Twin Trap (Game Over) [TM2015]

BBmolla · Post Post #800 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:35 am

I'm gonna vote Serra too, can we just talk about shit for a bit though?

Who do you think partner would be if Serra is scum Mina?

Mina · Post Post #801 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:12 am

Talking is fine, although serra and BPC talking would be even better. Thanks to Mara's narcissistic antics, it looks like we'll be relying 100% on talking to solve the game.

Without reevaluating my town reads, BPC or ETL mostly because that's who I'd suspect if serra wasn't town. ETL probably fits better, just because of how serra parroted BPC's read on me and ETL's reasons for townreading him felt like BS. My team's town read on BPC has vanished, though.

Disappointed that was the one kill that didn't make Patrick confirmed town.

Mina · Post Post #802 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:13 am

*who I'd suspect if serra was town.

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #803 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:22 am

I'm not townreading serra.

serrapaladin · Post Post #804 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:23 am

I'll probably be replacing out since I barely have time to keep up with this game, let alone any of the other ones. Sorry everyone, and sorry for my lacklustre play.

I still feel pretty strongly that Mina is scum. I already mentioned that I didn't like the way she was presenting her team's reads - leaving her open to follow their reads to gain mislynches rather than trying to consolidate them with her own. Her posts reflect that in her team she was asking for individual comments to use, rather than discussing reads. She mentioned Zar's game, where I was more active than here, on average, but a fair reading of that and any of my other games would show that my activity oscillates wildly with my work schedule. She also has Regfan on her team, and if she had honestly been discussing my meta with her team rather than looking for points to use, I'm sure he'd have told her about Joss Whedon mafia where I lurked my way to lylo as an IC.

I really don't like how she has responded to me pointing out things I don't like about her play. I've already said that I really don't think my stance on her was as hedged as she portrayed it, and at another point she said that since her play as a whole looks town enough, my "small" points shouldn't be given any weight. Her posts towards me really have the feeling of gloating that she's "obvtown" enough that she can afford to be hypocritical in how she's dealing with me and still get me lynched. I hope that if you do mislynch my slot, her push on me will be scrutinised more than it is now.

As to her buddy, I'm less certain. I'd risk the game on ETL and Quil being town, but I'm unsure about the other 3. I've been going back and forth on BPC, but he doesn't make much sense as scum with Mina.

BBmolla · Post Post #805 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:26 am

why don't you think I'm town Serra

Mina · Post Post #806 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:36 am

Serra, if you're still around, has your team been weighing in at all on this game? Also, why didn't you post the night that you'd promised to catch up or the morning after, right before Alchemist was lynched?

She also has Regfan on her team, and if she had honestly been discussing my meta with her team rather than looking for points to use, I'm sure he'd have told her about Joss Whedon mafia
where I lurked my way to lylo as an IC.

...I'm probably not the right person to be confessing this to. Just saying.

*twitch*

BBmolla · Post Post #807 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:38 am

my team's comment on this game is basically that we're fucked

EspeciallyTheLies · Post Post #808 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:39 am

In post 807, BBmolla wrote:my team's comment on this game is basically that we're fucked

tell them to get their shit together. this is not their first rodeo.

BBmolla · Post Post #809 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:43 am

They're gonna look at it in a bit, they were mainly just commenting on tracker dying and how watcher is now useless.

Mina · Post Post #810 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:50 am

In post 806, Mina wrote:...I'm probably not the right person to be confessing this to. Just saying.

*twitch*

Never mind, someone corrected me that you mean the

other

kind of IC.

BBmolla · Post Post #811 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:34 pm

ms and shos both think Quil is scum

Quilford · Post Post #812 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:35 pm

Tell them they're dreaming.

I have laryngitis guys! Ain't that just swell

Quilford · Post Post #813 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:45 pm

The upside is that I basically have the week off to sit at home and do nothing, so I can unfuck my reads.

Mina · Post Post #814 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:52 pm

Molla, Zar wants reasoning from shos on the Quilford scum read. (I think because he trusts his judgment due to Hilariously Unbalanced Mafia.)

Quilford, re: this, do you believe ETL's explanation for where she put Patrick in her list was scummy? And can you explain why you were having niggles on Molla and Patrick (but not me) here?

BBmolla · Post Post #815 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:26 pm

Shos said quil unvoted to prevent frustration hammers and hammered later on the same page. also that we had 4 days left, and serra and BPC still hadn't posted catchup when he did so.

Quilford · Post Post #816 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:05 pm

In post 815, BBmolla wrote:Shos said quil unvoted to prevent frustration hammers and hammered later on the same page.

Yes. I wanted a response from ETL, she was threatening to hammer out of frustration, so I unvoted. Then she answered me, so I hammered (because Mina had voted in the meantime).

Quilford · Post Post #817 (ISO) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:08 pm

BB, does shos find Mina scummy?
Mina, I'll get to your questions in a bit

zoraster · Post Post #818 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:18 am

Day 1

JohnnyFarrar ( 1 )

Mina

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(L - 3 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 6 )

EspeciallyTheLies Patrick BBMolla JohnnyFarrar Quilford BipolarChemist

Total Votes ( 7 )

Needed to Lynch [ 4 ]

Deadline: April 26th at 20:00 EDT
(expired on 2015-04-26 20:00:00)

JohnnyFarrar replaces serrapaladin

Quilford · Post Post #819 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:00 am

In post 814, Mina wrote:Quilford, re: this, do you believe ETL's explanation for where she put Patrick in her list was scummy?

Sorry, I don't understand. What does #784 have to do with ETL's explanation for where she put Patrick in her list? (And what list is this again?)

In post 814, Mina wrote:And can you explain why you were having niggles on Molla and Patrick (but not me) here?

I was looking at my Alchemist wagonmates. I had already said that I really wasn't convinced by BBmolla's reasoning for voting Alchemist. And I was suspicious that Patrick had stopped explaining the reasons for his read on Alchemist, even as I found more things that looked scummy in Al's posting. Yes I know he's scum, but the 'case' he posted on me and the one Titus wrote on Molla are just terrible PBPA post summaries. The only thing he did was take a look at Al's meta. Like I said though, just niggles.

Patrick · Post Post #820 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:01 am

At the UK Scummers meet atm, so not really much time or desire to post until Friday.

Patrick · Post Post #821 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:21 am

Since I'm here right now though.

Quilford, I didn't see a great deal of benefit to making very obvious points about Alchemist given the gamestate. I looked at his meta, and nobody bothered to do the same as far as I could tell, and I mentioned that I didn't really buy Titus's comment on wanting to sheep Mara (also felt Alchemist might be trying to look protown by presenting it and then saying he wouldn't vote me without more rationale). Apart from that, any chump could yell about his posts and call them bad. Not that interesting, unless you think someone else is likely to be lynched instead

Quilford · Post Post #822 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:42 am

In post 821, Patrick wrote:Apart from that, any chump could yell about his posts and call them bad.

Yes, it wouldn't make them town though. I was just expecting perhaps a greater level of incisiveness from you. Considering you admitted that if you 'only had the second half of his iso he wouldn't be that suspicious', I thought that perhaps you would be looking for particularly substantive reasons by which to convince yourself to stay on the wagon.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #823 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:58 am

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Hello!

Just got my pms and I'm in class so y'all should say words at me. Currently reading instead of talking advantage of the fine tutelage my professor is providing.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #824 (ISO) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:03 am

Still at school so my catch up is gonna be slow and piecemeal. Nor that anyone's here to care right now :C

In post 31, Quilford wrote:VOTE: ETL

Being too knee-jerky

Oh no guys I'm way knee jerky I'm so dead

Anyways first five pages are about as useful as first give pages generally are.

Early thoughts include Mina seems like she's stretching, but whether that's scum trying too hard vs. town trying to end RVS remains to be seen.

BPC uses a lot of exclamation points and Quil is cutesy, and I want to look into their metas to see if these two things are as pronounced in their town games because psychology blah blah blah

Mara looked like she was trying to step on people's toes

I don't particularly like the way Espy switches from talking directly to people to talking in general at everyone here.

Not sure why Alch is getting votes for being useless, he's far from the only one and I don't see anything else really scummy

BB is either reaction testing or just no fun. Maybe both.

A couple people haven't posted yet -_-
... One of them is my slot -_-

To be continued ~