Micro 447: Shameless Mafia -- Game Over!

[This Christmas]

Scum haven't attempted to kill Shos apparently, and are making weird kills
That suggests experienced confident scum

droog kill, really? That is my rx

[This Christmas]

I don't know what the plan is. But scum are in total control. They are earning this win. I'm not doing enough. End of

[TierShift]

1xtracker+1xcommute +VT's against 2 goons is balanced, yes or no? @tC

[shos]

Sooooo
I researched Anen and she does all that as both alignments. HOWEVER, I did find the thing that made me think she was town and I didn't tell you all about, and I need to check that out more to be 100%. I researched anen's last 8 games and was correct in 100% of the times.

I'm leaning Tier-Shos team taking control. And I don't have the IQ to understand what you mean by how I placed my reads or how I interacted with Toon Fighter

I did that all on instinct.

Would you please not insult us by saying "Im not smart enough for this game"? that's not an excuse, and this wasn't even complicated.

If I did a countdown, it was probably because toon was l -1 or refusing to claim at intent to hammer

READ THE GAME. he said he'll post in a couple of hours. you started a countdown of a couple of hours. he posted. you ignored that and voted him with no reasoning. he asked why. you didn't answer.

the end.

TC, what do you think the scum plan was? Relentlessly bus to (almost) a lynch, then have my partner claim a strong PR? Later confirm him with a delay in the hope town can't meddle with it in any way?

Next to that, town would have a 1-shot tracker and a 1-shot commuter as only PR's, which is ridiculous from a balanve perspective.

So no, TC. Just no.

gonna lol at the 'scum plan' that TS presented

here it comes.

lol.

but the next thing he wrote is really good. with the current claims, 1s tracker and 1s commuter? no fucking way a town would be SO extremely underpowered.

This should practically make me and TS conftowns, I think. if TS is scum, I'm gonna be pissed endgame though.

[TierShift]

Sooooo
I researched Anen and she does all that as both alignments. HOWEVER, I did find the thing that made me think she was town and I didn't tell you all about, and I need to check that out more to be 100%. I researched anen's last 8 games and was correct in 100% of the times.

Pls tell already

[shos]

Scum haven't attempted to kill Shos apparently, and are making weird kills
That suggests experienced confident scum

droog kill, really? That is my rx

why would they?
as I have said, blocking a cop makes wifom and makes him lynchable, and it also 100% utilizes the roleblock ability.
killing the cop is ok, but that does not guarantee that the roleblock ability is used to its best ability, AND it doesn't generate the wifom discussion around the cop, which scum need and/or want to both 1) mislynch him and 2) have the spotlight off of them.

Droog was obvtown, nobody was scumreading him. which one would you have killed, eh? answer this please.

I don't know what the plan is. But scum are in total control. They are earning this win. I'm not doing enough. End of

THEN DO. OR REPLACE OUT.
you can't just stay and do nothing while stubbornly staying ingame, if you're town. It's not too late to replace out, there's still 2 scums out there and the game isn't long neough to be a pain in the ass to replace into.

[This Christmas]

That wasn't an insult, shos. How is saying you're smarter an insult.

Tier I don't know if that's balanced. Scum and town both seem weak

[This Christmas]

Oh estival pushed droog and me calling us trolls
I didn't know he was obvtown

[This Christmas]

Oh estival pushed droog and me calling us trolls
I didn't know he was obvtown

[shos]

Well.

investigation shows that by mi soopir sikrit tell, Aneninen is actually scum.
..which means I'm going to have to go through ALL his games to make sure I'm correct.


pedit:
not insulting, but disrespectful. "you do shit while I rest here cuz you're smart" is dissing.

"you are trolling" is not scumreading someone, and even if comes with a vote, does not make it even 1% more likely to lynch him.

[shos]

I'll do that later though, I wanna read my HW at least, if not start doing them

[This Christmas]

Droog was lynchable
Also that's not even what I meant
Anyways I'm not speaking about that anymore

Stop asking me to replace out. It's not happening
I am responding and being spontaneous, even if reading is not happening atm

[TierShift]

Tier I don't know if that's balanced. Scum and town both seem weak

Let me tell you: it's not. Town are severely underpowered.

Generally considered balanced is:
6 VT
1 cop
2 goons

Now compare the cop to a 1-shot tracker and a 1-shot commuter. A tracker is a muuuuch weaker cop; it can only detect one of the scums and does not have reliable innocent results. On top of that, it's 1-shot. A 1-shot commuter is totally useless; it can evade a NK once, which turns the game into evens, which doesn't do shit.

So basically, town have a 1 in 8 chance to catch scum with their tracker. That is almost nothing. Compare it to the balanced cop setup I just gave you; there the cop gets innocents AND has a much bigger chance of catching scum, I'd say close to 1 in 2.

Do you believe insanity has an unbalanced setup?

Btw shos stop asking active people to replace out. That's a dick move.

[shos]

I'm not. I'm asking him to actually do soemthing. he actively states he isn't going to do that.

[Alchemist21]

Well.

investigation shows that by mi soopir sikrit tell, Aneninen is actually scum.
..which means I'm going to have to go through ALL his games to make sure I'm correct.


pedit:
not insulting, but disrespectful. "you do shit while I rest here cuz you're smart" is dissing.

"you are trolling" is not scumreading someone, and even if comes with a vote, does not make it even 1% more likely to lynch him.

Please tell me this super secret tell doesn't involve the kitty.

[TierShift]

oh wait, I missed how the super secret tell made anen scum.

WHAT IS GOING ON PLS TELL

[Aneninen]

Well.
investigation shows that by mi soopir sikrit tell, Aneninen is actually scum.
..which means I'm going to have to go through ALL his games to make sure I'm correct.

WTF?!?
I'm not scum.

[This Christmas]

Are you freaking out

[Aneninen]

No. I simply don't understand it at all.

[insanity018]

Votecount 3.5 (unchanged)

No Lynch

(1): This Christmas

Not Voting

(5): shos, TierShift, Alchemist21, Aneninen, Toon Fighter

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-03-31 11:00:00)

Aneninen is LA until Sunday.

[Toon Fighter]

I think scums are [Alch, TC]

elaborate.

Process of elaboration, really. We have 6 players. Assuming both TS and shos are actually telling the truth, and I know I am townie, that leaves Anen, TC, Alch. I believe Anen's claim (as you said, not a decent scum claim, etc) so that leaves the other two as scums. Plus sheila and Jimmy as scums? I an believe that. Also, I have a general intuition, from the way they have been playing, those two can be scums. Not digging quotes here now but can make a case later. About the discussion with TC D1, I kinda forgot about it at the time, as more important issues pressed on and TC was a derping non-factor most of the game, but yeah, he never clearly answered that vote.

Alternatively, one of TS/shos might be scum:

TS scum // shos scum is very unlikele (for balance reasons, as has been pointed out)
TS town // shos scum makes no sense (no reason for him to confirm you were blocked, no one to even block you)
TS scum // shos town can work (TS Roleblocker fakeclaims voyeur for townpoints and sheeping the townie for endgame victory)

So, even assuming TS is lying, our lynchpool for today should be in [Alch/TC], as one of them must be his partner. Lynching the most likely of the two (I think TC but must read better) and, depending on the night results/if the game is still on we can go on to lynch one of TS/Alch tomorrow FTW

[Toon Fighter]

Process of elimination**

[shos]

Looks like TC is going dpwn then lol

Ill explain the sikrit tell that makes anen scum later, when I actually cpnfirm it is true.
If unimtentional, taht is pretty screwed up though, lol!!!

[TierShift]

I believe Anen's claim (as you said, not a decent scum claim, etc)

What is wrong with claiming 1-shot commuter as scum? It's the safest fakeclaim possible, especially when you don't tell if you've used your shot. It also nets you some townpoints, because it always fits into a setup (really, think of a moment it doesn't fit!) and it's different from a VT claim.

I'm not saying anen is scum for claiming that, but it certainly does not make him town.

[shos]

the tell is unrelated to the claim.