CI1656: Hearthstone Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Sonic Heroes]

mr mod, we are voting mantis

[theelkspeaks]

mr mod, we are voting mantis

Fixed

[Klazam]

prawn is voting me

[Sonic Heroes]

hey reck if you're not going to do anything could you plz sheep me, tia

[xRECKONERx]

depends, which head of the hydra are u

[Sonic Heroes]

the head that's the better kisser

[xRECKONERx]

still unaware

[killerjester]

The Grib wagon was engineered to gauge everyone's reaction, get a read on the players substantially supporting/criticizing it, and to look for opportunistic counterwagons.

Grib (the man, the myth, the legend himself) - Reacted very reasonably. Didn't flail or anything, instead continued to engage the game, look for scum on his wagon, and the such. Lean-town.

dragonspawn - Echos Grib's vote on myself, and at least acknowledges Reck's vote showed the same traits. However, the RVS over-justification for choosing me over Reck comes off as forced. All around he's wishy washy with his reads and seems reluctant to take a firm stance on anything this early in the game, despite "kicking the hornet's nest". Lean-scum.

freekazoid - Has genuine reads, even in spite of the head dissonance (or rather, reinforced by it?) Actively engages with other players and manages to hop around wagons in a manner that keeps protown momentum and drives the game forward. Firm town.

Mantisdreamz - Comes off as entirely uninterested in scumhunting. Content to sheep the Klazam vote and fly under the radar. Falls somewhere between lean and firm scum.

ika - Stays active and trying to prevent the rest of the game from stagnating despite being admittedly apathetic. Strikes me as town because I feel scum in his position would be more complacent with a stagnating game. Lean-town.

prawneater - Needs more content. Kinda bad. And by bad I mean scummy. Lean-scum.

VOTE: Mantisdreamz

[Sonic Heroes]

still unaware

antihero

[Mantisdreamz]

@mod

- is it possible to sub into the game as a hydra? it would be 'krystal bald' (w/ nikanor)

going to catch up later, i don't mean to be uninterested, just busy, hence the request to sub in as a hydra

[Grib]

Ugh, so many nullreads. Town it up, people.

Grib (the man, the myth, the legend himself

<3

I'm feeling the reads synergy with killerjester. He can be town for now.

I'm not feeling any of the current wagons so dragonspawn can keep my vote.

Reck/Dan/Jason/Mantis/prawneater: I lean town on some of you, lean scum on the others, but all of you are disgracefully contentless.

[Klazam]

The Grib wagon was engineered to gauge everyone's reaction, get a read on the players substantially supporting/criticizing it, and to look for opportunistic counterwagons.

Engineered? you were the fourth person on it, you did not majorly push it at the start, so where are you getting your engineering?

[xRECKONERx]

yea D1 sucks :\ sry

also another game started at the same time and im just like... life, plz stop

KJ's whole AHA I AM LE GENIUS XD post is gross

anti asking me to sheep him is giving me tingly vibes. also doesn't help anti keeps being scum in games against me

and uhhhh idk what's up with mantis can someone tldr

[ActionDan]

Reading up. please hold

[killerjester]

Y'all are taking me way too literally. I posted six reads and all you can focus on is "OMG KJ SAID THE GRIB WAGON WAS ALL HIS IDEA WAAAAAHHHH"

Yes I was the fourth on it. It doesn't really matter who started it. It doesn't really matter why anyone was on it. My point was everything that happened before the Grib wagon was inane bullshit and so I threw on an empty vote to see what would happen.

[dragonspawn]

Seems convenient to claim it's part of some big plan to see reactions after you get voted for it.

[killerjester]

Well it was and I am. What are you gonna do about it?

[prawneater]

Re: Klazam vote

I didn't like Klazam's 98. Seems like bad logic to get a vote on an early bandwagon which was easily refuted one post after in 99.

Re: Dragon

I think that dragon's 87 is dumb reasoning for a vote, but I think he's town dumb?

dragon, shut up and dont be me

believe me I have no intention to be you. But I plan to stir up the hornets nest and make the scum slip.

If that's to you, your plain stupid. And if you want to lynch me for it than go ahead. Town will only hurt itself by doing so.

It's way too early for this passive-aggressive bullshit. You should back this statement up by catching scum instead of trying this weak manipulation shtick.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dragonspawn

I'm tying to catch scum. Why do you think I kicked the hornets nest?

These posts make my eyes roll but I think they're earnest.

Re: Mantis

I think reluctance to participate in RVS is anti-town and I think slightly weighted to be a scum move more than a town move. I like the pressure votes on her.

Other thoughts:

I like KJ's 182. I think him running up an early wagon is good play and I like most of his reads.

I like freakazoid's reads. I like his dragon unvote.

[prawneater]

13 people, so 4 scum? killerjester/Sonic Heroes/???/???

Do you know something that we don't? Have you played a 13 man with 4 scum before?

[Grib]

13 people, so 4 scum? killerjester/Sonic Heroes/???/???

Do you know something that we don't? Have you played a 13 man with 4 scum before?

Yes.

[ActionDan]

Yes, it does. I like rvs because it establishes some kind of voting record from the fet go.

That may be, but the motion of your vote to the latest offender of non-voting during RVS (Mantis) without a post from Freek inbetween undermines the sentiment.

Wow, four votes? Neat. I am honored to be the first leading wagon. Let's analyze this shit:

Hey Grib

Hydra here, so why did you pick one over the other?

wagon him, he's scum anyway

VOTE: grib

Anti's a little scum duckling, and this vote makes me feel fuzzy inside.

ABR, I never know what to expect but playing with you is always a treat.

Lies

VOTE: Grib

I guess Dan doesn't cherish ABR as much as I do? Boring vote.

VOTE: grib

Nuts

Another vote by the same slot for...some reason.

VOTE: Grib

yawn

VOTE: Grib

zzz

Out of these five (four, really) votes, Dan and killerjester have the least content. Or, really, just the least overall. killerjester is Magic Hellspot #4 out of 7 on my wagon, he had another naked vote before me, and he has literally posted no words outside of votes and confirming. Dan said exactly one word, so. That's at least something.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: killerjester

13 people, so 4 scum? killerjester/Sonic Heroes/???/???

The tone of this post is noticeably different from the banter previous to attaining 4 votes, becoming I'd say, perturbed/hostile, which is very reactionary instead of 'analytic'. I particularly dislike the notion that my RVS vote is compared to KJ's in competing for the position of a scumread (and indeed KJ was voted) based on a word, or that any of these are being judged at all on content... or claimed to be. Sonic has more words and posts to his name and he's a scumread anyway.

Also 4 scum hmmm. All mafia you think?

i was wrong

vote Ika

About what? The last time you voted him it was for policy. It's not obvious why you revoted besides taking some offense to his post above yours.

Not particularly liking the way reck and jester jumped on the grid wagon with little explanation. Gut tells me one of the two is scum

.

So let's start with

VOTE: k. Jester

I could have gone for either but a jester is like a clown and I'm not a big fan of clowns. They tend to not be funny and homicidal. At least if batman hasn't lead me astray.

This is couched language compared to say...

Reckon and jesters votes were scummy as heck

. I can only choose one and the game is early so I picked on at random. It's not like we have 40 pages of info to go off of.

Nor do I agree with the statement that naked votes on page 2 are scummy, discounting the fact that it could be surmised that Reck did have a reason to vote grib from his previous post. I'm not sure you do either, relying on the ever-so-vague 'Gut' instead of "This shit is scummy" when later pressed.

...

No, they don't. The second clarifies the first. I have played with xyz before, therefore I expect to have an easier time reading them, or more succinctly, they will be easy reads.

This isn't difficult.

Not only does the logic here not follow, but you used the term "I'm banking on" which, unless you have a mighty large ego, does not fit in with the story that you fucked up badly in the one game you've had with Reck.

Grib what are your feelings on the people wagoning you?

Don't like Klaz's reasoning at all in 98.

VOTE: Klazam

Only 2 town reads so far. That's pretty disappointing.

Ika: what's going on with you and that entrance. Pretty bland.

who are the town reads, and why?

Killjester and grib.

Why do you want to know.

Klaz add to town spot.

Sonic: why you trolling grib here?

I'd like to know from mastis why they think klaz is scum.
I'm conferring with brantz about his read since it's different then mine.

While you're at it why do you think Klazam is town?

I like klaz attacks, he goes for it and I think the back and forth vote is a town tell. Most of all I agreed with his comment towards dragon.

Get your shit together, and Klazam's 98 was perfectly reasonable.

VOTE: killerjester i will withold reasons atm but one of his post pinged me.

Really? At the point of this post, I've found KJ's posts innocuous. A question here, a question there. You could read them in monotone. You should elaborate.

Reckon and jesters votes were scummy as heck.

Why were they scummy?

jumping on a wagon when the game has barely started with naked votes.

Yes, I can see that.

Why is that action scummy?

the better question would be why isn't it?

Dodged like a champ. Probably because you relied on 'Gut' previously and there's no way for you to come up with anything to answer this question. Amiright?

The Grib wagon was engineered to gauge everyone's reaction, get a read on the players substantially supporting/criticizing it, and to look for opportunistic counterwagons.

Grib (the man, the myth, the legend himself) - Reacted very reasonably. Didn't flail or anything, instead continued to engage the game, look for scum on his wagon, and the such. Lean-town.

dragonspawn - Echos Grib's vote on myself, and at least acknowledges Reck's vote showed the same traits. However, the RVS over-justification for choosing me over Reck comes off as forced. All around he's wishy washy with his reads and seems reluctant to take a firm stance on anything this early in the game, despite "kicking the hornet's nest". Lean-scum.

freekazoid - Has genuine reads, even in spite of the head dissonance (or rather, reinforced by it?) Actively engages with other players and manages to hop around wagons in a manner that keeps protown momentum and drives the game forward. Firm town.

Mantisdreamz - Comes off as entirely uninterested in scumhunting. Content to sheep the Klazam vote and fly under the radar. Falls somewhere between lean and firm scum.

ika - Stays active and trying to prevent the rest of the game from stagnating despite being admittedly apathetic. Strikes me as town because I feel scum in his position would be more complacent with a stagnating game. Lean-town.

prawneater - Needs more content. Kinda bad. And by bad I mean scummy. Lean-scum.

VOTE: Mantisdreamz

So. That Grib read couldn't be farther from the truth. That analyzing his wagon is as flail-y as it gets and I don't understand how you found any of it 'reasonable'. I grant you the engaging people thing, though I wouldn't factor that into a town read.

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If you guessed I'm scumreading Grib and Dragonspawn you'd be correct! (I don't find that RVS-like reason attached to his post when voting KJ to be of significance though, but I do find the recent questioning as hollow as my wallet).

I see recent Mantis votes including ^, but I don't think there's enough yet to make a read. I'll look into SHs reasoning but KJ's isn't convincing.

[Klazam]

holy wall batman.

to address your 2 points about me: Freek DID post in between:

unvote

I changed my mind, been a while since i played with ika, hopefully he's improved since.

vote: freekzoid

Why no vote?

Not always big on rvs.

@Sonic: I disagree with you already.

then i moved my vote to see what mantis had toe ay about his part, then i liked his answer.

point two: i unvoted to give him a chance to show that he improved. i revoted because i saw that he did not. purely policy.

[ActionDan]

Oh weird. Dunno how I missed that when I double checked..

[prawneater]

13 people, so 4 scum? killerjester/Sonic Heroes/???/???

Do you know something that we don't? Have you played a 13 man with 4 scum before?

Yes.

Link please.

[the freekazoid]

Welp I'm scum read Dan now. Could mean he's town since I town read him whenever he's been scum so far.

Dan: how can you make such a large post that says so little?

I told brantz I had a null read reck and Jason.
Bother by ABR's absence in the game a bit and stool find mantis scummy. Prawn post was a good post but I don't write him as town based I one post.