New York 180 (Endgame)

[dragonspawn]

Nobody?

Roleblock or something?

[T S O]

Straight up; I went for the goodmorning kill because Aeronaut was so against it, because I've thought she's scum all game, and because she was one of the people pushing the counterwagon to Aeronaut. Nothing happened.

[T S O]

The Mafia kill is still fucking missing.

[SilverWolf]

Hmmmmmmm................................................Something's off here. The mafia must of shot elusive is the only thing I can figure but if you shot GM T S O, she should be dead now.

[SilverWolf]

Or they No Killed but I don't know why they'd do that and it doesn't excuse the fact you say you shot GM and she's still alive.

I wish I had more time today but I'm busy.

[Kitz]

This game is fucking weird with the lack of kills and the sudden burst of kills early on. Is it possible for the Mafia to be a PR unable to kill because they are a PR?

[SilverWolf]

It depends on the set-up. With a goon dead that might happen. Sometimes the mod doesn't allow the mafia to kill and use an ability at the same time. If the ones that are left all have abilities they want to use, and that's part of the rules, then I guess......................................

I'm kind of baffled right now to be honest. This game has confused the crap out of me so many times, I don't even know any more.

[SilverWolf]

If GM has neighborized again, that person should confirm it again today.

[SilverWolf]

Is it possible for vig to be RB'd and scum to have 2 people who can RB? I'd normally say no but this game.....................................

[Kitz]

Well, I claim that I was not neighborized. Process of elemination.

So here's my absolutely terrific theory. There's two mafia factions with two members, Piss died leaving his team with just 1 guy left, and now Aero dead his team is also 1 guy left.
If this affects their ability of killing by being solo, then it can make sense... I think this is my best theory so far and ready to be butchered anytime.

P-Edit : Wouldn't the Vig claim being RB'd as Vig#1 or counterclaim if it's Vig#2?

[SilverWolf]

If it's multiball, 2 2 man scumteams would be seriously underpowered with all the town PR's because then scum would be able to kill the other team unless there's some rule that says they can't and that defeats the purpose of multiball.

No, I meant 2 RBrs, not 2 vig. We already figured out, there's not 2 vig. There's just no way.

I will admit, I'm confused and have no clue. I'm lost this game. Ready to sheep anyone who has an idea that makes sense.......................

[Kitz]

Since T S O is dat guy who's either SK or Vig, we can safely assume that his intend to kill is true.
Could it be that GM is a bulletproof role / scum?

[SilverWolf]

Could be.......................maybe a scum doc protect? But that would mean she lied about being a neighborizer or is a scum neighborizer who was protected by a scum doc. I would normally dismiss that but in this game, I'm now willing to believe almost anything at this point.

GM posting will help and so will anyone confirming they were neighborized. My neighborhood with GM is now closed.

[Kitz]

Wouldn't a Scum Neighborizer with a Scum Doc justify the amount of power to the town?

[SilverWolf]

Wouldn't a Scum Neighborizer with a Scum Doc justify the amount of power to the town?

Normally, I'd say this isn't possible but in this game........................it could be.

Scum should of taken aim at GM last night. She may be a weak PR but she's still a claimed PR. So why didn't they? And why did T S O's shot miss her?

[Kitz]

As weird of a setup it is, we can just call it Expert Level Setup.
Should be more satisfying to win thinking you won a higher difficulty.

Just for motivation sake. You look a bit dry on energy.

I have one question : Is either of these roles possible in Normal? Kill visitors, Multi-Direction-Shot.

[SilverWolf]

I would say no, but I'm going to let others talk this out.

Hopefully, someone can think of something. I'm lost.

I'll be back later.

[T S O]

Well, I claim that I was not neighborized. Process of elemination.

So here's my absolutely terrific theory. There's two mafia factions with two members, Piss died leaving his team with just 1 guy left, and now Aero dead his team is also 1 guy left.
If this affects their ability of killing by being solo, then it can make sense... I think this is my best theory so far and ready to be butchered anytime.

P-Edit : Wouldn't the Vig claim being RB'd as Vig#1 or counterclaim if it's Vig#2?

And that's why they both flipped Mafia, in the same colour ...?

You're probably not familiar with multiball, Kitz. The two factions are either {Mafia, WW} or {Red Maf, Blue Maf} which both have unique colours.

And if it was multiball, then it would 2x scum kill + Vig every night. No-one died last night.

[T S O]

I should be dead, and I'm not. Scum must have a way to neutralise me.

[Kitz]

On the hypothetical scenario that Viking lied, could you be roleblocked and we can assume that there were really just 2 attacks that night instead of one?
I'd rather believe not.

[SilverWolf]

Vig kill wouldn't happen every night either.........................

[Kitz]

I wonder if scum is just as confused as us.

[dragonspawn]

Thinking about this, the only thing that makes sense to me is that we had a jail keep in gm and you both targeted her.

but that doesn't seem likely considering all the pr roles we've had.

[Ozgin]

What if Mafia targeted TSO and TSO targeted GM, GM bulletproof scum neighborizer and TSO bulletproof SK?

[Marquis]

my first thought was some sort of jailkeep

also this spec is ridiculous

VOTE: elusive

only thing i'm doing today

bye