Open 31 - Yoguraimee C9 (Game Over!) before 470

[Vendagoat]

Finally XYZ is not making wild posts. I'm leaving my vote off for now, I want to see how this plays out. I don't think we have a full explanation yet but XYZ and HH are getting there.

[Honary Hitchhiker]

Didn't want my outlook to seem so pushy in voting xyzzy I only wanted to see what he had to say. I thought he gave up because he posted on another thread. He did explain about his voting but not that thoroughly. I'm keeping my vote until I hear more information.

[Erg0]

Vote Count

Khelvaster 2 (J-Man, mneme)
xyzzy 2 (Khelvaster, Honary Hitchhiker)
Vendagoat 1 (YogurtBandit)
YogurtBandit 1 (xyzzy)

Not Voting: Vendagoat

7 alive means 4 to lynch.

[Vendagoat]

Well despite his recent lucidness, I am holding myself to my own word.

VOTE:XYZ

He's still more wild than rational. Until I see a bit more, this vote will stay.

[Vendagoat]

Oh before someone flips out. when I made post 50 I thought there would be more discussion for today. Obviously I was wrong, because nothing new came and I am a bit late on holding myself to the 24 hours, I am fulfilling what I said I would do now.

[xyzzy]

Go read any of my games. This is how I ALWAYS play, whether I'm scum or town. Therefore, you can't use it as a basis to lynch me, because it doesn't change the likelihood that I'm scum.

[mneme]

xyz: yes, we can.

[mneme]

The "I play like crap" defense isn't actually a defense.

[YogurtBandit]

Well despite his recent lucidness, I am holding myself to my own word.

VOTE:XYZ

He's still more wild than rational. Until I see a bit more, this vote will stay.

How did that change between this post and post 50?

[Khelvaster]

I second what yogurt just said. Vendagoat, how did you change your opinion between 1 post and 1 votecount. Did you mispost or something on post 50?

[Vendagoat]

Not today as in game day, the day as in when post 50 was made I was still under my own limit of 24 hours till I revoted. So I kind of pooched myself into a corner with that one.

I was hoping on july 10th that there would have been more discussion, but it died out quickly and suddenly it was past my 24 hour limit I put on myself. which is what I tried to explain in post 54.

So I damned if I do, damned if I don't on myself by making post number 50.

Hope I explained that well enough, any more questions or need clarification?

[Khelvaster]

That checks out for now. I'd enjoy an xyzzy today, but I'll need to look at you for tomorrow.

FoS: Vendagoat

[J-man]

Unvote, Vote: Khelvaster

[Vendagoat]

Unvote, Vote: Khelvaster

Ok explain

[J-man]

oh good there are people that actually watch this thread good, my explination for that was to see if it was worth my time to actually give a thought to this game :S and yes im sorry about being gone for a week RL calls. Khelvaster was the target for no reason other then he posted last so now on with mafia

Unvote

[Vendagoat]

For god's sake people start talking! I've explained my vote and drawn my conclusion.

Let's hear what the rest of you think. I'll go first with my list.

Xyz: I think he is scum that tries to play random and confuse others, he is not based in reality and therefore also doesn't make a good townie either.

HH: for the quick vote to put XYZ at -l very quickly with a small explanation, but at least there was an explanation.

Mnem: So far I have a town read on him.

J-man: voting for the hell of it and then a quick retraction. Very very slight scummy read from him.

Khev: Bit of crap logic, bit of dicking around. leaning towards scummy as well here.

Yogurt: talks straight, answers well, so far a town read from him.

[Khelvaster]

Good idea, vendagoat


HH: He definitely looks scumy. I really don't like the way he contributes nothing, FoS's xyzzy, then votes xyzzy. He hasn't done anything but that. I feel that if xyzzy turns out scum, HH is town, and vice versa.

J-man: He has been gone for a week. He seems slightly town, as he did take an interest in this thread working. The random vote and unvote seems ok by me, since it was more a prod than a real vote. He couldn't seriously seriously expect to get a BW on me with a random, unexplained vote.

Khev: Bit of crap logic, bit of dicking around. leaning towards scummy as well here.

Crap logic is acceptable as a basis for a random vote (if I go ahead and say, as my first random vote, 'vote xyzzy for BWing on his random,' that doesn't mean I am seriously voting him. BWing in random isn't a scumtell.)

Xyz: However, when the guy you voted for starts overreacting and blowing his top over the voter, then he might very well be scum. Let's not forget his memorable, elegantly presented argument against yogurt:

Yogurt, are you scum?
Don't avoid that question. Give me good reasons why I should think otherwise, because right now I'm pretty sure you are.

Yogurt: He hasn't done anything at all scummy, but at the same time xyzzy is screwing around WIFOMing with that yogurt accusation. I am undecided about yogurt, though leaning towards town.

[mneme]

craplogic is never non-scummy. Even in "random" votes. Total nonsense is often acceptable in random votes, but that's different.

I don't think xyz pulling the "are you scum?" card says anything at all about yogurt's aligntment. Or xyz's, though his play isn't great as a whole.

[J-man]

Go read any of my games. This is how I ALWAYS play, whether I'm scum or town. Therefore, you can't use it as a basis to lynch me, because it doesn't change the likelihood that I'm scum.

right now you(Xyz) seem to be the play of the day i know that may be its early to say that since we are only 3 pgs in but seeing as i havn't actually wieghed in on anything yet that is my opinion, from reading the posts and your lack of posting, yes mabye that is a null point but we need to start getting people to post regularily again; to get this game moving.

my second scummy person is Vendagoat and yet this is slightly OMGUS since my opinion on Venda is largly based upon this

J-man: voting for the hell of it and then a quick retraction. Very very slight scummy read from him.

first of all i think that Khelvaster nails the point on the head with it being more of a prod then a vote though i think that I did explain it properly and he sure seemed to get it, secondly looking back at the most previous vote count it seemed that i already had my vote on Khelvaster although no1 as of yet has noticed so really even less of a scummy action on my part imo.

and about Khelvaster and his 'craplogic' mabye it is true that we are to jump on just about anyone at this point since we are very early in the game i believe that mneme nails this point quite well and directly with this post.

craplogic is never non-scummy. Even in "random" votes. Total nonsense is often acceptable in random votes, but that's different.

[Khelvaster]

Mod: Could you dish out prods?

[Erg0]

Looks to me like the person most in need of a prod is Honary Hitchhiker, and he's going to be away for a week from tomorrow so I may just have to replace him.

Prodding YogurtBandit for the sake of completeness.

[YogurtBandit]

Im here, Hasnt realized the date of my last post.

[mneme]

Also here. Nothing's happened since my last post. O..o

[Vendagoat]

Have people just given up?

[YogurtBandit]

Nope.