New York 180 (Endgame)

[ika]

goodmornign: kitz
ozgin: dragonspawn, Cheetory6
Cheetory6: Marquis

9 alive, 5 lynch

(expired on 2015-04-21 21:00:00)

[Kitz]

Why are you not mentioning the stuff about House and me, and why not quoting this? If you want to consider scumreading me on associations...

I'm voting Kitz because I'm unsure if Elusive's on you is some kind of bussing or what. If you don't want the focus on Kitz then that's where I think it should be atm.

[Ozgin]

I'm still waiting for Cheetory to see that I called his bullshit.

[Cheetory6]

So do you wanna go ahead and push that "Hurr durr he hammered when SW had the intent, hurr" card some more? Or are you actually going to fucking read the thread?

I admit I missed this.
Doesn't mean your hammer still only came after Silver said she'd also be willing to hammer.
I also don't really think a hammer on scum should clear you as being scum. Do you?

But seriously Cheetory, tell me why you're pushing a scumread on me based on a lie?

I suspect you a lot more for a shitty push on TSO than for whatever else you're trying to insinuate I'm pushing you for? Unless you're calling me saying your push on TSO is bad a lie. I'd love to hear how that works if so.
I've walked through like ten times why TSO as mafia is basically impossible at this point. You calling him a potential mafia just seems way too out there to be coming from town. Please tell me how mafiaTSO shot his scumbuddy pisskop on N1.
Or do you think someone else did that and is just biding their time to counter claim him?

[Cheetory6]

gm, what do you think of Ozgin?

post later, cheet still probscum

How are people townreading you? -.-

[Ozgin]

So do you wanna go ahead and push that "Hurr durr he hammered when SW had the intent, hurr" card some more? Or are you actually going to fucking read the thread?

I admit I missed this.
Doesn't mean your hammer still only came after Silver said she'd also be willing to hammer.
I also don't really think a hammer on scum should clear you as being scum. Do you?

But seriously Cheetory, tell me why you're pushing a scumread on me based on a lie?

I suspect you a lot more for a shitty push on TSO than for whatever else you're trying to insinuate I'm pushing you for? Unless you're calling me saying your push on TSO is bad a lie. I'd love to hear how that works if so.
I've walked through like ten times why TSO as mafia is basically impossible at this point. You calling him a potential mafia just seems way too out there to be coming from town. Please tell me how mafiaTSO shot his scumbuddy pisskop on N1.
Or do you think someone else did that and is just biding their time to counter claim him?

I hammered when SW said she was willing to because it didn't matter who hammered him at that point. I wanted to wait only because I wanted to be 100% sure that town wanted it, and since SW is my neighbor and I trust her (well, was and trusted), I hammered on her command because I knew she had the town's best interest in her mind.

But you're right, my hammer on Aero doesn't instantly clear me of being scum, but I don't think I've behaved in a particularly scummy way so I don't feel like I

need

to be "cleared" of anything.

It isn't impossible. It is in fact possible for someone to be biding their time to cc him, and maybe there is a Serial Killer in this game (that may not be TSO). But I don't understand pushing on me for "a shitty push on TSO" because I have yet still to ever once advocate a lynch on TSO. Yes, I have my share of doubts about him, but in a game with this much fucking bullshit everywhere,

I have a lot of fucking doubts about a lot of fucking people.

Even now I'm far from advocating a TSO lynch, I just am really curious about the current state of the game, and 0 night kills makes no sense to me.

Is that really your entire case on me? Or are you just looking for an excuse to come after me, almost as if you're trying to pull a lynch out of your ass? I've seen posts say, "Oh well House may have seemed scummy at one point, but Ozgin hasn't done anything to make me think he's scum so I'm gonna ISO him and try to scrape the bottom of the barrel to maybe look for a reason to start a wagon on him, hurr." I really don't understand that, and I really don't understand TSO's vote on me either.

Like seriously, I don't think I've done anything scummy, and yet I think there are some better reasons why certain other players (Cheet) may be better scumspects.

[Ozgin]

Sorry if I err on the side of belligerence, I'm in excruciating pain (I feel like my muscles in my arms are shredded into confetti) and so I'm mildly cranky.

[Cheetory6]

So me calling you out on a read that looks like it's forced/fake is scummy because it's overconfident/oversimplifying the situation in your eyes, but you blanketing a scumread on me because I was upset on D4 isn't a gross oversimplification of that entire situation?

I haven't said that I'm particularly confident that you're scum. I just think you're the best bet via PoE and bad feels about the way you're approaching this read on me and your read on TSO. Like seriously, I just don't understand at all how you could think that TSO is mafia of all things or more importantly think that's the most likely explanation for the current gamestate.

[Cheetory6]

What's your read on Marquis?

[goodmorning]

Why are you not mentioning the stuff about House and me, and why not quoting this? If you want to consider scumreading me on associations...

I'm voting Kitz because I'm unsure if Elusive's on you is some kind of bussing or what. If you don't want the focus on Kitz then that's where I think it should be atm.

What stuff about House and you?

I literally quoted that exact thing.

gm, what do you think of Ozgin?

I wouldn't cry if we lynched him.

[Shinobi]

post later, cheet still probscum

Still waiting for this to happen.

@GM: Okay I guess. I don't really think what you're saying is all too definitive though.

[Green Crayons]

I am out of town this week for work, and I thought I would have more free time than I actually have had.

Apologies.

[goodmorning]

@Shinobi: Well ok.

[Kitz]

What stuff about House and you?

You're antagonizing me by attempting to associate me with Piss because he voted me and saying "it's for no reason".
From what I see, in the game he played the "I scumread House", and because House said he couldn't read me then Piss voted on me because of that statement, and House was like "Why don't you vote me instead?"

If anything, you should look at House and his replacement Ozgin.

Meh, I can't read Kitz.

If we get close to deadline and need a lynch I'll hammer.

VOTE: Aeronaut

Looking over the wagon that built up on it, I actually do like most of the names voting for her (NJ, Grib, SW), so fine.

VOTE: Kitz

What makes you refer to a post 30 pages ago as your sole reason to vote? And why did it come right after the flashwagon on Kitz?

vote: Kitz

If I'm a scumread of yours, why aren't you voting me instead of the latest wagon that cropped up out of nowhere?

I'm voting Kitz because I'm unsure if Elusive's on you is some kind of bussing or what. If you don't want the focus on Kitz then that's where I think it should be atm.

Busted. I'm scum and Kitz is totally my buddy. Damn you and your meddling dog!

[Marquis]

after class

[dragonspawn]

I haven't seen anything that makes me want to change my vote. Nor anything to give me a better candidate right now.

[Shinobi]

I am out of town this week for work, and I thought I would have more free time than I actually have had.

Apologies.

So much stalling.

after class

I await your return with baited breath.

[dragonspawn]

Is everyone voting yet and if not why not?

[goodmorning]

I think House was telling 100% truth in 11 and 931.

Discuss.

[dragonspawn]

I think it's possible. Of you think house is scum are you voting for oz?

[Cheetory6]

Why would he do that though? :/

[goodmorning]

I think it's possible. Of you think house is scum are you voting for oz?

I don't think I'm voting for anyone at the moment, but yes, Ozgin is a vote I'd be pleased to make. I'm just waiting on a VC first. I don't think he's L-1 but it's nice to be sure.

Why would he do that though? :/

Because he was feeling a little bit cocky, why else?
It's perfectly in keeping with what I know of him.

[dragonspawn]

Why would he do that though? :/

because he can. What other reason would house need?

[Shinobi]

Marquis are you intending to post any time soon?

I'm not particularly a fan of this Ozgin push and I'm kind of waiting to see what you come up with as an alternative wagon.

[Marquis]

kind of been preoccupied with things lately but i really think cheetory is scum because vague meta, what at least felt like lurking throughout the shift onto the aeroscum wagon, etc etc