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[Marquis]

V O T E C O U N T

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It's a new soundtrack;
I could dance to this beeeeeeat (beeeeeeeeeat) forevermore.

— "Welcome To New York",

1989

(4)

Antihero

— Endless Possibilities, Empking, killerjester

(L-3)

(0)

Aristophanes

—

(0)

Bookitty

—

(0)

Elyse

—

(0)

Empking

—

(0)

Endless Possibilities

—

(2)

Espeonage

— Not_Mafia, LucianRoy

(L-5)

(1)

killerjester

— The Bulge

(L-6)

(3)

LucianRoy

— Antihero, Soren, Elyse

(L-4)

(1)

Not_Mafia

— Espeonage

(L-6)

(0)

Om of the Nom

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(1)

Soren

— Bookitty

(L-6)

(0)

The Bulge

—

(2)

Not Voting

— Aristophanes, Om of the Nom

With

13

alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-04-05 21:15:00)

(Sun Apr 5 @ 21:15:00 EDT).



Limited activity from me until the weekend due to school. I'll be here, but probably not as often.

[Soren]

I think that you are trying to look busy by asking questions that don't actually produce anything useful even if they were answered.

I'm not "trying to look busy". I'm trying to generate some discussion or at least try and get some activity into the game because it's been too quiet for my liking. Judging from the quietness, obviously there hasn't been much to comment about. So of course the things that I point out or ask about won't have much significance. I just wanted to see if maybe I could get more than what there currently is in the game.

Your question to Antihero I'm going to leave alone because he may still answer it and then you could point to his amazingly useful answer and say, "Neener Neener" to me in a smug fashion.

I'm not that kind of person to rub things in people's face so you don't need to worry about that.

Your question to me, however, I feel okay about answering. If you go back (way back) in the game and ask people (including me) about a post that is clearly a RVS joke, they're going to think you're reaching pretty far.

Okay I didn't really realise that it was a joke per se. I just found it odd and didn't really give it any further thought, thus I questioned it.

And I must have overlooked it or didn't really care about it in the beginning, thus I haven't said anything till now.

Either way, asking about it was weird, especially since you then backed off of it by saying you didn't have any expectation about what I would say.

I wouldn't really say that. I just wanted to understand the nature of your post, which you have now explained to me.

If you didn't think it was a scumtell, why would you ask?

I didn't really like how it was an obvious OMGUS vote. So there was a slight scum read there.

What did you gain from my answer?

To understand if it really was a RVS vote.

Why did it matter that my vote on Not Mafia was OMGUS?

Because it shows a negative reaction to a simple RVS vote on you.

Asking lots of questions when you don't care about the answers is a pretty common hallmark of scum play.

I wouldn't say that I didn't care about the answer. I ask because I want to know/learn something and gather information which may help in outing scum.

The whole interaction between the two of you is odd. I don't like it and I don't trust it.

We're referencing quite a few games we've had together in the past.

I think you're scummy for it.

Fair enough.

[LucianRoy]

Bookitty might be scum.
I still town-read Soren, despite his vote on me.

If I had to call a team, it'd be Bookitty and Elyse together. Maybe antihero, but he's not even here, so call that a long shot.

The only reason I think it's a little weird is because, from my point of view, Bookitty voted me for my read on Elyse, Soren stacked his vote, and once people saw the shift, Elyse jumped at the first post she thought looked relatively scummy from me. Now Bookitty is going after Soren partly due to him questioning Antihero, and partly because of him sheeping her vote.

First of all, it's kind of contradictory to vote someone who sheeped your vote for an entirely different reason, and I did notice the OMGUS earlier. I thought the OMGUS vote was only slightly strange, but I didn't bring it up because I deemed it to be RVS playfulness.

I don't even know why Boo is going after Soren. They seem like unsubstantial reasons to me. He's asking questions, something he usually does whether he's one alignment or the other. Also, her read on us being suspicious due to our interactions is probably due to us being friends. There are buddies, and then there are buddies.

Speaking of interactions, Soren, you said something about looking over my posts earlier. Any fruit on the vine?

[LucianRoy]

Oh, why am I still voting Esp...

UNVOTE: Espeonage

Probably going to vote one of the names I mentioned above. Soon.

[LucianRoy]

That Aristophanes guy should vote somebody.
Om too.

[Soren]

Speaking of interactions, Soren, you said something about looking over my posts earlier. Any fruit on the vine?

After going over some of your posts again, I didn't really put much thought when I voted for you. I was mainly influenced by other people's reasons for voting for you.

You don't exactly scream scum to me right now.

So

Unvote: LucianRoy

[Elyse]

Bookitty pressures Soren -> Soren unvotes.

Elyse no likey.

[Om of the Nom]

That Aristophanes guy should vote somebody.
Om too.

who do u think i should vote

[LucianRoy]

That Aristophanes guy should vote somebody.
Om too.

who do u think i should vote

We could play hot-potato with Antihero, and see what happens.
But, if he ends up getting replaced since he hasn't posted anything to further my scumread, then you should vote Bookitty.

[Not_Mafia]

Can someone act scummy please?

[Marquis]

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  Endless Possibilities

  has not posted in over 48 hours, and is being prodded.
  
  
  
  

[Om of the Nom]

That Aristophanes guy should vote somebody.
Om too.

who do u think i should vote

We could play hot-potato with Antihero, and see what happens.
But, if he ends up getting replaced since he hasn't posted anything to further my scumread, then you should vote Bookitty.

we can start with boobkitty
VOTE: bookitty

[LucianRoy]

That sounds like a perfectly fine choice for the time being.
VOTE: Bookitty

[Endless Possibilities]

pple who vote bookitty must be kitty-haters

VOTE: om

[Aristophanes]

Soren is town as shit, Bookitty is probably town.

Can you elaborate on these reads please? What gives you town reads on them?
Does their recent butting of heads change this for you?

<snip>
do you have any scum reads at this point?

Slight read on Esp.
Slightly stronger read on Anti.
And the weirdest read on Elyse.

Wait, what kind of reads do you have on these guys?
I get that you think Anti scummy, right?

Was ESP a scum read too or a town read?

[Okay, so it was a scum read. What changed this, other than losing steam?]
Also, I don't think you ever elaborated on that read.
You kinda explained what your "weird read" was, but never said which alignment it was being attributed to.

Who do you think is scummy, Aristophanes?

I could see Soren being overly-active scum. He's said an awful lot, but his posts are mostly devoid of content. I had liked his tone while reading through originally, but on a reread he just seems to be floating by.
Also, pulling at something from RVS when we're 7 pages in is a little ridiculous and, as you pointed out, really had no point to it. Why not try to make conversation around something newer that might actually get a read?
Also, he followed it up with the following:

<snip>

Your question to me, however, I feel okay about answering. If you go back (way back) in the game and ask people (including me) about a post that is clearly a RVS joke, they're going to think you're reaching pretty far.

Okay I didn't really realise that it was a joke per se. I just found it odd and didn't really give it any further thought, thus I questioned it.

And I must have overlooked it or didn't really care about it in the beginning, thus I haven't said anything till now.

<snip>

What did you gain from my answer?

To understand if it really was a RVS vote.

Why did it matter that my vote on Not Mafia was OMGUS?

Because it shows a negative reaction to a simple RVS vote on you.
<snip>

In the first quote, he admits he didn't think it was a joke, and earlier seemed to not notice it was RVS.
He then goes on about how he was trying to figure out if it was RVS and make a negative read of you from it.
Seems contradictory, like scum weaving tales.

VOTE: Soren

Ninja'd I think, will read.

[Aristophanes]

Wait, why are people voting Boo again??
I don't get it...

[LucianRoy]

<snip>
do you have any scum reads at this point?

Slight read on Esp.
Slightly stronger read on Anti.
And the weirdest read on Elyse.

Wait, what kind of reads do you have on these guys?
I get that you think Anti scummy, right?

Was ESP a scum read too or a town read?

[Okay, so it was a scum read. What changed this, other than losing steam?]
Also, I don't think you ever elaborated on that read.
You kinda explained what your "weird read" was, but never said which alignment it was being attributed to.

Um, Ep asked for my scum reads. *see quoted posts* All of those are scum-reads. Esp was a scum read with the entire question thing, but then EP kind of talked me out of it. Also, he's inactive. You should read.

Your vote on Soren is understandable, but I still town-read him.
He's just like that.

[Aristophanes]

Oh, I'm just dumb and missed that.
Why does the "weirdness" from Elyse inspire a scum read? Wouldn't scum try to blend in a little better?

Also, you didn't really say why the vote on Boo.
Your post 152 doesn't really explain much other than an associative read with others who may or may not be scum. Wouldn't that kind of logic be better after we get a flip?

[LucianRoy]

Slightly stronger read on Anti.
And the weirdest read on Elyse.

elaborate on both of these?

p-edit: pretty sure that's a VC error and that he forgot to take away Empking's vote on Esp

Anti tried to paint me as scum for taking your claim at face value, and his other reason was because I like to thoroughly explain myself.

It's a really weird read on Elyse. It's hard to describe. It's like if the game was a person, or group of people/ good friends chatting with one another, Elyse is the awkward person who chimes in on obvious or minute details. She hasn't even said much at that. I look for people who are outsiders, and things that make them stick out from the general crowd on day1. Sometimes it's scum-indicative, sometimes it isn't.
It's basically a back-up read. I'm not really going to pursue it because it isn't exactly grounded in anything except my perception of that person in relation to the current state of the game.

[LucianRoy]

That was then, but this is now.

Also, why not use that logic for lynching Boo right now?
I already have three scumreads.
Anti
Boo
Elyse

All three of them appear to be connected in someway or another, and none of them have voted for each other.

[LucianRoy]

Oh, except in RVS. Anti made a vote on Boo, but whateve.

[Aristophanes]

That was then, but this is now.

Also, why not use that logic for lynching Boo right now?
I already have three scumreads.
Anti
Boo
Elyse

All three of them appear to be connected in someway or another, and none of them have voted for each other.

I mean, I think this logic is okay to note, but to scumread people based on it feels an awful lot like you're setting up lynches for later by connecting people now.
Like I say, without a flip to confirm one of them is scum, how can we scumread others based on it?

Plus, there are other reasons why they might defend each other or seem linked without being scummates.
It just seems like a stretch to me, especially D1.

[LucianRoy]

@Aristo In regards to scum "blending in," that's kind of wine-ish, but it is rooted in a common strategy.
Sorry, I thought you didn't read my post so I brought it up without elaboration.

pedit: What do you mean? When you scumread people, don't you make logical connections with the other people you scumread? If you want to out scum, you have to find those connections early so they don't disappear later. I connected all the people I currently scumread for different reasons because it was simple, and seemed like a simple thing to do. You don't need a scum flip to "confirm" one of them as scum in order to form cohesive scum reads on the others. Plus, I'm trying to lynch one of my reads right now, if they flip scum, then the rest will be easy.

Well, if it seems like a stretch, then you might want to blame it on nearly half the roster having less posts than the mod. I don't have a ton to go at the moment, and we aren't making a ton of progress.

[Elyse]

Aristophanes
Empking
The Bulge

All three haven't voted each other. I found the scumteam guys.

[LucianRoy]

Not the point I was trying to make.
This ties into my 152 post.