Open 591: C9++, The Lunatic Ayslum (Game Over: Town Win!)

[wgeurts]

Votecount 2.4:

✂ Alchemist21 : 0 :
✂ BlueBloodedToffee : 0 :
✂ DarkLightA : 1 : Otolia
✂ Otolia : 2 : randomidget, DarkLightA
✂ curiouskarmadog : 0 :
✂ Collatz : 0 :
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(L-3)

mnemonicdevice : 3 : Marcrell, Alchemist21, Collatz
✂ randomidget : 0 :
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(L-3)

Marcrell : 3 : RedCoyote, curiouskarmadog, Lucky2u
✂ Lucky2u : 0 :
✂ RedCoyote : 0 :

Not Voting:

mnemonicdevice, BlueBloodedToffee

It takes 6 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-04-21 00:03:48).

Alchemist21 is VLA today.
mnemonicdevice is VLA.
Otolia has been prodded, he has (expired on 2015-04-15 04:22:31) to pick up the prod.

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[Otolia]

What are you waiting for from Marcrell?
Do you have an opinion on MD vs BBT instead of making a filler comment?
Who is in a weird vote crossfire?
How am I posting like RC?

1. Replacement would be great but realistically, some answers is the best we're going to get.

2. MD is non-commital and his focus on you was weak but at the same time, you, a strong scum-read of mine is taunting him. That's was free and without consequences ... until you voted him.

3. Alchemist, Collatz, CKD in #543

4. The post listing you are doing more and more.

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But what's even more interesting is how you changed your attitude.

What exactly do you mean by "your attitude" in this post?

Being a town leader in D1 (vote on Collatz, on me etc) to being more passive. What has changed ?

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Otoila, I need you to show me what you're seeing differently in BBT's play, and I mean SHOW not TELL because I haven't noticed a change and if you can't show me why you think that I'll assume you're talking out of your ass.

Alright, =23899&user_select[]=0&user_select[]=0&user_sort=Go]here is BBT's ISO. Now I admit, he did post RC's style in 314 but I had the impression he did it more often in D2. I was somewhat right up to friday when my point became outright stupid and wrong.

Do you think that all Town players will maintain the same playstyle on D2? Personally I think a lot of people change to some extent going into D2 because they've had time to read back and reflect in the game.

If yes, then do you think DLA and BBT are conciously or subconsciously changing their playstyle?

Playstyle is mostly irrelevant. One can adopt a new one. What matters is motivation. I see scum motivation in DLA being a driving force D1 and taking a step back in D2 (though that's attitude) and I have already said I find the listings of comment hard to read - thus could be used as scum.

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That should cover all questions I have been asked. I still look like a fool though but for some reason my wagon vanished ? I'm very puzzled as to what happened. Also Randommidget is still voting me. I can understand DLA's vote from a town PoV but I cannot fathom RM's. I'm still deciding on RM vs. Marcrell since I've been told I have to do that. Probably marcrell. I'll have that today.

Why aren't you voting anyone BBT ?

[curiouskarmadog]

3. Alchemist, Collatz, CKD in #543

what exactly was weird about my vote there? Just curious.

[curiouskarmadog]

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That should cover all questions I have been asked. I still look like a fool though but for some reason my wagon vanished ? I'm very puzzled as to what happened. Also Randommidget is still voting me. I can understand DLA's vote from a town PoV but I cannot fathom RM's. I'm still deciding on RM vs. Marcrell since I've been told I have to do that. Probably marcrell. I'll have that today.

something is not sitting well with me about the quoted. I am not sure what exactly. Maybe the possible set up to avoid blame. "since I have been told". Do what you want. vote who you think is scummy. If we get closer to a deadline and we need a lynch (I need to read the rules about lynching for this game) you would be expected to help lynch, but dont vote those two if you dont think they are scummy now. I dont want ANYONE able to come back and say.."well I had to vote X because I was told to"...

I also didnt like the...."I am still the fool, but my wagon disappeared and I am puzzled." I am not sure why you are puzzled or why you would say this.

[curiouskarmadog]

maybe this is it.

I can understand DLA's vote from a

town PoV

but I cannot fathom RM's.

Is that all you can do DLA ? Because that's a very poor post you made. Seems like you're still riding your town-cred from D1. Where is the aggressiveness you displayed when you attacked me on D1 ? It seems to me it was all for show.

VOTE: DarkLightA

wtf? the first post doesnt not sound like it was from someone who thought DLA was scum.

going to reread Otolia, now. welcome to the radar.

[curiouskarmadog]

though I doubt I will find anything SCUMMIER than Macrell, that is one of our scum bags in this game. if he is not the lynch today, i will be pissed.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

666 - How is this going, Random?

669 - RC, what does a wagon on me not taking off have to do with a wagon on DLA? That's a strange link to make.

You think Otolia might be scum but you're not interested in pushing him. I genuinely don't know what to say to that.

I can join a Marcrell wagon.

VOTE: Marcrell

I'm not so sure about Collatz being town anymore. He isn't really doing anything to progress the game and he doesn't seem to be trying to work out people's alignments either.

672 - I was feeling good about Scum!MD until I saw the people who were willing to join me. Had the MD wagon been Lucky, RC, CKD and myself I would still be on it.

676 - Otolia, what answers are you waiting for? Have you asked him anything in particular?

OK, and what are your thoughts on MD vs myself?

I have posted this way for quite some time. It would take a 5 minute check of any of my games on this site in the past year to see I have consistently posted the way I am doing in this game.

Otolia, what is the scum motivation behind driving a lynch D1 and sitting back D2?

What makes you think you look like a fool? My read on you changes like the wind and it's extremely frustrating. I have no problems admitting I am finding you difficult to read.

Who has told you that you have to focus on Marcrell vs Random?

[DarkLightA]

if he is not the lynch today, i will be pissed.

Who? Otolia?

[Randomnamechange]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: marcrell
L-1

[Lucky2u]

good man random

[Otolia]

I'm perfectly OK with going into the night with marcrell dead. It's not like his play mattered anyway. If the situation doesn't change, I'll hammer at midnight CEST. I don't like asking for claim in semi-open unless a fullclaim is coming as it's completely pointless so I won't bother with that. But I'm letting people with more towncred than me decided if they want one - now is your time.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

We should obviously wait for a claim.

[DarkLightA]

I'll hammer at midnight CEST. I don't like asking for claim in semi-open unless a fullclaim is coming as it's completely pointless so I won't bother with that.

Can we lynch this scum now please?

[DarkLightA]

We're waiting for a fucking claim. No LOLhammers.

What makes you think a claim is pointless? What do you define as a fullclaim vs a claim? What if, say, Marcrell is a cop and can provide investigative results? What's "completely pointless" about that?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

DLA, it's MD or Marcrell toDay.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

DLA, what's your read on Marcrell?

[Lucky2u]

I would be ok with Otolia as well, but I still prefer Marcell

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If Otolia (or anyone else) hammers Marcrell before a full claim the hammer should be treated as a scum-claim and that person will be turbo lynched tomorrow.

[Lucky2u]

If Otolia (or anyone else) hammers Marcrell before a full claim the hammer should be treated as a scum-claim and that person will be turbo lynched tomorrow.

Seconded by the IC

[DarkLightA]

DLA, what's your read on Marcrell?

I haven't looked into him too much yet, unfortunately. I'm wouldn't be overly upset if he were lynched, but I'm a lot more confident in my Otalia-scum read.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You haven't looked into him but you wouldn't be upset if he were lynched.

You understand how that sounds, right?

[DarkLightA]

I have looked into him, but I was looking to do a full inspection of all three M-O players, as I mentioned a while back. I've read through his iso and his play as it's come along, but I wanted to inspect it thoroughly, which I haven't done. I think, previously, if not explicitly then implicitly I've stated that I'm suspicious of the M-O bracket, and hence I won't lose too much sleep over a lynch.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

OK, well, this full inspection is taking some time.

I suggest you hurry along.

[Otolia]

What makes you think a claim is pointless? What do you define as a fullclaim vs a claim? What if, say, Marcrell is a cop and can provide investigative results? What's "completely pointless" about that?

I thought he was scum ? But no matter, you're the scum here. That above is the proof.

[Lucky2u]

What makes you think a claim is pointless? What do you define as a fullclaim vs a claim? What if, say, Marcrell is a cop and can provide investigative results? What's "completely pointless" about that?

I thought he was scum ? But no matter, you're the scum here. That above is the proof.

Please hammer Otolia. It will make it so much easier to speed lynch you tomorrow