was posted is one heck of a weak case. This wagon fired right up and we were on the verge of hammering with TONS of time left. A bad idea for town given the fact that this is day 2 when gathering info is pretty critical.

[Titus]

You can help by voting.

[Valkyrie Mollie]

I am solving the game. I think you and/or Beli are scum. Beli wagon took off so I voted you.

Mollie is not defending me.

Mollie's mindfucked due to Hilariously unbalanced.

I do not even get the last question.

How do your actions solve Beli? They just seem focused on creating a cw.

I am not mindfucked i correctly pegged you as scum and got you lynched which won the game for town.

I am catching up

can some1 plz unvote beli I have a very good protown reason for asking this the next vote on beli is a scumclaim. I need a helluva lot more discussion right now.

[Valkyrie Mollie]

Why was axle's posting style 'extremely' disgusting? I don't remember any disgust over it - just the sentiment that he was hard to read.

Have you actually tried reading his posts?
Right, it's fucking impossible.

UNVOTE:
I want to chat with beli first

I fucking love you.

[Titus]

Great then what do you want to discuss.

I want your thoughts on Farside and FAQ2 today.

[Valkyrie Mollie]

You can help by voting.

^ this is scum btw

wanting to lynch beli

before he has a chance to fucking claim is 100% scumclaiming.

far welcome to my town pile.

still townreading tier. like our strongest townread ever.

I am going to need something more from tso than a soft cop guilty cos beli was a strong townread for us and I don't trust tso.

I still like elby for town and I am thinking about faq2, waiting to sync up with guy.

[T S O]

sweetie, I'm not softing anything. that should be clear.

[Titus]

I am fine with it.

I know the PRs in this game most likely. Beli will claim vt or scum. :p

Oh there's a soft guilty.. gee I missed that. Rolefish much?

[Belisarius]

Right, missed that.

Why do you feel a theory disconnect from play is scummy? Have you caught scum earlier on the basis of their thoughts on mafia theory not completely matching with their play?

A disconnect between word and deed is a sign of a deceptive mindset. I have never caught scum any other way. Does it work every single time? No, but if that's what you're driving at, look up the term "lottery fallacy."

Why did you feel the need to counterpoint every point titus made on me?

Playstyle/style of rhetoric. Doing otherwise is called "cherrypicking."

Actually, I can't place my finger on why, but the wagon on Seraph feels sorta like the flashwagon on me in Open 480

Please indicate in what time span of the game the wagon on you built. Please do try to explain how this wagon is similar to the one on you in that game. Why would the specific way the wagon built there always be indicative of a scum lynch?

Using a lot of words to say "why" isn't a condign response to a statement that starts with "I can't place my finger on why, but"

I feel that it's extremely hard to discern scum votes from town votes on such a deadline flashwagon. I really wonder how you can determine on what alignment the lynch is going to fall by just seeing the wagon build.

That would make a fairly useful MD thread. My answer, however, is "intuition."

And please don't say something in the vein of 'It just looked like it, idk' because I do vague meta references as scum all the time and I think it's what you might be doing here. Even if you cannot fully lay your finger on it, please do try to explain what you CAN explain.

I'm parsing this as "I know you just said you don't know why, but tell us why anyways," exactly as above. Maybe if you find different words to ask the exact same question six or seven more times the answer will change. I'm not putting money on it, though, I agree with what Einstein had to say about that sort of thing.

[Valkyrie Mollie]

Requesting Axle gets Copped or something.

yeah. you are not the cop.

Vote Belisarius, or explain why you're not doing so.

you better explain why you think beli is scum then cos "oh I thought he looked scummy on d1" isn't gonna cut it.

[Titus]

Beli claim.

[Titus]

Requesting Axle gets Copped or something.

yeah. you are not the cop.

Vote Belisarius, or explain why you're not doing so.

you better explain why you think beli is scum then cos "oh I thought he looked scummy on d1" isn't gonna cut it.

Lol. Yes fakeouts don't happen ever. Tracker or watcher also work. Stop rolefishing.

[T S O]

can you go through why he's town?

[Titus]

TSO do you want a hug tonight? I like hugging.

[Belisarius]

Beli claim.

I don't claim at L-2.

[T S O]

TSO do you want a hug tonight? I like hugging.

sure!

[Belisarius]

Tracker or watcher also work.

Think about what you just said.

[Valkyrie Mollie]

Beli claim.

I don't claim at L-2.

beli you are the lynch lead and you were put @ L1 with a stated intent to hammer. claiming might not be such a bad idea here.

guy and I are exchanging texts