Alright, I'm backish. Shouldn't be any other long absences I think
This post seems especially odd amidst your TSO Crusade. Explain it.
In post 4017, SilverWolf wrote:Actually, Pisskop was on elusive 3 of those vc's D1:
Let's look at his votes:
T S O in RVS, later unvotes
Votes dragon
402, unvotes
770-this could be kind of a distancing thing if dragon was scum
Votes Kitz in
917 jumping on a Kitz wagon started by ABR, this leads me to believe Kitz town
Here he votes elusive
1025 on her scumreads of House, FA, and Wake-soft defending all 3 of them which is noteable and should be looked at as at least one or more could be scum in that group
Here joins the Klingon town wagon
1608 which I'd expect scum to do.
So based on this, and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong in this analysis:
-I think Kitz and elusive are more likely to be town because of pisskop voting for elusive all those vc cycles D1 and it doesn't seem like a good idea for scum to bus like that D1 of a Large Normal.
-He joined a wagon on Kitz while also joining one on town Klingoncelt later, leads me to believe Kitz is town-why join a wagon on your scumbuddy D1 and again, joining wagons on town is what scum likes to do.
-dragon vote and unvote could be distancing, I've mostly been townreading dragon but this is noteable at least
-when voting for elusive he soft defends the people she's scumreading by saying her reads are bad-FA, House, Wake-noteable for scum possibly being in this group, I've got a townread on House, scum on Wake and not sure on FA-could go either way, Ozgin I have less of a townread on then I did House but he's not really scummy, Marquis isn't scummy either which is causing me confusion on my Wake read because Wake was obvscum to me due to his play.
I don't even know what this tells us but maybe something?
Wake is obvscum, but you're voting FaQ instead. That doesn't make sense to me.
This is terrible. I don't understand the weird cult resistance to an NS lynch.
In post 4035, dragonspawn wrote:I'm not particularly leaning towards an fa lynch but I won't object if their is a hammer. I just would much prefer hitting gm.
What's your current case on GM?
In post 4046, Marquis wrote:then i have a wagon to analyze and another nightkill to do so with as well
either way i think there's a really good chance of fa_q2 flipping scum that trumps any of my second thoughts and it's the best choice we have
I find it hard to believe that you went from
"Fa_q2 has a good chance of flipping scum, that trumps my second thoughts, it's our best choice"
to
"I'm going to do a full read unvote"
In post 4071, Ozgin wrote: In post 4049, FA_Q2 wrote: In post 4042, Ozgin wrote:Holding the intent to hammer, just in case Kitz isn't really sure about it.
I'm waiting for FA_Q to get a chance to really speak. I really don't like the "Whatever, blegh" attitude he has those (like in posts
4000 and
4014), I also don't get the contradiction
here either, where he defends Wake by saying (basically) "What scum would replace out of a winning game?" followed by "Yeah, I think Wake is scummy..." It just doesn't add up.
This sounds like fake sympathy to me.
My least-favorite FA_Q post is probably
this one, where he puts ABR at L-1 because (I am paraphrasing his attitude at that point) "Fuck it! Town lost anyways, who gives a fuck, right?! Thbbrrrrrrttttttt".
All in all, I don't really like FA_Q's posts because they're either null or grossly apathetic to the town situation.
Your 'least favorite' post is an abject lie. I didn't put him at L1 because of 'fuck it.' I put him there because he was single highhandedly destroying the game. IF ABR survived then he would have done absolutely nothing at all but distract the ENTIRE town from scum hunting and eliminating any and all ability to move forward. I gave my reasons and here you are taking shit out of context and lying about it.
You all are looking for scum ^ here is more of it.
1) You said he
destroyed
the game. You said town was fucked, not "going to be fucked" and not "getting destroyed," but "fucked" and "destroyed." Your tone was clearly that of defeat AND apathy.
2) It's really fucking cute that you bold one line of my short analysis on you that I made while reading your ISO and contemplating the idea of you being scum, and gave no fucks about the other posts I pointed to. Furthermore, I did not lie nor did I take things out of context -- I interpreted YOUR shitty post. If my analysis was SHITTY to you, then you can only imagine how SHITTY your post sounded to me.
I really want to hammer you, but I'm tired of town running into lynches with guns blazed at the hips and taking town other townies. In light of your recent reactions (arguably the most frustrated posts I've ever read), I'm almost inclined to believe you're town. But answer me this:
FA_Q2 wrote:
I agree with the replacement issue just like you but I am trying not to let that cloud the actual ACTIONS taken by the slot itself.
Do you
honestly
believe that Wake would be on the winning team, and replace out just to take the heat off of his slot in an attempt to help his
already winning team?
On another pseudo-related note:
Shinobi wrote:Tempted to agree with DS. FA should still follow up on that Aeronaut thing though.
Did Ozgin ever have a scumread on FA beforehand?
No, I did not. I actually forgot FA_Q was a player, because (in all honesty) I've been almost completely inactive until this point of D4, and most of the end of D3. I only even looked into FA_Q at the prompt of SilverWolf who asked my thoughts on him. But even so, I wasn't really (and still am not) on the scale of "ERMAHGERD HE'S A SCUMBAG," all I said was I didn't like his posts because of their apathetic (and now in hindsight, defeated) tone.
P-EDIT:
Shinobi wrote: In post 4066, Shinobi wrote:Tempted to agree with DS. FA should still follow up on that Aeronaut thing though.
Did Ozgin ever have a scumread on FA beforehand?
No, he said FA made a very useful post, only coming up with a scumread when he got to L-1.
How convenient.
Read above.
Hmm.... This post and his general demeanor in recent posts actually makes me lean town on Ogzin, for something I can't quite talk about yet.
In post 4076, Shinobi wrote:Except that wasn't the point I was making.
Why FA_Q over any other apathetic player in the game, aside from the fact that he is at L-1?
Shinobi is town, I've decided.
In post 4099, Cheetory6 wrote:Like I may be wordy, unconvincing or wrong about details, but my gut is fucking roaring and it wants TSO blood and I won't fucking settle for less at this point.
So if you're prepared to find a wagon that won't exist on either myself or TSO then SHIT THAT SUCKS.
I'm not going to be a part of it anymore.
I don't really get the escalation up to this point. Yes, I get that people aren't seeing what you're seeing but I've seen TSO be way more antagonistic in games.
Do you have reads on other people? Have any changed?
I feel like you've spent the whole day just ranting about TSO and not giving us much more than that.
In post 4134, FA_Q2 wrote:
Reads in a nutshell:
Kitz – town lean. Kitz is trying to lurk though and that is bothering me. Her reaoning for this is dumb IMHO – town does not need to lurk to get suspicion off them, that is a scum motivation. Not getting scum from other actions though.
You have her as a town read but then you sort of list off all the things she's done that's scummy... What has she done that's townie to you?
dragonspawn – been scum reading dragon for a while. Not liking the subdued way he is playing. One thing is for sure, dragon has NOT added anything that resembles scum hunting for a very long time. The one case that I can remember is against GM as ‘gloating.’
I agree with this posting. I don't get the resistance.
Flubber – already laid case out and it is only getting worse. Looks very scummy.
Flubber = Marquis, right?
Aeronaut – leaning scum in general because areo has been posting mostly fluff and avoiding any real scum hunting. At times I forget that he is even in the game.
I'll admit I've been a bit absent the last few days, so I guess there's that. Can you link what you believe to be "fluff posting"? I feel like you never felt the need to bring this up in the past, so it's interesting to me.
Ozgin – Town lean/null. Hard to read because his posts seem quite controlled.
I wouldn't say they're that controlled at all, tbh, or at least not lately.
I thought that you were going to use the 9 days we have to read the game? What happened there?
