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Post Post #5450 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:13 pm

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In post 5445, T S O wrote:Actually, {TSO, dragonspawn, SilverWolf, Kitz} was 4 of the 6 required. It is quite possible Cheetory would have sided with me. Shinobi would also have done so. That's 6.

Kitz was not on that wagon, broham.

Shinobi said that he would not be voting Marquis.

So you really didn't have the support you needed there, tbh. That was easy enough to figure out, and then it was probably easy enough to switch once you had Marquis' support.
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Post Post #5451 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:17 pm

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It's Shinobi vs Marquis, who's he gonna vote? You?

That's 5 basically guaranteed votes, as Cheetory had said he disliked Marquis' push on me.

So all scum-TSO needed to remove his most vocal detractor was 1 vote. One vote, with people like Kitz who could be influenced. Especially with the pressures of deadline.

Do you think I'd back myself to make that mislynch happen as scum? Do you? Because if you have the first inkling of how scum-TSO works, you'd know I'd back myself to the
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Post Post #5452 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:37 pm

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So you were sure you you were going to have the votes to get that to go through?
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Post Post #5453 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:45 pm

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Aero. If you're not trying to get TSO lynched right now, what are you trying to prove?
If you are trying to get TSO lynched, why? Like. What?
I really don't get why this is your focus right now.
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Post Post #5454 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:47 pm

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Because he's going to shoot me tonight, and I'd like what I say to be heard against him tomorrow.
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Post Post #5455 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:49 pm

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It seems to me like you have more chance of being lynched right now..?
Why're you worried about being nightkilled more than Shinobi at this point?
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Post Post #5456 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:56 pm

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Aero, I gave you my readslist.

You even asked for elaboration and I elaborated.

There is literally no reason for you to be on my wagon and you fucking know it.
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Post Post #5457 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:57 pm

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Why would Shinobi be nightkilled....


P-edit: Do you really want me to quote it again?
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Post Post #5458 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:58 pm

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You can quote it and the answer I gave you. I gave you a full readslist so you have no excuse to not know what my reads are.

Your point on me talking about probably being tracked is absolute garbage and you know it.
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Post Post #5459 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:00 pm

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Here's another one

I'm very weary of some of the Shinobi/TSO/Cheetory interactions with each other today. I really didn't like this post in which Shinobi accredits the interactions between Marquis, T S O, and himself as simple paranoia that stems out of "mutual respect" for each other. I feel is subtly implying that they're all town, and that people should look elsewhere. I also don't like his constant assertion that two people fighting in a game suddenly makes them town. Shinobi has been here long enough to know that that's not really the case, and it bothers me that he's trying to push that.
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Post Post #5460 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:04 pm

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In post 5188, Shinobi wrote:Ofc I'm using it as a shield. I tried talking rationally to people and it's not fucking working.

I can come up with reasons to think of GM as either alignment but none of them are good in terms of thinking of her as possibly being town.
Elusive isn't even bothering to explain why she's voting me.
Aeronaut is still reaching to try and lynch our claimed vigi while directing his shot.

These are my scumreads right now. I say I'm on the fence about GM but if you put a gun to my head, I'd say she was scum.

If you want to believe that all of ABR's checks are fake anyway, go ahead. I genuinely hope I get lynched with two likely scum roles that have extra visits with a tracker check on me.
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Post Post #5461 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:07 pm

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Aero wrote:Why would Shinobi be nightkilled....
No I mean why are you more concerned with what will happen during night rather than what is happening right now?
It just seems like your priorities are weird and I'm trying to understand.
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Post Post #5462 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:08 pm

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In post 5459, Aeronaut wrote:Here's another one

I'm very weary of some of the Shinobi/TSO/Cheetory interactions with each other today. I really didn't like this post in which Shinobi accredits the interactions between Marquis, T S O, and himself as simple paranoia that stems out of "mutual respect" for each other. I feel is subtly implying that they're all town, and that people should look elsewhere. I also don't like his constant assertion that two people fighting in a game suddenly makes them town. Shinobi has been here long enough to know that that's not really the case, and it bothers me that he's trying to push that.


Except I said that everything that was said by the two of them was completely reasonable. I have experience with Marquis' scumgame and this is is so different that I don't believe this is it, and I had reasons to believe that TSO was town as well despite the fight. I had no reason to believe that the fight made either of them scummy.

Nice try though.
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Post Post #5463 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:09 pm

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In post 5460, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 5188, Shinobi wrote:Ofc I'm using it as a shield. I tried talking rationally to people and it's not fucking working.

I can come up with reasons to think of GM as either alignment but none of them are good in terms of thinking of her as possibly being town.
Elusive isn't even bothering to explain why she's voting me.
Aeronaut is still reaching to try and lynch our claimed vigi while directing his shot.

These are my scumreads right now. I say I'm on the fence about GM but if you put a gun to my head, I'd say she was scum.

If you want to believe that all of ABR's checks are fake anyway, go ahead. I genuinely hope I get lynched with two likely scum roles that have extra visits with a tracker check on me.


In post 5332, Shinobi wrote:Dragonspawn exists. It seemed like he was catching on to the majority of the accusations on me being bullshit but I'm an idiot and didn't catch it. So townlean.
Ozgin seems reasonable and towny I guess.
Cheetory is.....I don't know how to describe it. He's here and he's asking questions, but then he gets answers and leaves and it just doesn't seem like my answers sated him in the first place because he's still on me. I'd like to say town, but I really don't know.


I gave you the rest of them as you asked.

Nice job ignoring them.
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Post Post #5464 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:38 pm

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I don't even know what the point of me doing anything in this game is anymore.
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Post Post #5465 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:17 pm

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In post 5461, Cheetory6 wrote:
Aero wrote:Why would Shinobi be nightkilled....
No I mean why are you more concerned with what will happen during night rather than what is happening right now?
It just seems like your priorities are weird and I'm trying to understand.


Another good question.
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Post Post #5466 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:05 pm

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Aeronaut, buddy, I won't be killing you during the night. That's why your lynch is going through right now.
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Post Post #5467 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:05 pm

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Cheetory, come along.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #5468 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:37 am

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Facepalmcat has never been more appropriate than right now.
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Post Post #5469 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:39 am

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I actually chuckled at the fact that if goodmorning is Town, one of us is completely and utterly wrong in our opinions of the game.

Fun will be had postgame.
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Post Post #5470 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:41 am

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TSO wrote:Cheetory, come along.
Okay. Where are we going?
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Post Post #5471 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:46 am

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Meh.
I wanted to see more of Aero's thoughts, but the fact that he's still pushing "Shinobi/TSO/Cheetory" interactions when he's acknowledged that TSO probably isn't groupscum as a reason for finding Shinobi scummy is weird. Also just the strange focus on TSO and lack of actual trying to find someone worth lynching this cycle is weird.

Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Post Post #5472 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:49 am

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right now i'm thinking aero is the red herring distracting from my own red herring-ness. this wagon was too easy. but tso's going to get my mislynch if i don't kiss his ass here, and i still kinda think shinobi's town.

dragon, cheetory, kitz and maybe maybe aero - all scum?
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Post Post #5473 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:14 am

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UNVOTE:
Consider this my intent to hammer Aeronaut.


Aero, Shinobi got you here and here and here.

What do you have to say for yourself?
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Post Post #5474 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:16 am

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If Aeronaut flips scum then I'll be inclined to believe TSO is town, and so is Shinobi.
If Aeronaut is town then I'll probably stick with my SK on a leash theory with TSO, but my townread on Shin won't change.
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