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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:09 am

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I do. Doesn't mean I'm not impatient though
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:21 am

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It's Easter week and I'm catholic goddammit!

There's still loads of time so I'm not sure why people are rushing

Here's my vote though

VOTE: patrick

Also, as stated before, I liked serras response to me, and as knee-jerky and premature as it seems, I feel like serra is one of those people where, as soon as you get.a read on him it shouldn't be let go, else Shit ensues
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:24 am

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Why Patrick? Last you mentioned him you said he could be scum if your top 3 scumspects were wrong, but you had an overall Town impression of him.
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:43 am

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You changed to town

Quill has gotten townier I think, but things are kinda weird there ( also, with Mina here I doubt he would get lynches and is probably better looked at later especially if what Mina says about him is true)

And I am talking to my mates about molla, but iirc, they don't like him very much
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:45 am

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So, currently I am sitting at molla/patrick as most likely.

I also completely disagree with regfan re you and quill double bussing
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:47 am

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You weren't particularly sure of your read on me before. What solidified a Townread on me? Did you speak with your team about me?
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:47 am

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If I had to take a guess now, it would be alchemist/Serra. Everyone else has had at least something that seems town, some stronger than others.
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:47 am

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In post 206, Ms Marangal wrote:Also,
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may be around tomorrow or Friday but don't count on it. Will for sure will be back on Tuesday though

Also, I think this was missed?

This effectively means I won't be around this weekend, and might not be around tomorrow or Monday

Pedit: kinda

You also talked. Alot.
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:49 am

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In post 306, Patrick wrote:If I had to take a guess now, it would be alchemist/Serra. Everyone else has had at least something that seems town, some stronger than others.

Have you not read alchs most recent posts?
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:50 am

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Yes. I'll take it as read that you think they look protown; I don't see that at all.
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:59 am

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In post 307, Ms Marangal wrote:
In post 206, Ms Marangal wrote:Also,
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may be around tomorrow or Friday but don't count on it. Will for sure will be back on Tuesday though

Also, I think this was missed?

This effectively means I won't be around this weekend, and might not be around tomorrow or Monday

Pedit: kinda

You also talked. Alot.

In post 308, Ms Marangal wrote:
In post 306, Patrick wrote:If I had to take a guess now, it would be alchemist/Serra. Everyone else has had at least something that seems town, some stronger than others.

Have you not read alchs most recent posts?


Can you point to anything specifically? Your read seems heavily based on my high post volume right now. Also, has Patrick done anything you would classify as scummy, or is your vote 100% a case of him being less Towny than others?
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:21 am

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I've seen plenty of games where someone gets wagoned for weak early play, never gets a chance to recover and is lynched, only to flip town. Probably anyone with any experience has. And alot of the time, I find myself hating the herd mentality and the obvious confirmation bias that flies around those day 1 mislynches, as people just paint their target in a scummy light and ignore protown signs or potential protown signs. When I see that from the outside I facepalm, when I'm in the game I often have doubts that the day 1 wagonee is scum, even if I'm on them. I read their posts and often just get a gut feeling they're going to be lynched and flip town.

The thing is, in this game, I don't read Alchemists posts and get a gut feeling that he's going to come back as town. I'm nowhere near certain he's scum, but I definitely don't buy that just talking alot makes him town, which you seem to be implying, Mara. I'd like you to back up that read with something more solid.

Quilford does seem town in his recent posts. I also hate people suspecting me so I can identify with that. Pretty happy that CES and CDB agree with me.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:34 am

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"why are your reads so jerky?"

"you're scum because you're being hypocritical, and applying reasons for scum me that also apply to you"

"when did you solidify your read on me"

Ect... I'll match these up later to actual posts, though it shouldn't be to hard to see what is what.

Also, when I said he talked, I was stating that he has given me alot more to work off of compared to before when I had a maybe town, possibly scum read off him. Posting more does not make him town, but it's more he's posted
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:39 am

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*more WHAT he's posted
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:51 am

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Also, on the threshold of being lynched, he is refusing to push another wagon, and continues his quil wagon when it seems like no one else is going to join that wagon, and really isn't even pushing his wagon properly and is more doing his own thing with the pushes, and seems to be interested in working with people outside of his scum reads, trying to understand them but not , cohesively working with them which reads more town than scum because it gives zero room to manipulate people
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:05 am

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In post 312, Ms Marangal wrote:"why are your reads so jerky?"

"you're scum because you're being hypocritical, and applying reasons for scum me that also apply to you"

"when did you solidify your read on me"

Ect... I'll match these up later to actual posts, though it shouldn't be to hard to see what is what.

Also, when I said he talked, I was stating that he has given me alot more to work off of compared to before when I had a maybe town, possibly scum read off him. Posting more does not make him town, but it's more he's posted


Quilford said that first one though. I just questioned it.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:14 am

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Titus said she feels like Quilford is the watch-immune goon and the scumteam wants him protected at all costs. It's part of why she's hard scumreading Molla because she thought his push on me was as a defense of Quilford.

BBT feels Molla is town based on his latest posts and because he thinks there would be 1 scum on and 1 scum off my wagon, and I'm about 50/50 on Molla myself. I'm a lot less confident in my BBMolla read than I was before.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:30 am

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Also, Mara, you said you kinda talked with your team about me. Paraphrase what they said.

I also want to know if you talked with them about anyone else in the game and what they said there.
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:58 am

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In post 303, Ms Marangal wrote:And I am talking to my mates about molla, but iirc, they don't like him very much

why

In post 304, Ms Marangal wrote:So, currently I am sitting at molla/patrick as most likely.

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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:02 am

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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:19 am

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Molla who are your top Town reads?
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:31 pm

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Quil, Mina, Patrick
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:35 pm

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In post 319, BBmolla wrote:Mina any particular reason you're not interacting with me

Because you look like your town self, so you're not interesting to me. Sorry! <3
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:38 pm

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In post 321, BBmolla wrote:Quil, Mina, Patrick


Ok, I think I can see that given your posts so far.
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:47 pm

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In post 322, Mina wrote:
In post 319, BBmolla wrote:Mina any particular reason you're not interacting with me

Because you look like your town self, so you're not interesting to me. Sorry! <3


What would you say the main difference between scumMolla and TownMolla is? I saw something in the Sabotage game that made me think he's more Towny here, but I don't want to base it on just that game several months ago.

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