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[Marquis]

V O T E C O U N T

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Say you'll remember me,
standing in a nice dress,
staring at the sunset, babe.

— "Wildest Dreams",

1989

(2)

Aristophanes

— killerjester, DarkLightA

(L-5)

(0)

Bookitty

—

(0)

Elyse

—

(0)

Empking

—

(0)

Endless Possibilities

—

(0)

Espeonage

—

(0)

killerjester

—

(1)

LucianRoy

— Empking

(L-6)

(0)

Not_Mafia

—

(2)

ika

— Endless Possibilities

(L-5)

(0)

Soren

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(3)

DarkLightA

— Not_Mafia, LucianRoy, Elyse

(L-4)

(5)

Not Voting

— Aristophanes, Bookitty, Espeonage, ika, Soren

With

12

alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-04-17 15:15:00)

(Fri Apr 17 @ 15:15:00 EST).

Endless Possibilities

(pieguyn) is V/LA until 4/5.

Note that this votecount is identical to 2.03, and is only here for visibility.

[Empking]

Unvote

Vote: Arist

[DarkLightA]

Lucian, what is your aim with softclaiming?

[LucianRoy]

Guess.

In my view, it really doesn't look good that you keep pressing this matter.

I've already said what needs to be said.

[Soren]

I would like to hear from Aris.

[DarkLightA]

I've already said what needs to be said.

Ok

[killerjester]

I would like to hear from Aris.

Can you vote him? I feel we'd hear from him sooner if his wagon was bigger.

[Soren]

I would like to hear from Aris.

Can you vote him? I feel we'd hear from him sooner if his wagon was bigger.

I'll consider it.

[killerjester]

Ok. Do you wanna try to sell me on the not-voting wagon in the meantime?

It's got a lot of support right now but I don't really understand why people think it's a good idea.

[Soren]

I'm not in support for the not-voting wagon.

It's just that for what ever reason my head is not the game and I just can't seem to read people.

[Soren]

well, I've got some reads. But it isn't backed up with anything of substance.

[Soren]

Won't be voting Anti ever.

Why?

Who were the scum on the Anti wagon?

SEL

I've actually thinking EP was scum for a while, but that was just based on role speculation (we're due for a temp-Hatred to be scum.)

Do you think Soren, LR, and I are all scum? Or just one? Or two?

@Soren
Why did you include Aris if you don't have a read on him?
Why would LR's wordiness affect your read on him if you two have played together? Is he not usually wordy?

I would also like you to point out the 20% of Boo's scummy actions, as well as my fluff and iffy posts.

I don't think you are scum, I think EP is scum.

What's the EP scum read?

[Bookitty]

Meh, I think KJ is right on pressuring Aristo.

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Soren]

ika has only made two posts so far hmmm

[Soren]

I can't say that I see the Aris scum read honestly.

[LucianRoy]

I agree with Soren, I really do think he's just plain, dumbtowning this game.
Also, third party.
Also, the possibility of Jesters.
Also, hidden abilities and gambit abilities.

Anyhow, he'd be a fairly good candidate for jester in my mind.

Not voting is a terrible option. We have actual substance to go off of today, and tons of scum reads nonetheless.

[Soren]

A quick skim of Aristophanes' iso tells me that he's either a busy person or has limited access to a pc, possibly both, thus he hasn't posted much. But when he does post, he contributes by offering his thoughts, tries to understand the line of thoughts behind reads and most importantly, he votes.

One problem I see is the lack of his own reads, he's trying to understand other people's reads more than giving his own reads.

[LucianRoy]

Meh, I think KJ is right on pressuring Aristo.

VOTE: Aristophanes

I'm holding you to this.
This is a pressure vote. Not a "Oh, I'll place my vote here for the meantime" vote, nor a "depending on his reaction, I'll keep it here" vote.
But I fear that it'll turn into the latter.

I really do find this vote scummy. It really seems like a sheep vote, no, it basically is a sheep vote.
And we all know that Boo is highly critical of sheep votes. In this sense, I dislike the hypocrisy.

Also, I hate the timing of this vote. Only a few posts before, KJ was doubting himself, and factored the nolynch train into consideration.
The scum motivation of voting in this direct moment would be to not allow that train to lose momentum, that is, if Aristo is town, and Boo is scum.

[LucianRoy]

A quick skim of Aristophanes' iso tells me that he's either a busy person or has limited access to a pc, possibly both, thus he hasn't posted much. But when he does post, he contributes by offering his thoughts, tries to understand the line of thoughts behind reads and most importantly, he votes.

One problem I see is the lack of his own reads, he's trying to understand other people's reads more than giving his own reads.

I'd say this analysis is spot on.
I don't really see Aristo's views or lack of views as scumblindness, and his words made him sound like he was genuinely confused.

[killerjester]

You realize I was joking in my last post, right?

[Bookitty]

Okay, LucianRoy. I have a couple things to say.

Drawn on Arrival just ended, allowing me to say something about Ika. He lurks a lot as scum, as that game will attest. Since he replaced in, he hasn't contributed a thing. I'm watching that slot and if he continues this trend, my vote is going there.

What's the scum motivation for pushing Antihero's lynch and then not stepping in to vote him to take the towncred? Was he NOT going to be lynched without my vote? (Hint: he was lynched anyway -- just letting you know.) If I were scum, why wouldn't I jump on that vote to ensure that you would think I was town? Why would I push for his lynch in the first place if I were scum?

What is your deal anyway? It really seems to me that you're trying to push the idea of me as scum without getting your own hands dirty with a vote and without giving reasons that make ANY kind of sense. So what's your major malfunction?

I'd really like to know.

[LucianRoy]

You realize I was joking in my last post, right?

I can't read sarcasm for shieet.

[Soren]

Okay, LucianRoy. I have a couple things to say.

Drawn on Arrival just ended, allowing me to say something about Ika. He lurks a lot as scum, as that game will attest. Since he replaced in, he hasn't contributed a thing. I'm watching that slot and if he continues this trend, my vote is going there.

What's the scum motivation for pushing Antihero's lynch and then not stepping in to vote him to take the towncred? Was he NOT going to be lynched without my vote? (Hint: he was lynched anyway -- just letting you know.) If I were scum, why wouldn't I jump on that vote to ensure that you would think I was town? Why would I push for his lynch in the first place if I were scum?

What is your deal anyway? It really seems to me that you're trying to push the idea of me as scum without getting your own hands dirty with a vote and without giving reasons that make ANY kind of sense. So what's your major malfunction?

I'd really like to know.

I agree with the ika meta read. He did the same with his hydra in the greatest idea mafia game I was in and he turned out to be scum.

[Bookitty]

And we all know that Boo is highly critical of sheep votes. In this sense, I dislike the hypocrisy.

Can you provide examples of this in general? I objected to Soren's sheep of ME, yes, but this is not true in general. So prove it or stop making sweeping statements that are not true.

[Soren]

Bookitty what's your read on empking?