Paradise Lost - [Game Over]

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #450 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:52 am

In post 448, Katsuki wrote:Fortunately AA is a dude

I am not dude and not anywhere close to a dike. Although I wouldn't mind being dude(for other reasons) considering the freedom & pocket money my brother gets in home. If you choose to be jerk, I cant help it.

Equinox · Post Post #451 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:53 am

In post 447, ArcAngel9 wrote:How are you town reading RedCoyote? Is it meta or gut? or other reasons?

RedCoyote is still a neutral read. It takes me a while to get a read either way of him.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #452 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:54 am

In post 451, Equinox wrote:
In post 447, ArcAngel9 wrote:How are you town reading RedCoyote? Is it meta or gut? or other reasons?

RedCoyote is still a neutral read. It takes me a while to get a read either way of him.

RedCoyote expected me to play to this game but he isn't here.... I don't have an opinion him either.

Glass · Post Post #453 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:55 am

@Elbirn
I see you promoting the lufan wagon, but what do you think about the AA wagon?

Grapes wrote:
I found #225 interesting as well, though. Felt more like nitpicking than scum-hunting. But I'll let Glass respond to that himself.

I don't really have any response to Tere on that point. Someone else Tere knows does that as a scumtell, not much to respond to.

Tere wrote:
What would your thoughts be on a Glass or a massive wagon?

It's interesting that you group massive together with me (who you attempted to vote but instead just said my name). Do you have a scumread on massive as well?

@ABR
Since you said this:

ABR wrote:
I'm voting you because you're not even lifting a finger to gather more votes for who you supposedly think is scum. You don't care if you have more votes or not. That's what I find scummy. When I'm town, I'm negotiating, bargaining, threatening and goading people into voting who I want voted, early day or not. If I have to type out an extra post to get someone to my side, I'm happy to do it without question. I'll repeat my points if I have to if I think it will convince town to help vote out that person.

Why is lufan scum? Give me a reason and I might join the wagon.

Glass · Post Post #454 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:55 am

Ya, I'm having trouble reading a bunch of people in this game.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #455 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:59 am

In post 454, Glass wrote:Ya, I'm having trouble reading a bunch of people in this game.

who are they?
what do you think of my wagon?

lufan131 · Post Post #456 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:01 am

In post 453, Glass wrote:@Elbirn
I see you promoting the lufan wagon, but what do you think about the AA wagon?

Grapes wrote:
I found #225 interesting as well, though. Felt more like nitpicking than scum-hunting. But I'll let Glass respond to that himself.

I don't really have any response to Tere on that point. Someone else Tere knows does that as a scumtell, not much to respond to.

Tere wrote:
What would your thoughts be on a Glass or a massive wagon?

It's interesting that you group massive together with me (who you attempted to vote but instead just said my name). Do you have a scumread on massive as well?

@ABR
Since you said this:

ABR wrote:
I'm voting you because you're not even lifting a finger to gather more votes for who you supposedly think is scum. You don't care if you have more votes or not. That's what I find scummy. When I'm town, I'm negotiating, bargaining, threatening and goading people into voting who I want voted, early day or not. If I have to type out an extra post to get someone to my side, I'm happy to do it without question. I'll repeat my points if I have to if I think it will convince town to help vote out that person.

Why is lufan scum? Give me a reason and I might join the wagon.

I can answer why they think I'm scum... I was active and started lurking.

Katsuki · Post Post #457 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:03 am

In post 361, Tere wrote:Katsuki are you always this much of a troll?

I would say that I'm not. I'm an incredibly serious player with no patience for those who joke around.

It would probably be more productive to let others answer this question though.

farside22 · Post Post #458 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:07 am

In post 438, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 435, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 434, Albert B. Rampage wrote:If you feel that way with many people you meet, maybe the problem is you. Just brainstorming here.

No, it's an issue with people not reading my posts.

Just thinking out loud here, don't be offended, but maybe, just maybe, it's the way you're communicating?

P.edit: farside, when was our last game? You know me better than that.

open game you replaced in and it was werewolf vs mafia vs town and you and I discussed about why someone was scum in that game and I was right and you were wrong. There was very little you said there and in Zor's mini game where you just did little to nothing there as well.

In post 441, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 430, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 427, ArcAngel9 wrote:no. You called me scum for some reason and you said you have the same reason as farside to scum read me but farside read is different. What is so confusing in this?

I read you as scum at first because you were saying i was scum for scumreading your townread, which felt like a chainsaw.

Please show the post that I said you're scum. You're not my scum read. I want to know how are connecting this to me now...

In post 437, farside22 wrote:Everytime I read AA it is either how dare you scum read me or now a strawman arguement.
The trollish behavior by ABR rubs me as scum. He's been more useless as town lately so this trollish I'm being an ass behavior just comes off as I'm going to make you look bad and rub you wrong so you go ape shit.
I see nothing town about that ever.

I really don't get the scum read on lulu other then not posting much which I can probably point to 5 other players and call them useless too.

Wow, You haven't given me a valid reason to call me scum yet you state that albert is trolling? And what your buddy katusuki doing? And you choose to ignore how much he have trolled through this day without doing anything..

I hope you guys act little sensible than this. How can you say things and call someone scum when others are doing the same thing. How easily you can choose to ignore someone on your wish.

Kats seems to have an issue with you as a player. I assume this based on the first post made. Abr is give a bad reason to attack sukara's point.
plus meta, which I think you missed on purpose just to make yourself look like the victium.

Tere · Post Post #459 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:09 am

In post 428, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 426, Tere wrote:I want lufan to come back to the thread and start doing something if he's town. :/

Tere if not lufan, who else you think is scum?

I can't be bothered to reread right now, and I've already given an initial impression list, didn't you read my ISO? but right now my lists look like:

Definitely wouldn't lynch today:
Equinox
RedCoyote
laladucks
Sakura Hana

Probably wouldn't lynch today:
Farside
Muffin
Gaidenthing

Null:
the Bulge
Grapes
Elbirn - this read has shifted up from leaning scum for that floofy Grapes vote reason because I didn't think that wall war with Sakura looked that bad.

____________________________________________________ level of acceptable towniness

Special naughty spot because he won't STFU about AA even though I like his hedgehog:
Katsuki

lufan - could be newb, don't like that he sodded off
ABR - attack on Sakura felt chainsawy, weird defence of AA, tinfoil hat niggle reason
AA - not feeling the love, just overall tone I think
massive - a big bunch of meh in ISO as far as I can see
Glass - tinfoil hat reason re mollie replace less tinfoil hat for me, ISO has nothing in apart from defence so far, weird soft FOSy thing that I hated, has been back in but no response

Still inclined to consider voting no lynch, and if we do, that's the pool I'd want the Angel to do their thing.

P-edit. I see Glass has replied. Will look at that in a sec, pressing go!

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:10 am

In post 458, farside22 wrote:Kats seems to have an issue with you as a player. I assume this based on the first post made. Abr is give a bad reason to attack sukara's point.
plus meta, which I think you missed on purpose just to make yourself look like the victium.

Meta to scum read Albert or me?
And if Kats have an issue with me, he is playing against his win condition. How are you supporting this?

Tere · Post Post #461 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:10 am

In post 449, Tere wrote:
In post 431, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Sakura already associating me with lufan lulz

Tere/Sakura/lufan scumteam, yes?

Why am I scum apart from that I don't like you very much?

That makes me look like an asshat. I have nothing personal against ABR - I just mean in game

Katsuki · Post Post #462 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:11 am

We are not no-lynching today.

I still haven't had a chance to discuss optimal strat but I was planning on holding off until tomorrow so.

Also that hedgehog should bump me above that line Tere.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #463 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:13 am

In post 459, Tere wrote:
In post 428, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 426, Tere wrote:I want lufan to come back to the thread and start doing something if he's town. :/

Tere if not lufan, who else you think is scum?

I can't be bothered to reread right now, and I've already given an initial impression list, didn't you read my ISO? but right now my lists look like:

Definitely wouldn't lynch today:
Equinox
RedCoyote
laladucks
Sakura Hana

Probably wouldn't lynch today:
Farside
Muffin
Gaidenthing

Null:
the Bulge
Grapes
Elbirn - this read has shifted up from leaning scum for that floofy Grapes vote reason because I didn't think that wall war with Sakura looked that bad.

____________________________________________________ level of acceptable towniness

Special naughty spot because he won't STFU about AA even though I like his hedgehog:
Katsuki

lufan - could be newb, don't like that he sodded off
ABR - attack on Sakura felt chainsawy, weird defence of AA, tinfoil hat niggle reason
AA - not feeling the love, just overall tone I think
massive - a big bunch of meh in ISO as far as I can see
Glass - tinfoil hat reason re mollie replace less tinfoil hat for me, ISO has nothing in apart from defence so far, weird soft FOSy thing that I hated, has been back in but no response

Still inclined to consider voting no lynch, and if we do, that's the pool I'd want the Angel to do their thing.

P-edit. I see Glass has replied. Will look at that in a sec, pressing go!

If I am understanding this currently, you're not interested in lynching lufan. nolynch is not an option. If we must lynch, pick two players who you would be happy to lynch.

Katsuki · Post Post #464 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:13 am

In post 458, farside22 wrote:
Kats seems to have an issue with you as a player. I assume this based on the first post made. Abr is give a bad reason to attack sukara's point.
plus meta, which I think you missed on purpose just to make yourself look like the victium.

First post was because I disliked AA's posting the most out of the RVS posts at the time in point which I posted.

His play since then has been objectively scummy and that's why my vote has not moved thus far, nor will it be moving for the rest of the game until he is dead.

Katsuki · Post Post #465 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:14 am

In post 461, Tere wrote:
In post 449, Tere wrote:
In post 431, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Sakura already associating me with lufan lulz

Tere/Sakura/lufan scumteam, yes?

Why am I scum apart from that I don't like you very much?

That makes me look like an asshat. I have nothing personal against ABR - I just mean in game

You're allowed to be mean to Albert, let it worry you not.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #466 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:17 am

As I mentioned before, I am going to ignore KAT for rest of this game. He is not being unethical but also rude with me for no reason. I am not going to argue with him over anything else. Considering he is only 15 years old, I don't think his mind would remotely understand what I was trying to say. I hope he learn to respect people soon when grew up a bit.

Tere · Post Post #467 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:20 am

Er no, that's not what that says at all. Lufan's in my could lynch pool.

p-edit you people! That's to AA.

I am a bit underwhelmed by Glass's response although TY for picking up that my vote hadn't stuck. Ya I think massive's a bit scummy.

@Equinox - if I was up at the 15 min deadline it's a toss up for where I'd stick my vote between ABR and Glass, but ABR looks worse to me in thread.

so Glass can be off the hook for now. But not out of my eye.

Vote: ABR

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #468 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:22 am

VOTE: massive

Tere - I don't think ABR is scum. do you really think scum would come defend and make posts like he did?

Tere · Post Post #469 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:22 am

In case it's not obvious, my town - scum ranking isn't in strict order. More staring at names and gut.

p-edit @ AA I've not read many of ABR's games but I am confident from what I've seen he could play aggro scum quite easily!

Tere · Post Post #470 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:23 am

In post 462, Katsuki wrote:We are not no-lynching today.

I still haven't had a chance to discuss optimal strat but I was planning on holding off until tomorrow so.

Also that hedgehog should bump me above that line Tere.

No, even with the hedgehog you don't get above the line until you stop misbehaving.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #471 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:38 am

In post 469, Tere wrote:In case it's not obvious, my town - scum ranking isn't in strict order. More staring at names and gut.

p-edit @ AA I've not read many of ABR's games but I am confident from what I've seen he could play aggro scum quite easily!

can you show me a reference?

Tere · Post Post #472 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:41 am

Nope, it's all in ongoing games, you will have to look up his meta for yourself.

Katsuki · Post Post #473 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:47 am

In post 467, Tere wrote:Er no, that's not what that says at all. Lufan's in my could lynch pool.

p-edit you people! That's to AA.

I am a bit underwhelmed by Glass's response although TY for picking up that my vote hadn't stuck. Ya I think massive's a bit scummy.

@Equinox - if I was up at the 15 min deadline it's a toss up for where I'd stick my vote between ABR and Glass, but ABR looks worse to me in thread.

so Glass can be off the hook for now. But not out of my eye.

Vote: ABR

ABR is a pretty bad vote at this point. I mean, he's pretty useless in all his games, but I would not be down with his lynch until we get some flips.

You may have read his past games but I actually know him so trust me on that.

p.s. I vehemently disagree that I am misbehaving.

Tere · Post Post #474 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:56 am

I was about to threaten to spank you and not in a good way but if you really are 15 that would be grossly inappropriate!