New York 180 (Endgame)

[Cheetory6]

That being said, I don't appreciate being referred to as an 'it' tyvm. -.-

[Shinobi]

I don't agree with you GM, and I don't really care about what you have to say about it because I'm going to continue scumhunting this way.

[goodmorning]

I don't agree with you GM, and I don't really care about what you have to say about it because I'm going to continue scumhunting this way.

So you didn't think viking was lying Scum when you voted him then? You knew he was Town and voted him anyway?

I wouldn't push you on this if I didn't mean it. And again, this isn't meant to be used as any part of a case; it's all theory stuff.

[goodmorning]

- need to check and see why Pisskop got off Kitz wagon between 947 and 1051.

In process of search this came up:

Hey Kitz, why are you still voting a claimed PR?

Could be coaching or could just be Aero trying to look useful.

Pisskop doesn't state any diminishing suspicions of Kitz, just heightened ones of elusive, saying she was pursuing LHF and being defensive and antagonistic. (1025)
He votes for Kitz in 917 for no apparent reason. Right before his vote, he said the following to House: "What makes you refer to a post 30 pages ago as your sole reason to vote [for Aero]? And why did it come right after the flashwagon on Kitz?"
His only mention of Kitz near that is in 918 which is more coaching than casing.
-"Why haven't you considered his playstyle from prior games? Or what other players say about his meta?"
-"Is the use of meta a good or bad thing?"
-"What are your town/scum reads?"
In 926 he tells House he voted Kitz "because I'm unsure if Elusive's VOTE: on you is some kind of bussing or what. If you don't want the focus on Kitz then that's where I think it should be atm."
Which, wtf?

His vote on Kitz was his first mention thereof.

In 1440, he suggests that a Kitz lynch could be informative.

[goodmorning]

This is what I really want to be talking about.

[Kitz]

If you want to make a scumcase on me because of what others did, you should vote me or ISO me instead of using others.
I don't really understand the cases made on me early game, really.

[goodmorning]

Right now I'm trying to talk to Shinobi in a language he understands - in this case, analysing people's voting patterns and going more in-depth when something looks weird.

I may not trust him but I trust TSO and TSO trusts him, so we're gonna make this shit work.

[Ozgin]

VOTE: oz

Seems a good place to start. He's been pinging me a while.

I am V/LA, and will be for at least a week. I am so sorry, guys, but access is impossible right now.

I'd lynch Ozgin > gm.

Why and why?

[Kitz]

What's your read list Ozzie?

[Ozgin]

I have:

Shinbo - Town. I had some light interaction with him, he always read as town to me even though we butted heads a little.
Dragonspawn - Leanscum. Blindly and relentlessly sheeping the "vig," always for the same reason. What if he's scum and letting the "vig" drive?
TSO - Leanscum. I don't know that I buy he was blocked. What if he's not even the vig, what if he's a mafia goon or something, his team voted to shoot someone else, and missed? They were BP? I really don't like that he didn't yield a kill last night, and the person he targeted can't explain it.
Kitz - Null - I honestly haven't read you yet. SW gave me points for why you might be town, but I don't totally buy them.
Marquis - ??? - Seriously I don't even fucking know here.
elusive - Leantown, I kinda believe her claim and such.
Cheetory - Hardlean scum. AtE usage was off the charts, and seems to kinda just be shuffling on by. I really don't like that.

[Ozgin]

I just realized I posted the elusive read from my notepad. #Lol

[Ozgin]

Also, I've always townread SilverWolf. She was a great neighbor and I'm actually pretty bummed about not having her around.

[goodmorning]

And me?

[Kitz]

Kitz - Null - I honestly haven't read you yet. SW gave me points for why you might be town, but I don't totally buy them.

"Hey, my neighbour told me someone is town and gave me points, but I don't buy it.

Better not read her!

"

[dragonspawn]

I've been fairly suspicious of oz for a while. The lurking for one.

but I've been thinking alot about house. He was crumbing his neighborhood. At first I was thinking that is because he is town. I mean what scum would crumb being a hoody? Not exactly pr of the year there.

but I also know house well enough to realize that if he is being blatant then he wants it seen. I am thinking he wanted it known he was a neighbor enough to crumb it but not outright state it. Makes me think it was to mislead anyone who caught it into thinking he was town.

the biggest question mark I have is would scum house replace?

not sure but I'm willing to take a chance.

[goodmorning]

the biggest question mark I have is would scum house replace?

Given that he replaced out because of a disagreement with the mod, I'd say his replace-out is pretty non-indicative.

[dragonspawn]

the biggest question mark I have is would scum house replace?

Given that he replaced out because of a disagreement with the mod, I'd say his replace-out is pretty non-indicative.

I tend to agree. Otherwise I wouldn't be voting oz.

[Shinobi]

Ozgin, remind me: how many games have you played before this one?

[Green Crayons]

Has this game always been this slow with votes, or is today special for some reason?

[Shinobi]

Has this game always been this slow with votes, or is today special for some reason?

The game moves in spurts.

[Green Crayons]

Also, I'll actually be putting forth effort into reading this upcoming week.

Limited ISO reviews and such.

I'm basically a warm body until then. Sorry.

[Green Crayons]

Gotcha, Shinobi.

[Shinobi]

Is there anything you want to know/ask about before delving into the madness of NY 180?

[goodmorning]

@Shinobi: what do you think about what I said about Pisskop interactions with Kitz the other day?

[ika]