New York 180 (Endgame)

[Shinobi]

@Gm: Everyone in your lynch lists that wound up fighting among themselves. Your "would lynch" list, specifically.

My 'would lynch' list is you, Ozgin, and Kitz. You and Kitz hadn't really gotten into it when I posted that and Ozgin hasn't fought with anyone that I remember.

How is that 'fighting among themselves,' exactly?

I've been fighting with both of them.

[Shinobi]

Btw, is TSO is actually a role then scum has to have some crazy stuff to make up for it.

All we've seen flip thus far is that weird roleblocker permutation.

[Cheetory6]

I need to reread Marquis again.
I liked the case on Wake, but I remember liking stuff Marquis has done this cycle.
Won't be happening until tonight at the earliest because lifethings.

[Aeronaut]

Btw, is TSO is actually a role then scum has to have some crazy stuff to make up for it.

All we've seen flip thus far is that weird roleblocker permutation.

Non-consecuitive, too.

@Cheetory that's how I feel too. Wake's ISO was pretty bad, but Marquis during this day phase has seemed less jumpy and more genuine.

[SilverWolf]

I'll ISO Marquis. Wake was really scummy and his ISO was bad. Marquis looked better than Wake. But I'll take a look again at them both.

[goodmorning]

:/
Can you say whether you were one of the kills on N1?
I have a hard time seeing scum fakeclaiming vig in a game which I'm pretty sure has one based on N1.

I have an easy time seeing an SK fakeclaiming Vig. Actually I don't see why Scum might not fakeclaim Vig anyway given that there's been a certain amount of role doubling and on the offchance that it's an SK who probably wouldn't CC.

@Gm: Everyone in your lynch lists that wound up fighting among themselves. Your "would lynch" list, specifically.

My 'would lynch' list is you, Ozgin, and Kitz. You and Kitz hadn't really gotten into it when I posted that and Ozgin hasn't fought with anyone that I remember.

How is that 'fighting among themselves,' exactly?

I've been fighting with both of them.

They certainly haven't seemed to notice, and neither have I.

[T S O]

Btw, is TSO is actually a role then scum has to have some crazy stuff to make up for it.

All we've seen flip thus far is that weird roleblocker permutation.

We haven't seen anything flip.

[Kitz]

We haven't seen anything flip.

I think he reffers to Piss = Roleblocker scum.

[T S O]

My point remains, Kitz. We have seen one scum member flip. With all the information roles we have, you can bet Scum have a Watcher/Tracker/Cop. You can also bet they have at least one other powerful PR. And they've had 4 nights to gather information.

[T S O]

Marquis, this is

your fucking fault.

I want you dead.

[Kitz]

Hm, if it's not possible to have a role that disguises its role somehow with another, then we can confirm the fact that there's just one dead scum.

I'm all too confused with the flood of PR.

[T S O]

Kitz, vote Marquis.

[Shinobi]

:/
Can you say whether you were one of the kills on N1?
I have a hard time seeing scum fakeclaiming vig in a game which I'm pretty sure has one based on N1.

I have an easy time seeing an SK fakeclaiming Vig. Actually I don't see why Scum might not fakeclaim Vig anyway given that there's been a certain amount of role doubling and on the offchance that it's an SK who probably wouldn't CC.

@Gm: Everyone in your lynch lists that wound up fighting among themselves. Your "would lynch" list, specifically.

My 'would lynch' list is you, Ozgin, and Kitz. You and Kitz hadn't really gotten into it when I posted that and Ozgin hasn't fought with anyone that I remember.

How is that 'fighting among themselves,' exactly?

I've been fighting with both of them.

They certainly haven't seemed to notice, and neither have I.

You should try reading the game at some point, then. It might help you notice things that are actually happening.

[Shinobi]

Btw, is TSO is actually a role then scum has to have some crazy stuff to make up for it.

All we've seen flip thus far is that weird roleblocker permutation.

We haven't seen anything flip.

Yes we have?

lol wtf

[Kitz]

Kitz, vote Marquis.

Hmm, my condition for that vote is that you post a reads-list of everyone currently alive chronologically.

VOTE: Marquis

[T S O]

Btw, is TSO is actually a role then scum has to have some crazy stuff to make up for it.

All we've seen flip thus far is that weird roleblocker permutation.

We haven't seen anything flip.

Yes we have?

lol wtf

I often wonder, when people misinterpret me, is it because I'm being genuinely unclear, or my Irish vernacular is uncommon on this forum?

Yes, Shinobi, I know we have seen Non-Consecutive Roleblocker flip. I'm saying we haven't seen any real scum power flip yet, or as I put it "We haven't seen anything flip." Perhaps the word yet was needed.

[T S O]

Kitz, vote Marquis.

Hmm, my condition for that vote is that you post a reads-list of everyone currently alive chronologically.

VOTE: Marquis

Normally, I am against doing this - but I am extremely likely to die tonight, and my reads are not particularly veiled anymore.

Chronologically means in order of time - I don't get what you mean by a chronological readslist.

[Kitz]

Chronologically means in order of time - I don't get what you mean by a chronological readslist.

How your reads changed over time in chronological order, including now.

[goodmorning]

@Ozgin: Have you been fighting with Shinobi?

[Cheetory6]

Please explain to me what changed in between these posts to make you go from "I feel pretty good about Goodmorning town" to suddenly "GM is null, because she's being apathetic"

Why is this suddenly convincing to you in terms of TSO's alignment when something similar happened with his read on ABR and I pointed it out SEVERAL times??

[goodmorning]

@Shinobi: OK, first off 'Ozgin' appears only 12 times in your ISO, and 4 of those times were when you quoted me, so no, you haven't been fighting with Ozgin. You had one conversation with Ozgin, which you terminated because you were getting 'annoyed.' It was ended calmly and without any apparent bad feeling.

Shit, I've argued with Ozgin more than you have, though most of that was because I was pissed at ABR.

As for Kitz, calling someone stupid doesn't mean you're arguing with them, it just means you're a dick. Asking someone to explain their assertions also does not equate to arguing.

Finally, Ozgin has scumread Kitz occasionally, but that also doesn't equate to arguing. I scumread TSO but I am very much not arguing with him at present.

ANYWAY, thanks for telling me to read the game. It has been incredibly illuminating.

[goodmorning]

(By which I mean

Vote: Shinobi

)

[T S O]

nah

[Shinobi]

(By which I mean

Vote: Shinobi

)

???

[goodmorning]

Shit, I replaced in after Ozgin and Shinobi refers to me more than to Ozgin (21 total, under goodmorning and gm combined).

INTERESTING.