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Post Post #5400 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:52 am

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New players may sheep or if a player has gotten 1-2 mafia killed in row, then yes sheep otherwise its suspicious as hell and deserves a death sentence.
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Post Post #5401 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:53 am

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But relentless sheeping over and over because they blindly trust one individual?
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Post Post #5402 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:57 am

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Is the individual known to get scum killed? Then yes it makes sense. Is the individual not particularly well-renowned or doing anything amazing? Then no. I guess at the far end would be if it were a friend that you really trusted but even then only if the friend was particularly talented.

I'm not sure if you're asking me about dragonspawn who far too many people have to excuse for his play. If people have to excuse your for having some whack job playstyle then fix it or get fixed. :P
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Post Post #5403 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:03 am

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vc (after sleep im pissed and tired)
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Post Post #5404 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:06 am

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In post 5400, elusive wrote:New players may sheep or if a player has gotten 1-2 mafia killed in row, then yes sheep otherwise its suspicious as hell and deserves a death sentence.


Literally not how this game even works. By it's nature there's far more townies than mafia, so every single townie being able to write different albeit ironclad cases on mafia would make this a very boring game.

In post 5401, Ozgin wrote:But relentless sheeping over and over because they blindly trust one individual?


Afaik Aero has been tunneling dragonspawn almost all game and only dropped his scumread very, very recently.
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Post Post #5405 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:08 am

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"Only newer players can sheep."

Seriously. Rofl.
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Post Post #5406 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:12 am

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Don't selectively read or you detract from your own skill as a player and you really in particular don't need to do that.

Or did you really miss the other half of the equation?

Jesus, why isn't this one dead yet?
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Post Post #5407 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:24 am

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In post 5406, elusive wrote:Don't selectively read or you detract from your own skill as a player and you really in particular don't need to do that.

Or did you really miss the other half of the equation?

Jesus, why isn't this one dead yet?


I read the whole thing. It's all meaningless. Attaching more conditionals to a statement that's poorly thought out in the first place doesn't really make it more meaningful because the scenario you're suggesting is literally impossible.

None of what you're saying is relevant towards my alignment so shouting about it doesn't really phase me.
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Post Post #5408 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:25 am

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lol
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Post Post #5409 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:26 am

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SHOUTING is a bit more like this, child.
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Post Post #5410 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:41 am

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Okay.
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Post Post #5411 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:42 am

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In post 5406, elusive wrote:Jesus, why isn't this one dead yet?


Because people aren't voting for him.

Since he's at L-2 I could put him at L-1, but I'm not letting someone get hammered for stupid reasons again.
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Post Post #5412 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:45 am

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In post 5405, Shinobi wrote:"Only newer players can sheep."

Seriously. Rofl.


She said that new players can sheep because they're new and can get away with it, and if someone has 2-3 confirmed Mafia kills then yeah you can sheep, but otherwise you shouldn't and dragon is that otherwise.
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Post Post #5413 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:47 am

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Ozgin wrote:
In post 5405, Shinobi wrote:"Only newer players can sheep."

Seriously. Rofl.


She said that new players can sheep because they're new and can get away with it, and if someone has 2-3 confirmed Mafia kills then yeah you can sheep, but otherwise you shouldn't and dragon is that otherwise.


I'm aware of what she's saying.
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Post Post #5414 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:51 am

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In post 5411, Ozgin wrote:
In post 5406, elusive wrote:Jesus, why isn't this one dead yet?


Because people aren't voting for him.

Since he's at L-2 I could put him at L-1, but I'm not letting someone get hammered for stupid reasons again.


It's nearing deadline. We need to come together on a lynch. I'm going to be very busy for awhile. I can hammer if you want to put Shinobi at L-1. I would of been fine with Marquis as I've explained it before but the person pushing hardest for it inexplicably switched to Aero and another sheeped. There's been a huge amount of resistance to Marquis lynch. The cases on Aero are weaksauce as hell. Then we have people like Cheetory who only stop by periodically, say a few things, then leave again and stay out of any of the main discussions/arguments going on. He's the very definition of coasting scum right now.

But whatever, this game is making me mad. I will be away for awhile. I'll check again tonight. The fact that some of my townreads want to lynch Shinobi and the fact that we are close to deadline and the Aero switch is suspicious as fuck, and that no one seemed to even want to talk about my NL idea, is enough for me to hammer this wagon.

So make up your mind Ozgin. I'll be back tonight.
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Post Post #5415 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:54 am

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VOTE: Aero

Reasons: he has 0 interest in questioning me and I mostly only popped up on his scumlist out of convenience. I answered what he was asking me earlier and he only came back to talk about irrelevancies instead of continuing his pressure or finding an alternative lynch target. He's mostly just looking for an excuse to hang his vote on me.
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Post Post #5416 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:07 am

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I literally don't even care about the outcome of the game at this point.
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Post Post #5417 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:43 am

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VOTE: Shinobi

Because I think Aero is townier than Shinobi, and I don't understand the wagon startup on Aero. That's making up my mind, Wolf.
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Post Post #5418 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:44 am

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If you really don't care, vote for yourself or replace out. That kind of attitude has been toxic to this game.
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Post Post #5419 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:08 am

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SilverWolf; this day is coming down to Shinobi vs Aeronaut. You can see by how frantic the discussion is that one is scum and one is town. Please, vote Aeronaut. These names on the Shinobi wagon are so utterly untrustable. It's a scum wagon, on town.
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Post Post #5420 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:09 am

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Ozgin, I'll answer your questions once you answer mine. I want to know why exactly you believe I'm the SK, given I have made 5-6 logical points on why I'm not. You responded to, perhaps, one. Not good enough.
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Post Post #5421 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:12 am

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Ozgin, has your favoured alignment always been scum over town, or did it recently change?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #5422 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:14 am

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In post 5420, T S O wrote:Ozgin, I'll answer your questions once you answer mine. I want to know why exactly you believe I'm the SK, given I have made 5-6 logical points on why I'm not. You responded to, perhaps, one. Not good enough.

I told you, it's my gut. I have no empirical evidence, if that's what you need. The vig could be withholding their counterclaim for personal reasons. And my question to you is more pertinent to the current vote situation, considering nobody, including myself, wants you dead today.

PEdit:
You tell me exactly why Aeronaut is scum, and I'll change my mind. But I think Shinobi is less town than Aeronaut, and you said it yourself: It's either Shinobi or Aeronaut at this point.
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Post Post #5423 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:26 am

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So... He's L1?
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Post Post #5424 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:30 am

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T S O, I have a question.
Let's say we get a scum and you manage to kill another scum, which leaves down to 3, would you accept being lynched if it's necessary since if you don't die?

I'm thinking ahead on what the players here would try.

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