In post 5445, T S O wrote:Actually, {TSO, dragonspawn, SilverWolf, Kitz} was 4 of the 6 required. It is quite possible Cheetory would have sided with me. Shinobi would also have done so. That's 6.
Kitz was not on that wagon, broham.
Shinobi said that he would not be voting Marquis.
So you really didn't have the support you needed there, tbh. That was easy enough to figure out, and then it was probably easy enough to switch once you had Marquis' support.
It's Shinobi vs Marquis, who's he gonna vote? You?
That's 5 basically guaranteed votes, as Cheetory had said he disliked Marquis' push on me.
So all scum-TSO needed to remove his most vocal detractor was 1 vote. One vote, with people like Kitz who could be influenced. Especially with the pressures of deadline.
Do you think I'd back myself to make that mislynch happen as scum? Do you? Because if you have the first inkling of how scum-TSO works, you'd know I'd back myself to the
hilt
to pull it off.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
Aero. If you're not trying to get TSO lynched right now, what are you trying to prove?
If you are trying to get TSO lynched, why? Like. What?
I really don't get why this is your focus right now.
Marquis wrote:i completely forgot cheetory was even part of this game :/
had a townread on him earlier but it moved to null and now completely eroded. would advocate a lynch or vig there.
I was VLA for a reason. I have so much shit going on IRL and team mafia > this. Sorry. If people want to kill me because I have priorities in life then great. Would love some more fucking free time right now.
I'm very weary of some of the Shinobi/TSO/Cheetory interactions with each other today. I really didn't like this post in which Shinobi accredits the interactions between Marquis, T S O, and himself as simple paranoia that stems out of "mutual respect" for each other. I feel is subtly implying that they're all town, and that people should look elsewhere. I also don't like his constant assertion that two people fighting in a game suddenly makes them town. Shinobi has been here long enough to know that that's not really the case, and it bothers me that he's trying to push that.
In post 5188, Shinobi wrote:Ofc I'm using it as a shield. I tried talking rationally to people and it's not fucking working.
I can come up with reasons to think of GM as either alignment but none of them are good in terms of thinking of her as possibly being town.
Elusive isn't even bothering to explain why she's voting me.
Aeronaut is still reaching to try and lynch our claimed vigi while directing his shot.
These are my scumreads right now. I say I'm on the fence about GM but if you put a gun to my head, I'd say she was scum.
If you want to believe that all of ABR's checks are fake anyway, go ahead. I genuinely hope I get lynched with two likely scum roles that have extra visits with a tracker check on me.
No I mean why are you more concerned with what will happen during night rather than what is happening right now?
It just seems like your priorities are weird and I'm trying to understand.
I'm very weary of some of the Shinobi/TSO/Cheetory interactions with each other today. I really didn't like this post in which Shinobi accredits the interactions between Marquis, T S O, and himself as simple paranoia that stems out of "mutual respect" for each other. I feel is subtly implying that they're all town, and that people should look elsewhere. I also don't like his constant assertion that two people fighting in a game suddenly makes them town. Shinobi has been here long enough to know that that's not really the case, and it bothers me that he's trying to push that.
Except I said that everything that was said by the two of them was completely reasonable. I have experience with Marquis' scumgame and this is is so different that I don't believe this is it, and I had reasons to believe that TSO was town as well despite the fight. I had no reason to believe that the fight made either of them scummy.
In post 5188, Shinobi wrote:Ofc I'm using it as a shield. I tried talking rationally to people and it's not fucking working.
I can come up with reasons to think of GM as either alignment but none of them are good in terms of thinking of her as possibly being town.
Elusive isn't even bothering to explain why she's voting me.
Aeronaut is still reaching to try and lynch our claimed vigi while directing his shot.
These are my scumreads right now. I say I'm on the fence about GM but if you put a gun to my head, I'd say she was scum.
If you want to believe that all of ABR's checks are fake anyway, go ahead. I genuinely hope I get lynched with two likely scum roles that have extra visits with a tracker check on me.
In post 5332, Shinobi wrote:Dragonspawn exists. It seemed like he was catching on to the majority of the accusations on me being bullshit but I'm an idiot and didn't catch it. So townlean.
Ozgin seems reasonable and towny I guess.
Cheetory is.....I don't know how to describe it. He's here and he's asking questions, but then he gets answers and leaves and it just doesn't seem like my answers sated him in the first place because he's still on me. I'd like to say town, but I really don't know.
No I mean why are you more concerned with what will happen during night rather than what is happening right now?
It just seems like your priorities are weird and I'm trying to understand.
Aeronaut, buddy, I won't be killing you during the night. That's why your lynch is going through right now.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
I actually chuckled at the fact that if goodmorning is Town, one of us is completely and utterly wrong in our opinions of the game.
Fun will be had postgame.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
Meh.
I wanted to see more of Aero's thoughts, but the fact that he's still pushing "Shinobi/TSO/Cheetory" interactions when he's acknowledged that TSO probably isn't groupscum as a reason for finding Shinobi scummy is weird. Also just the strange focus on TSO and lack of actual trying to find someone worth lynching this cycle is weird.
right now i'm thinking aero is the red herring distracting from my own red herring-ness. this wagon was too easy. but tso's going to get my mislynch if i don't kiss his ass here, and i still kinda think shinobi's town.
dragon, cheetory, kitz and maybe maybe aero - all scum?
If Aeronaut flips scum then I'll be inclined to believe TSO is town, and so is Shinobi.
If Aeronaut is town then I'll probably stick with my SK on a leash theory with TSO, but my townread on Shin won't change.
If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3