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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:34 am

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In post 246, Kaboose wrote:Heartless I played a game with you as town before and you made more cases out of less in that game.. Now I do think you joined that game on D2, but you definitely seem less rabid than you did that game to catch scum. What's wrong this game?

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and tth's cases were definitely not from less. they were from A LOT MORE (like... you know... a whole day and a couple flips)

i'm having to make shit from scratch. of course the dynamic is going to be different.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:40 am

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prawn is suboptimal lynch

i'm kind of wondering why this nm wagon is so hard
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:41 am

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also, if you want cases, why dontcha look at ?

it's not like nm is totally not here, which is what ppl are treating it as, he has 21 posts and that's a pretty decent number
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:59 pm

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In post 238, prawneater wrote:
In post 214, Kaboose wrote:I voted to get his attention because he wasn't answering me.


In post 184, Kaboose wrote:UNVOTE: Esp

VOTE: Prawn

Prawn why is Tiershift scum?


In post 180, prawneater wrote:
In post 76, Heartless wrote:VOTE: TierShift

In post 74, TierShift wrote:my 64 feels out of sync? Please tell me more!

You're trying to play the role of "mediator" in an argument that doesn't need one. It's a form of active lurking.


In post 165, prawneater wrote:
In post 124, Kaboose wrote:Hey Prawn, why do you want TierShift lynched?


Because of his "guys don't fight" post. It's an easy way to make yourself look like you're helping town without actually doing anything. It's also counterproductive for town because we had so few posts to pick over.


You voted me after I answered you. :cop:


Kaboose, your ordering of events is wrong. You say that you voted me to get an answer, but I had already answered you. How do you respond to this?
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:20 pm

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UNVOTE: Tier

Looking through his ISO, I like post 120, 121.

I think voting on his 64 was fine early day, but ultimately, I don't think it's enough for a lynch, particularly when there's folk like Bulge and Kaboose.

I think Bulge's reasoning for voting me sucks. I don't know if Kaboose even has reasons.
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:28 pm

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In post 223, Putin on a Cracker wrote:Alright that's probably about it for me as I have to go to class now. Serra and I are planning to chat after I finish work tomorrow so you can expect something more cohesive at that point.

In the meantime, lynch Kaboose and shoot NM.

In post 243, Putin on a Cracker wrote:UNVOTE:

ETL and I have finally found some time to talk about our reads, and since it's getting close to DL we should really be closer to a lynch.

I think in sum, we're most confident on our scum read on tier. I've been guilty of posts like 64 a few times as scum, and have basically only seen it from scum. Because you know alignments, it's easier to tell which argument from town are unlikely to lead anywhere, so you're more likely to call them out as useless.

I also don't like him trying to drive a wedge between us and heartless, and the scum-read on lurker nm.

We agree that anen is town. Heartless is leaning town for both of us, and ETL has bulge as town for mostly meta reasons compared to his walls in SR London.

NM and Kaboose are mostly null, though I have them both as slightly more town than her. Kaboose's makes me think he might be town (though I'm not convinced it's as strong an argument as TTH thinks), and NM isn't really making any effort to make his lurking appear active and engaged, which I would generally associate with him lurking as scum.

We disagree on prawn, whom ETL has as gut-town, while I think his empty questions aren't aimed at figuring out alignments. I don't think he's enough of a newb to justify that lack of direction, not to mention the terrible post 80, where he votes tier after calling his posts "arguably anti-town".

Neither of us have a good handle on esp. He doesn't like my attack of prawn's 80, when I wasn't the only one to call him out for it, which is pretty bad, but it's hard to tell if there's scummy intent with his lack of engagement.

VOTE: tier

-serra


How did Kaboose go from lynch to mostly null in 20 posts?

Why did you suddenly vote tier? Has he done something scummy in those 20 posts? What's your reasoning for voting him again?

It feels like you just noticed the deadline and figured you'd better try to make a wagon, rather than you having a strong conviction that tier is scum.

I don't like the town "gut-read" on me. Feels like ETL was just riding a wave of "prawn not scum" sentiment starting with Telltale's unvote in 134 and Espeonage's defense in 150. I don't know if his read on me is real, I'd like more of an explanation.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:32 pm

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In post 149, Putin on a Cracker wrote:
In post 13, Kaboose wrote:
In post 11, Espeonage wrote:
Vote: Bulge


culling the fat.


This is a lazy vote.

VOTE: Espeonage

In post 15, Kaboose wrote:No it's lazy because you just bolded it instead of using vote tags. Tsk tsk.

This is a backpedal if ever I saw one.


The first half of this case is really bad. This isn't a backpedal at all, it was clearly a joke. Labelling this as a backpedal feels very forced and kinda scummy.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:38 pm

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I think telltale is town. I like his reads.
I think espeonage leans town. He's certainly playing different than his last scum game.
I think tier leans town.
I think Aneninen leans town. His ISO looks pretty good. He seems to want to figure out the game.

NM is null.

I'm willing to lynch Bulge, Kaboose, Putin.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:33 pm

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VOTE: notmafia

This lynch is optimal!
Nullreads are very often scum prawn!

Prawn is town btw as is bulge, probably?
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:35 pm

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In post 243, Putin on a Cracker wrote:I think in sum, we're most confident on our scum read on tier. I've been guilty of posts like 64 a few times as scum, and have basically only seen it from scum. Because you know alignments, it's easier to tell which argument from town are unlikely to lead anywhere, so you're more likely to call them out as useless.

I also don't like him trying to drive a wedge between us and heartless, and the scum-read on lurker nm.

I'm sad as the only defence against this type of reasoning (only seen it from scum) is: 'well I'm town'.

Can you get your ass off your vanity wagon and please vote nm? What's your read on him?
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:55 pm

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I've been skimming and prawn looks good, idk what Putin is on really.

Am I voting them?
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:57 pm

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No, are you voting NM?

The answer could be yes with the mere click of a few buttons.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:15 pm

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What's he done?
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:21 pm

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Drawn the red letters in his PM. I'm sorry for that too :/
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:22 pm

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None of his behaviour is geared towards scumhunting and he does this thing where he doesn't try to understand people but keeps asking dumb questions which he does as scum
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:27 pm

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I'll read him maybe. Get another testimonial and I'll go for it.

I've got like the only townread, who was picked on by my scumread saying you're scum. And he did peg scum our last game early.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:44 am

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i've pegged scum early before. so has tth. do we get a prize for that too?
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:49 am

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1 day 3 hours 10 minutes

we got 3 more votes to go. c'mon ppl.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:50 am

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etl or serra, i see you at the bottom

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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:21 am

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In post 265, Espeonage wrote:I've got like the only townread, who was picked on by my scumread saying you're scum. And he did peg scum our last game early.

Yeah but their case is shit so come vote nm
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:50 am

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Could you name an original contribution prawn has made to this game, esp? Maybe point out any of his questions he's actually followed up on and gotten a read from?


In post 259, TierShift wrote:I'm sad as the only defence against this type of reasoning (only seen it from scum) is: 'well I'm town'.

:neutral:

In post 255, prawneater wrote:How did Kaboose go from lynch to mostly null in 20 posts?

Because I have a mild townread on him.

In post 255, prawneater wrote:Why did you suddenly vote tier? Has he done something scummy in those 20 posts? What's your reasoning for voting him again?

I've literally been saying he's scum since like page 3 or 4.


ETL and I disagree on Kaboose and prawn, but agree on tier, hence the vote. I'll vote nm if people don't come around to voting tier.
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:08 am

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quick notes - kaboose did not "go from a scum read to null at best". I still think he is scum and serra does not. we agree on tiershift for reasons we have stated multiple times and that no one has bothered to refute in any way other than to say "you're wrong, you must be scum". So, yeah. dont care about those arguments.

anti - i was thinking about MafiaSSK from our badass orion game, not NM, re: the lurking/non-contributing stuff. not sure why/how i confused them, but those comments no longer apply because they were for a different person.

serra - heartless wants to lynch NM, go for it. NM turns up town, then we know we were wrong on them, but i trust them both right now and so far they've been incredible. i fully support a sheep there.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:08 am

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^ this last post was ETL. the one before is serra and i haven't read it yet. doing that now.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:09 am

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alright yeah i agree with all that. :]

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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:10 am

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In post 256, prawneater wrote:This isn't a backpedal at all, it was clearly a joke

you dunno kaboose like i know kaboose.

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