Mini 1649: Jabberwocky Mafia (Game Over)

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #800 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:54 pm

Also if TSO has a guilty on Beli, he should out it.
If not, then simply just say "I don't have a guilty on Beli" so you hide your role while clarify some stuffs.

It would help us as well re: what to do.

Titus · Post Post #801 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:56 pm

He already did. Why do you think the wagon took off?

Beli has already CCed TSO. Why is he stalling on the result?

Belisarius · Post Post #802 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:57 pm

In post 799, Titus wrote:If you are CCing TSO go all in Beli. Result.

@Mollie, Four PRs with a suicidal scum is absurd.

For fuck's sake.

I'm not claiming without L-1 with intent to hammer. We are not at deadline. Stop rolefishing.

Belisarius · Post Post #803 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:59 pm

I've not CC'd shit.

Titus · Post Post #804 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:59 pm

I am not rolefishing. You are backing out of a claim.

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #805 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:00 pm

In post 795, Titus wrote:Mollie, if that post actually gives you relief, you should CC TSO or vote Beli. Stop stalling.

@FAQ2, not mine TSOs.

so whaaaaat do you think of tso denying that he has a guilty on beli?

we are not lynching beli

I wanna lynch you and tso

cos I think tso is full of shit

also you tried this same dumb trick by only addressing 1 hydra partner over another and you don't even get the luxury of saying that 1 name is easier to type out

you are scum.

VOTE: titus

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #806 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:00 pm

I honestly think that massclaim should happen. We're in good shape with scum dead, get a better of idea if this game has a non-normal nightkill method, get some conftowns to work reads of, etc.

Titus · Post Post #807 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:02 pm

He didn't recant.

Go ahead and try to lynch me Mollie. You know by now I refer to hydras by what name I please. You want me not to use a name, do not do that in your hydra.

Titus · Post Post #808 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:02 pm

No massclaim. We lynch Beli. Beli flips scum.

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #809 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:03 pm

In post 804, Titus wrote:I am not rolefishing. You are backing out of a claim.

he didn't claim.

so he is scum who wasn't given a safeclaim or scum backing out of a claim?

which is it? cos they both can't be true

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #810 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:04 pm

In post 808, Titus wrote:No massclaim. We lynch Beli. Beli flips scum.

over my dead body

Belisarius · Post Post #811 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:04 pm

In post 804, Titus wrote:I am not rolefishing. You are backing out of a claim.

I'm not backing out of a claim. To the contrary, I've explicitly expressed willingness to claim when a claim is called for. What I've refused to do is obey YOU for no damned reason.

goodmorning · Post Post #812 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:05 pm

"They are that", said Humpty Dumpty: "also they make their nests under sun-dials--also they live on cheese."

Votecount 2.5

Belisarius [L-3] - Elbirn, T S O, Flubbernugget

farside22 [L-5] - Titus
Elbirn [L-5] - hi im Yakko
Titus [L-5] - Valkyrie Mollie

Not Voting [5] - Witness Protection, Belisarius, FA_Q2, TierShift, farside22

With 11 alive, it takes

6

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2015-03-29 10:00:00).

farside is V/LA.

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #813 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:05 pm

Now where in the universe comes the logic of "resisting a guilty" -> "a CC"
I'm crazy myself and even I don't see where that comes from.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #814 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:07 pm

As I said - I am a pretty straight forward guy. I was not picking that up as a hard claim but now I see where you are coming from.

As it is pretty much in the open, would you mind confirming TSO for those of us in the slow class? You are positive that beli is scum?

Also, at this juncture I do not think that it is unreasonable to mention that I am also a PR (scum have so many targets already) so I am not so sure that mollie's claim is all that unreasonable. I would point out that this is an unreviewed setup with the use of suicide role modifiers and from the OP:
"This is an unreviewed setup so if it's shitty I can't blame it on anyone else"

It is quite possible that there are a ton of PR roles in this game. It makes me wonder what powers the scum have though and how many there are. There is going to have to be some power behind them in order to make up for all of the roles on the town side.

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #815 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:07 pm

I can vouch that guy might be slightly crazy

Titus · Post Post #816 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:08 pm

In post 796, Belisarius wrote:TSO didn't claim, TSO tunnels, and the only way TSO could have a guilty on me is if my role PM is made of lies.

There's Beli's CC.

Now if you will excuse me, I have real life scum to fry.

Titus · Post Post #817 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:08 pm

In post 814, FA_Q2 wrote:As I said - I am a pretty straight forward guy. I was not picking that up as a hard claim but now I see where you are coming from.

As it is pretty much in the open, would you mind confirming TSO for those of us in the slow class? You are positive that beli is scum?

Also, at this juncture I do not think that it is unreasonable to mention that I am also a PR (scum have so many targets already) so I am not so sure that mollie's claim is all that unreasonable. I would point out that this is an unreviewed setup with the use of suicide role modifiers and from the OP:
"This is an unreviewed setup so if it's shitty I can't blame it on anyone else"

It is quite possible that there are a ton of PR roles in this game. It makes me wonder what powers the scum have though and how many there are. There is going to have to be some power behind them in order to make up for all of the roles on the town side.

Agreed. Too many PR claims and hints already and scum is very nerfed.

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #818 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:10 pm

In post 816, Titus wrote:
In post 796, Belisarius wrote:TSO didn't claim, TSO tunnels, and the only way TSO could have a guilty on me is if my role PM is made of lies.

There's Beli's CC.

Now if you will excuse me, I have real life scum to fry.

That awfully sounds like "my role PM says town so that guilty is a BS" to me.

In post 817, Titus wrote:
In post 814, FA_Q2 wrote:As I said - I am a pretty straight forward guy. I was not picking that up as a hard claim but now I see where you are coming from.

As it is pretty much in the open, would you mind confirming TSO for those of us in the slow class? You are positive that beli is scum?

Also, at this juncture I do not think that it is unreasonable to mention that I am also a PR (scum have so many targets already) so I am not so sure that mollie's claim is all that unreasonable. I would point out that this is an unreviewed setup with the use of suicide role modifiers and from the OP:
"This is an unreviewed setup so if it's shitty I can't blame it on anyone else"

It is quite possible that there are a ton of PR roles in this game. It makes me wonder what powers the scum have though and how many there are. There is going to have to be some power behind them in order to make up for all of the roles on the town side.

Agreed. Too many PR claims and hints already and scum is very nerfed.

And how do you know this?
For all we know we could have 4 scums.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #819 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:11 pm

In post 816, Titus wrote:
In post 796, Belisarius wrote:TSO didn't claim, TSO tunnels, and the only way TSO could have a guilty on me is if my role PM is made of lies.

There's Beli's CC.

Now if you will excuse me, I have real life scum to fry.

...

That is not a claim. He could be VT, a PR or even a GF and that statement would be true. That does not make this a counter claim at all :/
PEdit: ninja'd by VM

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #820 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:11 pm

In post 816, Titus wrote:
In post 796, Belisarius wrote:TSO didn't claim, TSO tunnels, and the only way TSO could have a guilty on me is if my role PM is made of lies.

There's Beli's CC.

Now if you will excuse me, I have real life scum to fry.

you said he cced before this post

who wants a titus is scum lets lynch her popsicle cos that is what I find the most tasty right now!

Belisarius · Post Post #821 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:11 pm

In post 816, Titus wrote:
In post 796, Belisarius wrote:TSO didn't claim, TSO tunnels, and the only way TSO could have a guilty on me is if my role PM is made of lies.

There's Beli's CC.

Now if you will excuse me, I have real life scum to fry.

That's not a fucking CC, that's an assertion that TSO is a fucking bullshitter based on empirical fucking evidence!

FA_Q2 · Post Post #822 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:15 pm

In post 820, Valkyrie Mollie wrote:
In post 816, Titus wrote:
In post 796, Belisarius wrote:TSO didn't claim, TSO tunnels, and the only way TSO could have a guilty on me is if my role PM is made of lies.

There's Beli's CC.

Now if you will excuse me, I have real life scum to fry.

you said he cced before this post

who wants a titus is scum lets lynch her popsicle cos that is what I find the most tasty right now!

I want to hear from TSO first. If he is claiming a hard scum read then we can lynch belli first and TSO if it is a lie.

Titus is not really on the table unless TSO says that he is not claiming an investigative role on beli. I don't see a good scum motivation for trying to misuse a claim like that though - he would have been better off with the quick hammer.

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #823 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:23 pm

titus is on my table and I have a meat cleaver

you can dance around and try to pick up where she stumbles I don't care it really is up to you it just makes you look bad if you are town!

Valkyrie Mollie · Post Post #824 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:25 pm

Actually there's a plenty of scum motivation for doing that.

Quick hammering beli will guarantee her death tomorrow because how much people likes to lynch her In general. Sticking with "TSO has a guilty" grants her (1) she doesn't need to do anything and just coast on that (2) can hide behind "I thought he was guilty" reasoning after beli flips town.
^
Faq2
I just got ninja'd by mollie