Trojan wrote: A thought I had today: if Jason is scum and Thor is town, Jason's push to lynch me makes no sense. Jason would know that his goose is cooked if Thor survives the day, so he'd push to lynch Thor. (And he wouldn't look scummy for doing so; as has been pointed out, Thor has made a safe claim that he can get away with.) So either Jason is town, or... oh, this BETTER not be the truth... Jason and Thor are BOTH scum. So I'm certainly not going to push against Jason now
Not if scum has a roleblocker and Jason wants to push "don't lynch PR claims" because he claimed bodyguard.
Pie wrote: Egg (in addition to what you said) appears to be voting him bc he doesn't like his reaction to jason's claim - he believes TH feels way too strongly it's false - and he thinks this despite supposedly not believing jason's claim himself is true. this is also conditional around jason being town, again while he doesn't appear to believe the claim. this is a part of why I'm getting bad gut pings from the way the wagons are right now.
My Day 1 reads don't account for associative tells. After Jason or Trojan flips, I'll re-evaluate. This is true for a handful of reads.
Pie wrote: the bolded isn't strictly true. if you fake claim hider as scum and clear a partner, and then get lynched yourself, the other isn't in any way an auto lynch. it's just a shitton of WIFOM regardless of how you attempt to look at it.
Just typed out my arguement against this and realized you're right. The reverse would still be true though. If one of Thor's "clears" flips scum, fingers are going to get pointed at Thor. And still, a hider can be so valuable that lynching someone who claims it Day 1 is a bad idea. Even if you think he's scum, why not let him get some results on the off chance you're wrong and sort him later? And if you are wrong, there's even the chance he dies at night and we don't have to use up a lynch. I'm realizing the more I think about it that hider would be a better fakeclaim than I thought. But that's still no reason to not get any benefit from a possible real hider.
Still to Pie, on my stance on sthar vs Trojan, you might be right. I may have been voting sthar longer than I thought Trojan was scum. I'm not sure. I think it's close. But I don't see how that is relevant to my current read on either unless you are suggesting that I'm scum with sthar which I'd be shocked if you were doing.
On Thor, still to Pie... it's a vibe I get. He seems to be arguing the way he always does. I don't know why, but I didn't feel that early in the game and I do now. Maybe his activity picked up and that's why? I really don't know. He just feels more like Thor now. Even before, the closest thing I ever had to a scum read on him was paranoia. You're acting like I was ready to vote him and that was never close to being true.
Trojan, why does your team think we have four scum in a 13p game?
Delta, if we have enough, I'd flash wagon Boon. Much more confident on him than Trojan.
