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mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
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this is one of those whine posts, but idk, take from it what you will.
So I like gragas-support, and it's probably not top tier, but it's not bad either. One issue is that occasionally, people will think you are trolling them. But last Graves I met was so sceptical, he missed the cheese opportunity we had and it makes me sad.
Now, this is something you can easily do with thresh, ish as leona, and with others you have to worry about it in the matchup against them. 9 minions in, you get lv2 (if you take the 3 melee minions first). Relic shield gets you an easy head start (always get the first two minions, it'll just come back up to help you take the first siege creep). As Thresh, you'll look for that early flay that catches one of them and a large bit of the minion wave, minions get lower, opponents back off because they feel they are being traded on. Otherwise, you go in to lane and hit every creep a bit. Gragas has an easy time here, the skill you want to get level one happens to be cask anyway, which you can happily drop on the wave, esspecially with the recent buff on his mana pool.
When the last melee creeps of the second wave are about to fall, you get in position, hope your opponents are morons, ctrl-skill for a level up and move in straight away. Now gragas is no thresh or leona at lv2, and they do it a lot better, but still, knocking someone up and slowing them is going to win you the trade against a lv1.
Last Graves though, after I dropped the second cask for the melee minions of the second wave, moved into our bush, took 5 seconds to type in all caps that I should stop hitting minions. Opportunity lost Mind you, I threw it on the full health creeps, cask doesn't have close to enough damage to take them, he couldn't even miss last hits because of it. He just didn't understand I was trying to win him the lane as graves vs cait.
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mykonian Frisian Shoulder-Demon
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oh, most are totally fine, a couple even actively help. Now and then you get that adc you are in sync with and the lane goes so smooth suddenly, not even because you are both better, but because you think about going in at the same time. Lately, those lanes have been more common than the ones where they back out when you go in and visa versa. I can't complainSurrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.-
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10 in a row, series for S2 and now a 9 game perfect Annie with a 4.07 KDA.
I will cry if i lose my next Annie game.
EDIT: Streak broke at 11 playing sona support with a fizz that had blitz steal his early red buff to fuck our lane, and an AD ez Mid who keeps picking ez with a trash KDA and 39% win rate.
GG.Returning win rate: 4/1, 80%
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BROseidon Expert Marxman
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What sort of animal is Soraka, a banana?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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Mmmmm, ok! Sure!Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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If you wish tospeak to one of us, we are Niamh, Rhiannon, Rhea, Aisling, Saoirse, Selene, Aoife, Fírinne, Aurélie, Lyra, Airna, Fiadh and Laoise.
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Voidedmafia Jack of All Trades
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He's been making a resurgence lately (probably helped in part by XWX playing the shit outta him in the LCS).
Also, urgot does make for a pretty good counter to Zed, right? Or should I not take Gravity's game against TSM as the norm for that matchup?2011 scummies winner (BTS help) and participant;
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Urgot is definitely strong against Zed. His mana/CDR items give him lots of armor and his passive+shield+suppression counter dive-and-escape assassination patterns in general.
Zed can probably push and roam, though.-
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I'm imagining a player who picked Yasuo and then kept typing SCIENCE after every team fight that had a 5-man ult.-
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Oman NK Immune Miller Vig
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In post 40093, Voidedmafia wrote:Or should I not take Gravity's game against TSM as the norm for that matchup?
I mean, you should never take a single game, or pro games as "the norm". They're very good players and can make a lot of strats work, but it might not be consistent.
Overall though, yeah he's really strong in 1v1, but I'm not sure he really makes up for it across the team.It's unfortunate that good oral sex excuses bad chemistry. - Korts-
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