New York 182 - Game Over

[Thor665]

And yes Thor, this is not a meta argument as you classify it, you would call it a gut read.

I would call that a meta read - just one with a painfully tiny sample size.

@copper and thor, so long as I didn't miss a vote anywhere, if you used only the VC then you would recieve the exact same results as I got. Policy lynch me for lying if that is wrong.

Copy that.

@Gork - I don't really find Mneumonic scummy for his "lie" - this is different than the way Elusive lied. I can explain if you need me to, but I think it's pretty obvious at this stage the differences...though I suppose maybe that's me setting myself up for rage.

Eh, look at the way each responded to being called a liar. One backed up their comment with a *vast wall*...that didn't support their claims. The other said 'yup, bit of a derp, but if you look at it this way you get my info'.

Barring someone being less lazy than me (and I don't expect that in this game, particularly) and researching the VCs to see if there is any other discrepency (and, I'll admit, him saying there isn't one makes me suspect there won't be one) I would not particularly support the Mneumonic wagon at this point with my (admittadly vague - albeit not due to lack of asking!) understanding of the case on him.

busy week, will post sometime tomorrow

You are full of fail.

[Marquis]

hey thor
shut the fuck up
god

i just woke up, need to run some errands but i'll be back in a few hours

[Antihero]

thor has done an awesome job of sinking this game into apathy with walls more than fuzzy or ns could ever hope to with lurking

[Thor665]

thor has done an awesome job of sinking this game into apathy with walls more than fuzzy or ns could ever hope to with lurking

Is that why you started scumreading me - the walls?

[Antihero]

no, i don't think it means you're scum

i'm noting that you past the point of diminishing returns a while ago.

[Thor665]

I started posting walls fairly early in the game.

Why do/did you scumread me?

What do you think of the wagon on you and its growth and growing verbal support in the late day phase?

What do you think o fmy case on you - which you have not addressed yet?

[Antihero]

What do you think o fmy case on you - which you have not addressed yet?

if it's based on me+sakura, i would like to direct YOU to touhou as well.

[Antihero]

What do you think of the wagon on you and its growth and growing verbal support in the late day phase?

seeing as no one is actually doing anything, i think you're exaggerating this point.

[Antihero]

Why do/did you scumread me?

the. walls. are. crap.

you know what i had to do to find your "case" on me? go to your iso, control+f my name and it showed up about halfway through. you've dragged this game into "let's argue over semantics and bullshit" mode instead of looking at the big picture and that's a LOT more scum motivated than town.

[Flubbernugget]

So mnemonic/fuzzy/?? scumteam?

[Thor665]

What do you think o fmy case on you - which you have not addressed yet?

if it's based on me+sakura, i would like to direct YOU to touhou as well.

What will I find there that will change my mind?

What do you think of the wagon on you and its growth and growing verbal support in the late day phase?

seeing as no one is actually doing anything, i think you're exaggerating this point.

The wagon on you has gained all of the recent votes (2-3) and also has had two additional people suggest willingness to vote you within the past 24 hours.
The other contender wagons are one that sits at 2 votes with no one talking about it, and one that sits at 6 votes, having just lost one to the Anti wagon and having no verbal support (And me dinging it repeatedly for lacking anything resembling a cohesive case...so, in other words, it is being attacked, has been for days, and has no one stepping up to defend it - meaning its a weak and dying wagon)

So, yes, i do think suggesting that the wagon on you is strong and getting stronger is immensely a valid opinion.

Any other thoughts on it other than "It's not that strong"?

Why do/did you scumread me?

the. walls. are. Smurf.

So...you do scumread me for the walls?

you know what i had to do to find your "case" on me? go to your iso, control+f my name and it showed up about halfway through. you've dragged this game into "let's argue over semantics and bullSmurf" mode instead of looking at the big picture and that's a LOT more scum motivated than town.

That makes a lot of sense - I made the case on you at the start of Day 2, so it showing up halfway through my ISO seems really likely...what does this prove or disprove? This really feels like a very empty attack post with no actual basis of scummy behavior attached to it. Oooooh - my case on you shows up *halfway* through my ISO!...well...sure...?

What big picture do you think I'm overlooking right now?
I don't think there is one. I mean, that *sounds* interesting, but...it also sounds empty. I have a scumread on people, I'm pursuing it, that's scumhunting, it's how the game is played.
What's the big picture that I'm occluding?

[Thor665]

So mnemonic/fuzzy/?? scumteam?

I have Fuzzy as town and Mneumonic as nullish.

Would you like to hop on the Anti wagon?
What's your read on him at the moment?

[Flubbernugget]

Anti seems very...squeamish as scum. Can't really explain it. Unfortunately a meta read isn't a reliable read in its own. Not convinced an anti wagon would put much life into the game either

[Thor665]

You're saying he does not feel squeamish to you here?

[Flubbernugget]

He does

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I would like Thor to post a claer case of why Anti is scum and Anti to respond to that. Also I would love to hear NS explain where I am wrong about him being scum... at this point I would love to hear NS post anything relevent and not dog pics,

Why NS is scum

* He is actively lurking, Not posting anything of substance and not helping the town in anyway. His vote is on the Mdevice wagon and he seem not a single bit interested in pushing it or posting anything at all. This is as if figures MD will be mislynched so he has to put zero effort into the game

* His interaction with Confscum is wierd for a town
1) He buddy buddy hers even though he is scum raeding her
2) he knows that he has an issue with reading his friends and yet he still acting frienly to her
3) he asks if he vote vasoon even though he is scum reading her

* He was being opptunistic by forming the FOD wagon. Seems like he knew the Vasoon wagon was going nowhere and saw FOD as an easy target....which he was.

* Sakura pretty much ignored him even though
a) they are supposely friends in the game
b) he was buddying her
as I said it Sakura tends to ignore or distance herself from her scum buddies. This seems to be a constant in her meta

* he pretty much dismiss any bad interaction with him being friends with NS. He makes no attempt to acknowledge he made a mistake. The closest we get is the admittance he has an issue with playing against his friends here

I am pretty sure that atleast 1 between Anti and NS is scum. I would love to see NS lynched today. Since NS is MIA and seems to gllefully be so can anyone explain why we should lynch Mdevice over NS since NS has a clear connection to a confscum???

[TheFuzzylogic99]

edit
there is clear interaction between him and Sakura

[TheFuzzylogic99]

also should ay friends at Mafiascum. net and not in the game/////

[Antihero]

He does

argue this is like quilford's small town

straight face required whole way

go

[Antihero]

What will I find there that will change my mind?

if you're basing the argument off of sakura+i interactions, the interactions in that game were exactly the same and i was town and she was scum.
so, it undermines that argument.

[Antihero]

The wagon on you has gained all of the recent votes (2-3) and also has had two additional people suggest willingness to vote you within the past 24 hours.

yeah, let's not pretend this is anything other than motivated by apathy

[copper223]

@Anti
Why do you think Seohyun is scum?

[Thor665]

I would like Thor to post a claer case of why Anti is scum and Anti to respond to that.

Welcome to the conversation already in progress between Anti and myself.
I have posted a clear case.
Anti has rather awkwardly in my opinion, responded to it. I have then challenged the response.
Feel free to look back at his and my last three or so posts and you'll get the entire thing.
I'll be over by my brick wall.

[ika]

VOTE: fuzzy

this is they lych i want today

[Antihero]

What big picture do you think I'm overlooking right now?

well a legit, readable case on the person you're voting is a start.