Mini 1657 — Taylor Swift UPick — Game Over

[Endless Possibilities]

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oh, MS also has Bookitty as town, but that's the only read he's given me so far

[Marquis]

V O T E C O U N T

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You might think I'd bring up Joe, the guy who broke up with me on the phone,
But I'm not gonna mention him
in my monologue.

Hey, Joe! I'm doing real well; tonight I'm hosting SNL,
but I'm not gonna brag about that
in my monologue!

— "Monologue Song (La La La)",

Saturday Night Live

ep. "663 - Taylor Swift"

(3)

Antihero

— Endless Possibilities, Empking

(L-4)

(0)

Aristophanes

—

(0)

Bookitty

—

(0)

Elyse

—

(0)

Empking

—

(0)

Endless Possibilities

—

(2)

Espeonage

— Not_Mafia, LucianRoy

(L-5)

(1)

killerjester

— The Bulge

(L-6)

(2)

LucianRoy

— killerjester, Antihero

(L-5)

(4)

Not_Mafia

— Elyse, Bookitty, Soren, Espeonage

(L-3)

(0)

Om of the Nom

—

(0)

Soren

—

(0)

The Bulge

—

(2)

Not Voting

— Aristophanes, Om of the Nom

With

13

alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-04-05 21:15:00)

(Sun Apr 5 @ 21:15:00 EDT).

Om of the Nom

will be prodded if he does not post within the 48 hours since game start.

[LucianRoy]

Critical information that could determine the death of a scum-member is usually pro-town. Information regarding a town aligned gambit-role for instance, is not.

I don't particularly have a problem with your explanation, but I disagree Esp asking that question is scum motivated. I could just as easily see it coming from town who thinks it's a better idea for me to full claim. I don't see a reason I should full claim here, but a lot of town players think it's a better idea to have information like this on the table as opposed to hiding it.

do you have any scum reads at this point?

Slight read on Esp.
Slightly stronger read on Anti.
And the weirdest read on Elyse.

[LucianRoy]

Wait, why do I have two votes?

[Endless Possibilities]

Slightly stronger read on Anti.
And the weirdest read on Elyse.

elaborate on both of these?

p-edit: pretty sure that's a VC error and that he forgot to take away Empking's vote on Esp

[Marquis]

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  All errors fixed! Let me know if you see anything else fishy.
  
  
  
  

[LucianRoy]

Slightly stronger read on Anti.
And the weirdest read on Elyse.

elaborate on both of these?

p-edit: pretty sure that's a VC error and that he forgot to take away Empking's vote on Esp

Anti tried to paint me as scum for taking your claim at face value, and his other reason was because I like to thoroughly explain myself.

It's a really weird read on Elyse. It's hard to describe. It's like if the game was a person, or group of people/ good friends chatting with one another, Elyse is the awkward person who chimes in on obvious or minute details. She hasn't even said much at that. I look for people who are outsiders, and things that make them stick out from the general crowd on day1. Sometimes it's scum-indicative, sometimes it isn't.
It's basically a back-up read. I'm not really going to pursue it because it isn't exactly grounded in anything except my perception of that person in relation to the current state of the game.

[LucianRoy]

I'm actually considering moving my vote back to antihero.
I'll wait for a response first.

[Soren]

Listening to a different Taylor Swift song from each vote count is such a delight

• thank you for your appreciation! it means a lot to me and my work ^^

[Elyse]

I'm townreading EP. I like their posts and usually I can't read hydras for shit so yay. Soren also gives off a townvibe. I don't really have scumreads yet though.

I think someone asking LR for his read on Espeo, followed by him giving it and then voting Espeo seems a little off. Any time someone has to be prompted to make a vote is scummy to me. I don't think Anti's point that he seems too eager to believe EP holds much weight but I see where he's coming from and agree that LR does seem to post filler sometimes.

But then again, LR's read on me, as strange as it is, does seem rather genuine.

@Empking
Why are you townreading Espeonage?

[LucianRoy]

I'm townreading EP. I like their posts and usually I can't read hydras for shit so yay. Soren also gives off a townvibe. I don't really have scumreads yet though.

I think someone asking LR for his read on Espeo, followed by him giving it and then voting Espeo seems a little off. Any time someone has to be prompted to make a vote is scummy to me. I don't think Anti's point that he seems too eager to believe EP holds much weight but I see where he's coming from and agree that LR does seem to post filler sometimes.

But then again, LR's read on me, as strange as it is, does seem rather genuine.

@Empking
Why are you townreading Espeonage?

After answering empking's question, I realized my reason was kind of worth a vote. Even if it was only a barely decent reason.

[Not_Mafia]

oh, MS also has Bookitty as town, but that's the only read he's given me so far

Why isn't MS posting?

[LucianRoy]

Why are there so many votes on Not_Mafia?

[Espeonage]

reverse psychology

[Marquis]

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  Om of the Nom

  and

  The Bulge

  have not posted in over 48 hours, and are being prodded.
  
  
  
  

[LucianRoy]

It gets surprisingly quiet here at night.
Is anybody here?

[killerjester]

Hey ho, kinda tired since I stayed out to have coffee with supportive friends and was on the phone for a bit when I got home but I sincerely do want to make an effort in this game because Taylor has always been able to pick my spirits up from bad places.

• same for me gurl. i'm sorry for your loss, and i hope both taytay and your friends have brightened your day. <3

First off, Lucian is town af. So UNVOTE:

His reads are transparent, feel very natural, and I found myself following his train of thought with regards to EP's role. Some things

shouldn't

be pried. Specifically, when a claimed PR says something like this...

What, don't tell me, you're a hated voteless?

not quite, but you have the right idea

...it's clear to me that EP's limited reveal was intentional, rather than a initially confusing description of what was meant to be a full reveal. Subsequently, Lucian's analysis in [#67] makes perfect sense. A player can either doubt EP's claim, and continue to pressure the reveal on the grounds that the claim is scummy. BUT failing that, the correct move is to trust that EP knows how to play their role and control the share of information to our best advantage. Maybe they have additional power and are hiding that fact to live past N1. Maybe there

isn't

anything else special to the role and they are trying to fabricate PR-worth to draw the scum kill.

This thought process makes sense.

Personally, the Hated/Doubled-Voting power is a believable claim balance wise and I'm leaning towards town EP because scum double-voters are ridiculously overpowered. EP's also been active and engaging with the other players, to reinforce my townread on their claim.

I haven't been able to read anyone as scum to a significant degree so far. My best guess would be Antihero. His grasp at Lucian is very weak. He cherry-picks portions of Lucian's posts as unnecessary fluff despite the fact that Lucian has, for the most part, posted very substantially - providing reads and explaining himself well. And Anti's remarks on EP's claim are a

classic

example of casting doubt without actually saying it's bullshit. Feels like he's trying to steer town away from believing EP but leaving room to backpedal if we don't take the bait.

VOTE: Antihero

That's all I got for tonight. Gotta leave some time to post in [REDACTED] before I get to bed.

[Om of the Nom]

srry for not posting markey ily but sad days happeend but im ok now guys hello yes it is i om le nom

quick skim says EP/Soren town and elyse and esp make me unsure not gonna vote yet whats up someone talk to me

[The Bulge]

Busy week, sorry y'all. I'm going to bed now but I'll read up and post in the morning/tomorrow afternoon.

[Empking]

My town read on Esp is that he's asking stuff that risk drawing him bad attention for things now worth the scum team doing.

[Bookitty]

I'm liking Elyse for town. I don't see the weirdness; her reactions look really unforced to me.

On the other hand, though, I looked at LucianRoy again because killerjester said he had given reads and I surely didn't remember any of substance (which in itself isn't all that surprising). I see a lot of IIOA there but not a ton of relevant content.

I'd like to hear more about this specific game and less about the theory of Mafia from LucianRoy. My vote on Not_Mafia was an RVS thing, but if he doesn't contribute more it can go right back there too.

VOTE: LucianRoy

[Soren]

Meta reading LucianRoy, I'm leaning scum because of how he explains himself more than trying to scum hunt.

VOTE: LucianRoy

[Soren]

Not_Mafia had quite a lot of votes on him and he didn't really react to it. Possible scum trying to wait for someone to take the hit (get more votes) before he starts posting more?

[killerjester]

Can I get a link to the game you're meta-reading him from?

[Serenity East November]

• 
  
  
  
  
  "This drive is very beautiful," I say to myself as I sip a kale strawberry smoothie that I had made with my super high-tech VitaMix 5200 blender before leaving on my journey to save my bestie Taylor Swift's secrets from evil.
  
  Then all of a suddenly the smoothie went flying out of my hands and right out the window of my Toyota Prius! "OMG!" I say to myself. "I must have hit a

  bump

  in the road... well at least it did not spill all over my new Vera Wang gold silk cardigan. That would have been very bad!"