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[DarkLightA]

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Is that a scum claim?

[Marquis]

V O T E C O U N T

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Two headlights shine through the sleepless night,
and I will get you, and get you alone.

— "Treacherous",

Red

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Aristophanes

— killerjester, Empking

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Bookitty

— Espeonage, LucianRoy

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Elyse

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Empking

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Endless Possibilities

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Espeonage

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killerjester

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LucianRoy

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Not_Mafia

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ika

— Endless Possibilities, Aristophanes, Not_Mafia, Soren, DarkLightA

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Soren

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DarkLightA

— Elyse

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Not Voting

— ika, Bookitty

With

12

alive, it takes

7

votes to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2015-04-17 15:15:00)

(Fri Apr 17 @ 15:15:00 EST).

in seriousness your not refuting the fact i targeted you which confirms what i am thinking

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[ika]

Is that a scum claim?

nope. im waiting for you to figure out what im aiming at

[DarkLightA]

Well good night.

[Elyse]

Intent to hammer ika.

Please claim.

[Aristophanes]

Ika, dafuq even.
I Iso'd your few posts and have no clue what you're getting at.

[LucianRoy]

i mean i already parial claimed anyone can put 2 and 2 together to see what im saying

This isn't 2+2.
(hehe)

[LucianRoy]

But yeah, you're not even claiming correctly when you're about to be hammered by Elyse.

[DarkLightA]

To be fair he hasn't responded after Elyse's post of intent.

[Bookitty]

@DarkLightA: Do you think that Ika is scum? What degree of certainty do you have there?

@Anyone: Hypothetically, if you know someone targeted you last night and you survived the encounter, should you out that person? It's possible that they are a town power role OR a scum power role. All you know for sure is that they aren't vanilla. What's the optimal play in cases like that?

@Elyse: Please don't hammer until I get a few answers on this. <3

[Espeonage]

Stay quiet and not ask that question because you should wait until massclaim and then work out if they are lying or telling the truth.

[Bookitty]

I'm trying to work through DarkLightA's thought process. I'm thinking it makes a difference if the person is about to be lynched, and DLA didn't say anything until Ika was already being wagoned seriously.

[Espeonage]

ika really shouldn't be being wagoned right now anyway.

[Not_Mafia]

Why?

[DarkLightA]

@Bookitty, which part of this:

I'd just rather not have any discussion on the ika-DLA dynamic.

is ambiguous to you?

I'll explain everything if ika claims.

[Bookitty]

It does not appear that he is going to claim. What damage are you trying to mitigate?

At this point, it's like staggering into a police station covered in blood and holding a giant bloody knife and then saying, "I don't want any discussion regarding the knife!" That may be your preference, but you've pretty well ruled out any discussion of anything ELSE.

[Bookitty]

@Ika: Do you support a DarkLightA lynch at this time?

[Not_Mafia]

It does not appear that he is going to claim. What damage are you trying to mitigate?

At this point, it's like staggering into a police station covered in blood and holding a giant bloody knife and then saying, "I don't want any discussion regarding the knife!" That may be your preference, but you've pretty well ruled out any discussion of anything ELSE.

What if he's a butcher and just wanted to give the police a gift for all their hard work?

[Bookitty]

What if he's a butcher and just wanted to give the police a gift for all their hard work?

Are you really going to claim butcher, Not Mafia? ARE YOU?

<3

Seriously, though, it's like putting big neon signs on a curtain and then forbidding anyone to look at it. "This curtain is private! There's nothing to see here! WHY ARE YOU ALL STARING AT THE CURTAIN?"

[Soren]

What if he's a butcher and just wanted to give the police a gift for all their hard work?

Are you really going to claim butcher, Not Mafia? ARE YOU?

<3

Seriously, though, it's like putting big neon signs on a curtain and then forbidding anyone to look at it. "This curtain is private! There's nothing to see here! WHY ARE YOU ALL STARING AT THE CURTAIN?"

The curtain has a pic of taylor swift <3

[Espeonage]

Why?

The case on him is dumb.

[Not_Mafia]

Let's get to the point, why is it dumb?

[Espeonage]

Because most of the case is based on meta and disinterest, neither of which are good reasons to wagon someone. Voting has never been good motivator and I have never understood why people think it is.

It's the exact same as when people are going to do something, someone asks them to do it even though they were going to, and so you don't do it because all the motivation is gone because you were asked to do it.

[Bookitty]

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there, Espeonage.

I have a hate for lurkers. I think it's really shabby to agree to play a game and then lurk all the way through, taking up a slot that might have been used by someone who wanted to play and offering minimal commitment to that game and the other players in it. I think it's really rude at a minimum.

However, it's a proven tactic for scum. It helps to stay off the radar and it allows you to coast until later in the game without attracting any real suspicion.

Drawn on Arrival just ended, and Ika lurked as scum there. Uncouth Mafia ALSO just ended, and Ika lurked as scum there. That's two VERY recent games in which Ika lurked as scum. He was obviously around to perform a night action, though, so that's a sign that he was not avoiding the game during the night phase.

What's wrong with this case?

[Not_Mafia]

Antihero really shouldn't be being wagoned right now anyway, because most of the case is based on meta and disinterest, neither of which are good reasons to wagon someone. Voting has never been good motivator and I have never understood why people think it is.