New York 180 (Endgame)

[T S O]

I am almost sure that I have a reason for this, but for some reason, #4823 is making me think I don't.

Let me think.

[Aeronaut]

Like, I feel like scum wouldn't have two roleblockers. So... I don't see why you need to create WIFOM at all.

[T S O]

They wouldn't have, that would be shit design.

[Marquis]

bulletproof vig

or bulletproof sk

hmmm

[T S O]

One sec - I find it hard to believe I didn't have a reason for secrecy.

If I can't think of it, I'll fullclaim, but I'm almost sure there's one.

Goddamn, brain, do your fucking job.

[T S O]

bulletproof vig

or bulletproof sk

hmmm

Bulletproof nothing? I'm not claiming bulletproof.

[Aeronaut]

A vigilante on a town with like 7 other PRs is really overpowered town, even if 1 shot.

Who were your kills each night?

[Aeronaut]

I don't really care about how many shots you have, moreso what crumbs you left. If any.

[Marquis]

I don't get it - either this is a scum power, or someone physically deleted the post.

fucking lol

is this the part where the rest of us jump on and start speculating obviously non-normal roles to take advantage of the newbies' repeatedly mentioned paranoia of them?

pedit you claimed scum tried to shoot you night 3 or something didn't you?

tso is sk imo. pisskop kill if it's his does feel a bit set up through the iso

[T S O]

Okay, I don't know why I thought keeping my role veiled was so important. Thor did it in Masquerade, for people who have read that, and it worked well, so I think I was going for the same thing here and didn't fully think it through?

[T S O]

I don't get it - either this is a scum power, or someone physically deleted the post.

fucking lol

is this the part where the rest of us jump on and start speculating obviously non-normal roles to take advantage of the newbies' repeatedly mentioned paranoia of them?

pedit you claimed scum tried to shoot you night 3 or something didn't you?

tso is sk imo. pisskop kill if it's his does feel a bit set up through the iso

please fucking lynch this thing now

[T S O]

I claimed the Doctor was on me, I never claimed Bulletproof.

[Marquis]

what crumbs you left. If any.

i've found in my experience lately scum is just as likely to crumb fakeclaims early as town is to crumb realclaims

not to mention the quintessential serial killer fakeclaim is vig, and is often decided upon from the start

[T S O]

Non-Consecutive Vigilante. pisskop n1, MathBlade n3.

[Shinobi]

Oh so you just voted me for garbage reasons again.

Whining loudly about this exact thing before freaking about how many votes you have, when... Oh, not even that many votes. Then jabber about past stuff.
That, without constructively playing. I'm seeing probably lack of initiative and direct discussion on appropriate things.
Derp.

I can see these are words but I don't see how they coincide with actual things.

*Where is the lack of initiative?
*Where is the lack of direct discussion on "appropriate things" and where do you think my attention should be?
*Why does me "freaking out" about how many votes I have make me scum?

[T S O]

what crumbs you left. If any.

i've found in my experience lately scum is just as likely to crumb fakeclaims early as town is to crumb realclaims

not to mention the quintessential serial killer fakeclaim is vig, and is often decided upon from the start

discredit discredit discredit

[Marquis]

I claimed the Doctor was on me, I never claimed Bulletproof.

lmao

"You have been protected by the Doctor."

"You have lost your Bulletproof vest/shot."

which of those actually appears in normal games now

[T S O]

Shinobi please stop going after Kitz and fucking vote Marquis before he manipulates the Newbies into thinking I'm the SK or whatever his bullshit scenario is

[Aeronaut]

Why did you decide to kill mathblade?

[T S O]

What the fuck are you even saying? I

don't

fucking know I was protected - goodmorning and I had an entire discussion about this. I'm assuming it due to missing kills.

[Aeronaut]

I claimed the Doctor was on me, I never claimed Bulletproof.

lmao

"You have been protected by the Doctor."

"You have lost your Bulletproof vest/shot."

which of those actually appears in normal games now

???

[SilverWolf]

Pisskop kill makes sense from a vig standpoint but mathblade does not.

Please explain it.

pedit: I'm liking you less and less Marquis, your reaction to this claim is scummy

[Shinobi]

Shinobi please stop going after Kitz and fucking vote Marquis before he manipulates the Newbies into thinking I'm the SK or whatever his bullshit scenario is

I don't get sucked into "him v me" scenarios, sorry.

I'll comment on it when it matters.

[T S O]

Actually, the point about the vig is completely relevant - our vig had "presumably" shot scum on night 1, which shows they are a competent player and shouldn't have to be limited to doing the policy work of the town.

The MathBlade kill was also optimal last night, because ABR did not retract his claim - thus, the vig has yet to really slip up, reinforcing my point.

if MathBlade is Vengeful then why did ABR track her to Ellie? How has Math concluded that ABR has gone from 100% scum to town?

Can we all just talk about MathBlade's what-the-fuck stance for a bit?

TSO you said you were townreading ABR a while ago.
Why are you voting him over Math if you think I'm right? :/.

Because either he dies from vig or lynch and the vig could do better than shooting him.

So, let's get this straight: ABR got a result last night, which wasn't you, as town, and has decided to lie yet again... ?

Yep However when I explain it plainly and you do but attack what is clear it is frustrating.

ABR even said so.

The vig could do better and shoot you as ABR is town.

The vig is never going to shoot me - it's likely the vig is going to shoot you. If I were the vig, I'd already have the action sent.

Crumbs. Last one especially relevant.

[Shinobi]

Btw, if someone wants to tell me why a serial killer would be totally invested in this game and have the highest postcount out of everyone, then I'm all ears.